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Friday, January 29, 2010

Hey America! Look at Your Future

Courtesy of your friends, across the pond, at the NHS:

The Government’s drugs rationing body, the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence (Nice), has provisionally said that it does not intend to recommend the use of the drug, called Tocilizumab, or Roactemra.

Nice claims that the £9,000 a year drug, for rheumatoid arthritis, has not proved that it is cost effective.

But patients in Scotland are to receive the treatment after it was recommended by the body which regulates drugs on the Scottish NHS, the Scottish Medicines Consortium (SMC).

The move will reopen accusations of medical ‘apartheid’ within Britain.

It follows an outcry after patients in Scotland were given access to expensive cancer drugs denied on the NHS in England and Wales.

Beyond even the darkest of satires. 

Posted by Richard Anderson on January 29, 2010 | Permalink

Comments

Remember when Obama said Granny doesn't need a new hip, just a pill?

Yeppers.

Posted by: Floyd Looney | 2010-01-29 8:30:13 AM


"Beyond even the darkest of satires."

Posted by PUBLIUS on January 29, 2010 | Permalink

Nothing new here. Pretty well every drug coming on stream is a "wannabe" drug that already has a generic version and is no more effective than the generic.

If we want to talk "Darkly", let me put this in front of you.

There will never be a cure for Cancer as it would destroy the trillion dollar anti cancer industry and decimate the stock market. Big Pharma is not looking for a cure and never will. What they are looking for is perhaps 3 pills a day to keep cancer in check. There is limited profit in a cure and no profit once the disease is eliminated.
3 or 4 hundred dollars a day to keep the disease in check....now that is real profit.

How is that for "dark satire"??.

Posted by: peterj | 2010-01-29 11:29:57 PM


You are 100% correct Peterj. Under our current system, there will never be a cure for cancer, or an end to war, or a solution for poverty and starvation. There is way to much profit in the human misery department. Its sad that we all recognize this, and support it.

Posted by: Steve Bottrell | 2010-01-31 1:38:45 PM


Meanwhile in Socialist Obamaland, noone is bothering to look for a cure for cancer because the Pharmaceutical Industry is EVIL!

Posted by: Don | 2010-01-31 10:19:01 PM


"Meanwhile in Socialist Obamaland, noone is bothering to look for a cure for cancer because the Pharmaceutical Industry is EVIL!"

Posted by: Don | 2010-01-31 10:19:01 PM

Not sure evil is the same as greedy. Big Pharma has only one purpose, and that is to make money. Cures for anything is a dead end road. Any cures will come from small , private endevours and big Pharma will do anything to shut them down or buy them out. About 60 years ago there was a true effort to find a cure for cancer and other dieases with some success (polio). Then it was all privatized and the direction changed from cure to profit motivation. Life span has increased by disease maintenance and extension. Nothing will change until the profit motivation is replaced with the actual willingness to forego the potential profits and find a cure. This will never happen as long as all big Pharma is on the stock exchange. Greed rules and the Holy Grail is still life extension. The longer you live the more pills they can pump into you and the better it is for the shareholders. This is also capitalizm at its finest. If you have shares in big Pharma you will appreciate this. If you are dying of Cancer you can appreciate the irony.

Posted by: peterj | 2010-01-31 11:39:33 PM


peterj,

A few things.

1. If an entrepreneur really had found a cure for cancer, he would not simply sell it to Big Pharma no matter what the price. Entrepreneurs don't think that way.

2. Innovation is being stifled by the massive costs and bureaucracy associated with bringing a drug to market.

3. There's nothing wrong with the profit motive. It's the only way to encourage entrepreneurs to take the risk associated with drug development.

Posted by: Charles | 2010-02-01 6:17:45 AM


Charles, I think you understand the difference between profit and greed. People commenting are referring to greed.

I still wonder why the present American administration does not focus on adopting the metric system instead of pushing socialised health care. I believe it is the only country left not using the metric system, which represents a problem in the international market place.

Posted by: Alain | 2010-02-01 6:38:08 PM


Charles, correct.

Greed and profit are indeed different. However, it doesn't matter at all whether someone is greedy or not in someone elses opinion, if they deliver a need to the market place.

peterj, the one purpose that big Pharma has, is all they need to ahve and the best thing they can have. Anything else is political and that is the real problom in the end. The unholy alliance with government. Eliminate this and prices will go down, innovation and wealth for all will go up, and the world will be a better place.

Posted by: TM | 2010-02-01 8:47:48 PM



"The unholy alliance with government. Eliminate this and prices will go down, innovation and wealth for all will go up, and the world will be a better place."


Posted by: TM | 2010-02-01 8:47:48 PM

On this one I would have to disagree. I believe the only way cancer would ever be conquered is by government, with big Pharma out of the picture completely.
With government there is no profit motive and they would stand to save billions of dollars a year if they could eliminate this disease. No stock exchange and no shareholders. Hire the best and brightest with the understanding that once they find a cure for this disease they will not be out of a job. The next project will be some other disease and a million dollar bonus to the team that finds the cure. The "team" is everyone in that dept.

Of course this will never happen as big Pharma is one of the most powerful lobbies in the world and no government has the guts to stand up to them.

Posted by: peterj | 2010-02-04 11:01:37 PM



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