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Monday, December 21, 2009
ASIRT investigation results in charges against RCMP officer
An RCMP member has been charged with assault causing bodily harm and obstruction of justice as the result of a September 13 incident in the Lac La Biche RCMP detachment cell area where a man was injured while in custody.
RCMP Constable Desmond Sandboe, an eight-year member of the RCMP, was charged on December 18. The charges were laid following an independent investigation into the incident by the Alberta Serious Incident Response Team (ASIRT). After reviewing the investigative report, Clifton Purvis, director of ASIRT, determined that charges against the officer were warranted.
Sandboe has been released on a Promise-To-Appear with conditions not to contact the complainant in this incident. He is scheduled to appear in Lac La Biche court on January 25, 2010.
According to a media statement from ASIRT, RCMP provided complete cooperation to investigators.
ASIRT is a provincially funded unit lead by a civilian director. It is mandated to effectively, independently and objectively investigate incidents involving Alberta’s police that have resulted in serious injury or death to any person as well as sensitive allegations of police misconduct.
Posted by Matthew Johnston
Posted by westernstandard on December 21, 2009 | Permalink
Comments
Such a pity. I hope he was beating a druggie for his sins.
Posted by: Zebulon Pike | 2009-12-21 3:18:52 PM
shoulda got monty robinsons lawyer the dumb shmuk!!
Posted by: marvin ballantyne | 2009-12-22 5:04:31 PM
Talk about undeserved respect" a member of the RCMP" how about calling a criminal thug what we know he is.
It is easy for MJ to be subjective , he uses words like terrorist all the time why be so easyon what clearly is a pig?
Posted by: Subjective | 2009-12-22 7:59:58 PM
First of all, being a lawyer, I can´t help but to post a comment about this case. People have no idea how difficult is to be a cop, the stress, the life risks, the lack of respect, the crap they have to put up from criminals and society… I can only imagine that a good officer is also a man with feelings and flaws. Although the information is public record, in my opinion, it should never be posted on the news before the judgment day.
The paper states his name but not the name of the “victim” also only talks about his charges, unfortunately does not explain the circumstances or who is that man assaulted or why he was arrested. So my question is: Can a RCMP officer be public attacked by the media? I don´t agree with police brutality but in real life sometimes it is required. So my concern is about justice for all the police officers that protect us everyday!
How can this be? It is possible that force was really required? It is possible that the “man assaulted” is lying? There was really obstruction of justice and why? It is possible that the ASIRT, the agency that investigates all incidents in Alberta, only wants to show work and look good? It is possible that the ASIRT is twisting the case to get free publicity? It is possible that this cop is too hardworking and too honest that he made powerful enemies? Basically, nobody knows the real facts. So, why his name and reputation are on the spotlight? Why the information on the news was available before the judgment? How about for once, we put on the officer´shoes and try to understand his invasion of privacy, his lack of security and the pressure he is suffering?
Posted by: Andrea | 2009-12-23 6:31:21 PM
@Andrea
You are a liar not a lawyer
Anyone that says police brutality is somtimes justified needs go to kill themselves because they are of no friend to human rights, or a civil society
If you are a lawyer, you could never be a defense lawyer with bias like you have? You are what builds confidence in prosecutors by subconsciously not wanting to do your profession properly, which is to defend your client without compassion for his assailant. If you were an actual lawyer you would no one has nothing to do with another.
You must be a contract lawyer because no defense lawyer would ever utter all what you did regarding this particulal defendant.
Cops have it tough? Ya it must be tough to justify doing almost nothing day in and day out. It must be stressful having everyone hate you because as a pig you created an us against them society in order to secure their jobs.
It must be tough ganging up and shit kicking handcuffed people on a constantly ongoing basis.
It must be tough to ignore crime and purposely act inefficiently so as to request more for funds for man power.
it must be tough to constantly lie and scapegoat everybody and everything in order to increase the size of their on the tit, unionized army.
