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Thursday, August 05, 2010

Should homosexuals be worried about Ford?

Toronto Mayoral candidate Rob Ford is facing a controversy over supposedly homophobic comments. But should gays really be worried?

The case against Mr. Ford is based on his support of an anti-gay marriage pastor and a comment that he made in 2006. Neither of these adequately proves that Mr. Ford is a homophobic.

This is what he said about gay marriage according to the Globe & Mail:

“I support traditional marriage. I always have,” Mr. Ford added. “But if people want to, to each their own. I’m not worried about what people do in their private life. I look out for taxpayers’ money.”

This is exactly what libertarians would want to hear from someone who is socially conservative. His personal views are one thing but this statement suggests that he will not use the state to enforce his personal views. Mr. Ford is rather light on policy declarations but I doubt that he will have any policies that discourage gay marriage. In fact I doubt that there would be anything that the mayor of Toronto could do even if he wanted to eliminate gay marriage.

This is the quote from 2006:

“If you are not doing needles and you are not gay, you wouldn’t get AIDS probably.”

This isn’t so much homophobic as it is true. It is like saying a black person is more at risk for vitamin D deficiency. It isn’t prejudice it is a medical fact. Homosexuals and people who share needles are more likely to get AIDS. Mr. Ford’s opponents will have to do better than that to demonstrate that he would make Toronto less “gay friendly.”

I am undecided on Rob Ford. He is being touted as the conservative candidate but his lack of policy commitment beyond a generic ‘cut spending’ is worrisome. Still, I see no evidence that Mr. Ford presents a threat to the gay community.

Posted by Hugh MacIntyre on August 5, 2010 in Municipal Politics | Permalink

Comments

There is no limit to the depth to which the radical left will stoop to tar those they do not like, and you can always count on the MSM to assist them. The standard M.O. is to take comments out of context, to add to and even invent comments which were never made in order to manufacture a crisis.

Posted by: Alain | 2010-08-05 11:35:51 AM


The simple fact that Fords wants to get elected indicates gays are not threatened. Like all politicians, his ideals will take a back seat to his need to get elected/re elected.

Posted by: TM | 2010-08-05 12:00:53 PM


This isn’t so much homophobic as it is true.
Posted by Hugh MacIntyre on August 5, 2010

What's wrong with being homophobic ?. If the political correctness factor is removed a homophobe is simply a honest person that stands behind his principles.

Posted by: peterj | 2010-08-05 10:16:49 PM


peterj, I agree with you. By accepting the term homophobe I think we should create a list of phobes. Let's start with:

Christianphobe
Malephobe
Whitemalephobe
Globalwarmingskepticphobe

The same people who would take you to court for being a phobe they don't like, will resentfully hurl insults or hate at others. Ironically, some of those recipients of their insults and hate would fight for their right to say it.

Posted by: TM | 2010-08-06 10:15:13 AM


List of phobias and their meanings: H
List of phobias and their meanings
Hadephobia - Fear of hell.
Hagiophobia - Fear of saints or holy things.
Hamartophobia - Fear of sinning.
Haphephobia - Fear of being touched.
Haptephobia - Fear of being touched.
Harpaxophobia - Fear of being robbed.
Hedonophobia - Fear of feeling pleasure.
Heliophobia - Fear of the sun.
Hellenologophobia - Fear of Greek terms or complex scientific terminology.
Helminthophobia - Fear of being infested with worms.
Hemaphobia - Fear of blood.
Hematophobia - Fear of blood.
Hemophobia - Fear of blood.
Hereiophobia - Fear of challenges to official doctrine or of radical deviation.
Heresyphobia - Fear of challenges to official doctrine or radical deviation.
Herpetophobia - Fear of reptiles or creepy, crawly things.
Heterophobia - Fear of the opposite sex.
Hierophobia - Fear of priest or sacred things.
Hippophobia - Fear of horses.
Hippopotomonstrosesquippedaliophobia - Fear of long words.
Hobophobia - Fear of bums or beggars.
Hodophobia - Fear of road travel.
Homichlophobia - Fear of fog.
Homilophobia - Fear of sermons.
Hominophobia - Fear of men.
Homophobia - Fear of sameness, monotony or of homosexuality or of becoming homosexual.
Hoplophobia * Fear of firearms.
Hormephobia - Fear of shock.
Hydrargyophobia - Fear of mercuial medicines.
Hydrophobia - Fear of water of of rabies.
Hydrophobophobia - Fear or rabies.
Hyelophobia - Fear of glass.
Hygrophobia - Fear of liquids, dampness, or moisture.
Hylephobia - Fear of materialism or the fear of epilepsy.
Hylophobia

Between A and Z this is only a list under H.

All these phobias affect only a small percentage of people in each catagory. The difference is that they do not want the mainstream public to accept their condition as normal. And they are not "loud and proud" (of what ?) And they do not want the rest of society to adapt to what they consider a normal way of life. (Marriage).

Posted by: peterj | 2010-08-06 11:37:07 AM


Peterj, you asked what is wrong with being "homophobic" and I agree with you and TM. As both of you probably know however, what is wrong is that people are not homophobic. Rejecting something has nothing in common with fearing it. The majority of people I know reject homosexuality as a personal choice but neither fear it nor those who practise it. Furthermore whoever coined the word homophobic had little understanding, since it actually indicates fear of same and same is not limited to sexual activity.

Posted by: Alain | 2010-08-06 12:08:30 PM


Furthermore whoever coined the word homophobic had little understanding, since it actually indicates fear of same and same is not limited to sexual activity.
Posted by: Alain | 2010-08-06 12:08:30 PM

I agree completely. If it related to civil unions rather than marriage I doubt if ther would be the controversy we have today. It is much closer to anger than fear.

Posted by: peterj | 2010-08-06 2:45:07 PM


Indeed and the anger is due to a small radical group determined to impose their agenda on everyone with an in-your-face approach. I find it no different from some religious zealots trying to do the same. Most of us believe in and practise live and let live, but the radicals of all stripes and colours do not.

Posted by: Alain | 2010-08-06 3:14:24 PM



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