If this asshole got investigated he had to do something terrible because cops are corrupt and will always obstruct and protect their own first. If they couldnt it was because this mad with power jerkoff went too far over the line, and therefore sustaining the lie which was tried intially was impossible.
You could never be a lawyer Andrea, you are far too biased and subjuective, regardless of your penMANship.
You think and write more like a pig than a defender of human rights. That cop should club your head, for something that is unwarranted to you, but justified to him, so you can understand reality and not the party line about how tough, fat and lazy cops have it.
Posted by: The C word | 2009-12-23 8:38:10 PM
I trust this Mountie will be found innocent. The "victim" was a rowdy drunk who no doubt got an ass kicking he rightly deserved, if he was roughed up at all. Some posters here are clueless, and I hope they don't ever have to ask for police assistance, as it appears they have so little respect for those who are our last line of defense.
Posted by: Markalta | 2009-12-30 1:20:25 AM
as it appears they have so little respect for those who are our last line of defense.
~Markalta
Police are our last line of defence because they have done their utmost to make us defenceless.
It is deplorable that it is so and an outrage that their average response time is in excess of 20 minutes.
It is a fact that the police exist to protect the government and not the governed.
When the police track down a violent perpetrator who has harmed one of the governed, it is to establish the government's right to continue governing by showing that agents of the government must have a monopoly on the exercise of violence.
The police are our first line of defencelessness.
Few police, when it comes to our attention that they have abused their police powers or exercised excessive force, are ever held accountable regardless of the circumstances.
This probably won't be one of those circumstances.
Posted by: Speller | 2009-12-30 3:51:55 AM
I've seen the lowlife scum they have to deal with daily. Maybe you are misplacing the blame. If there wasn't so much frigging paperwork to keep them busy, response times might be better.
Posted by: Markalta | 2009-12-30 5:51:02 AM
"I've seen the lowlife scum they have to deal with daily. Maybe you are misplacing the blame. If there wasn't so much frigging paperwork to keep them busy, response times might be better. "
Posted by: Markalta | 2009-12-30 5:51:02 AM
Only someone capable of being a pig would ever suggest that beating the civilian population can be justified, and should be up to the discretion of a peace officer.
You should move to Iran Markalta because you are an enemy to democracy and to a civilian population which prides itself on fair and reasonable treatment.
markalta you accuse others of being clueless and yet you are willing to exchange liberty for protection, you deserve neither, and a good repeated clubbing to your thick skull will make you see the light.
Posted by: Canada is full of would be could be NAZI's | 2009-12-30 7:08:37 AM
It is hard to believe that in the information age, misinformation is still what is most prevelant in our society.
There is a common theme at this blog and in the community that peace officers have it very tough, and because of this fallacy, choices regarding brute force should be entirely at their own discretion.
Thinking like this comes from some where. subjective media, tv programming, agenda driven clergy for purposes all their own portray everything as good and bad, right and wrong, safe and unsafe, moral and immoral, and care little about the social consequences of looking at everything in black and white.
The consequences are that we now have a society whose perception is damaged, and whatever they are told is what they believe, largely due to preprogrammed fear.
How often does anyone see the police having a difficult time with their job?(please no hair spliiting retarded responses) The majotity of the time police cars are empty. When is the last time you saw the police running after someone, in a shootout,or hand to hand combat, almost never and for most people this is something they never witness. How is responding to something too late difficult? Mostly if people have anything to do with police it is if they are getting a speeeding ticket, does this qualify as a demanding part of the job?
When you apply to be a peace officer you are aware of the risks and job description usually beofre hand, so it is not like they are thrown into a reality that they were unprepared for. To compensate we pay them well, THEY make their day unbelievably easy,and they get twice the days off we do. At the same time they conspire like any unionized army in how to enlarge the size of their union, so they engage in fabricated hyperbole regarding how hard done by they have are, how violent the streets are, etc. Many decades of repeating these lies has caused it seems wide spread and unquestinable loyalty by media, and television writers, which has then filtered down and is impregnated it fallicious lie into pea brains like Markaltavista and many, many others.
Conjecture, subjectiveness, denial and much else has lead to a culture who doesn't care about the truth, what could be worse for humanity than billions of brains looking to a few, so as to know how to proceed?
If the the cops can club at their own discretion where does that leave you, in a us against them world, where most of us are not on the handle side?
Posted by: How did we get here | 2009-12-30 8:37:33 AM
"People have no idea how difficult is to be a cop, the stress, the life risks, the lack of respect, the crap they have to put up from criminals and society"
Posted by: Andrea | 2009-12-23 6:31:21 PM
Isn't it "alleged criminal" supposed lawyer Andrea?
According to Andrea we should feel sorry and allow them to beat us at will, even though the lack of respect in which Andrea believes they feel was created by them and their revenue generating police force. This lack of respect will continue as long as they are going to fabricate misconceptions about the civilian population and seek more revenue to build their army, which in turn works against us, not for us.
Many of us work in a dangerous environments and have life risks as well, should we be able to club someone every now and again according to Andrea logic? What is the benchmark for what amount of risk qualifies you to be a tryannical bully mostly free of impunity?
Andrea needs to remove her head from her rear, because with it up their she will continue to be the most incompetent lawyer the bar has ever allowed.
Posted by: ITT school of criminal justice is the devil incarnate | 2009-12-30 9:22:09 AM
canada at 7:08:37 is apparently one of those low life scum I mentioned. This is what happens when the Western Standard turns into a druggie supporting piece of crap...what a waste.
Posted by: Markalta | 2009-12-30 2:49:13 PM
"canada at 7:08:37 is apparently one of those low life scum I mentioned. This is what happens when the Western Standard turns into a druggie supporting piece of crap...what a waste."
Posted by: Markalta | 2009-12-30 2:49:13 PM
How could you be correct about this assumption when all you others are wrong Mark who is the worlds Mark?
If I am a druggie as you so eloquently scapegoat me in your marginalizing mind, what is you lame excuse for not even being able to conceive an idea, or string a few sentences together so as zing me back?
I will help you, it is because your mind even without altering substances is destroyed beyond a concept.
All my hero's are in jail and all of your should be.
Posted by: Dumbfounded | 2009-12-30 3:44:43 PM
I wish a Happy New Year to all the law enforcement officials around the world. May you continue to safely catch more drug dealers and put them in jail in 2010. In the eyes of the majority, you are valiant heroes putting your lives on the line to keep us safe from these tragic figures.
Posted by: Zebulon Pike | 2009-12-30 4:43:52 PM
I wish a Happy New Year to all the law enforcement officials around the world.
If half of the police in western nations became honest men today, they would arrest the other half by tomorrow if they had any interest in enforcing the law instead of simply losing heart and quitting because of the difficulty of the task.
Posted by: Speller | 2009-12-30 5:17:47 PM
Too bad Zebulon douche doesn't realize that the cops jeopardize their own lives by giving desperate people little choice more often than not, and the stats regarding DC's are largely due to bad judgement where they put themselves into a position of undue risk.
Stats regarding drug dealers of all types and dead cops is almost non exisitent, only when the truth is stretched to support law enforcement accounts is a fallacy argument created which makes it appear that drugs somehow played a role. The news media does this daily and they are the slimiest of journalists because of how they portray the "guilt by association" false dilemma, or confusing cause and affect, fallacy arguments.
Drug crimes other than marijuana almost amount to nothing in Canada but the unionized police forces make it appear that it is exactly the opposite with hyperbole and a constant smear campaign aimed squarely at stupid douche bags like Zebulon Stumer. Time to get a clue douche bag!
I canot discout the credit they have had just look at how well misinformed most people are.
Posted by: Conjecture | 2009-12-30 5:25:34 PM
I suppose some law enforcement officers may become personally affected by their experiences with druggies. Their tragic situation as a result of drug abuse, including self-inflicted poverty, filth, the effect on children and families, and the debilitating health effects, would sink the heart of even the most valiant public servant. Nonetheless drugs must be fought. Every person whom they convince to abandon drugs for clean living is a victory for them and for society as a whole.
Posted by: Zebulon Pike | 2009-12-30 6:13:18 PM
"as a result of drug abuse, including self-inflicted poverty, filth, the effect on children and families, and the debilitating health effects, would sink the heart of even the most valiant public servant"
Posted by: Zebulon Pike | 2009-12-30 6:13:18 PM
other than the fallicious notion that valiant public servants exist, I agree with the rest of your quoted text.
If you had ever tried to fight a government department you would realize that they use provincial lawyers to beat you out of your rights afforded through acient natural law which the foundation which our justice system is built on. There is no such thing as a valiant public servant because when push comes to shove you cannot win, govt will obstruct and manipulate the system at every avaialable possibility, and the experience will feel like you are fighting big oil, than a servant of yours.
Never the less I encourage everybody to study legislation and regulation about something you feel is an infringement on your rights, like legislation itself for instance, and fight a good fight, this and only this is the way to create change in corrupt goverment. I honestly feel that if everybody experienced what I have at the hands of government their would be at the very least, a peaceful revolution.
Posted by: I am not chicken..mostly because I am vegan | 2009-12-30 7:12:12 PM
You know, its crime this, and crime that, and lets label people as scumbags because they don't look like me, or act like me, or have the same opportunities in life like me. ME, ME, ME, ME. What is the underlying problem? Are people criminals the minute they pop out of their mothers? No. Our society creates them, the monetary system creates them. Our system of haves and have nots creates them. Its easy to say "Well these people should just obey. They should pull them selves up by their bootstraps". How about putting your self in their boots before you utter such crap. Look, the police should not be above the law. If I would have been charged for the same crime, so should they. Its that simple.
Posted by: Steve Bottrell | 2009-12-30 8:27:12 PM
"...all my hero's are in jail.."
all your heros are belong to us
Posted by: 419 | 2009-12-30 9:28:24 PM
"all your heros are belong to us" <<
Posted by: 419 | 2009-12-30 9:28:24 PM
419 says it all, its like the one missing chromozone in a human being whichs makes you what, when the rest of us are 420 ? Think hard corky
Posted by: SHAC7 | 2009-12-30 10:43:05 PM
SHAC7 is a super person..
Posted by: 419 | 2009-12-30 10:57:35 PM
SHAC7 is a super person..
Posted by: 419 | 2009-12-30 10:57:35 PM
How can I attack that logic, even if it is insincere?
Posted by: veganshirt.com | 2009-12-30 11:17:38 PM
I see 419/mathews is back, just can't stay away addict?
Posted by: DrGreenthumb | 2009-12-31 12:38:08 AM
Dumb stated: "If I am a druggie as you so eloquently scapegoat me..."
Actually if you could get someone to read for you, I never called anyone a druggie. I said the following:
"when the Western Standard turns into a druggie supporting piece of crap...what a waste.", referring, as anyone who has half a clue would know, to the Libertarian WS support of Marc Emery and his drug problem.
Best of luck on that remedial reading class DUMB!
Posted by: Markalta | 2010-01-01 12:56:22 PM
Best of luck on that remedial reading class DUMB!
Posted by: Markalta | 2010-01-01 12:56:22 PM
Are you calling me mute by way of a slur, retard of little response?
Posted by: Vegan | 2010-01-01 1:19:07 PM
Well this Constable had a "good" posting here in Whitecourt, and was the biggest dope smoking whore ever! He used to get off on being rough with drunks and trust me (I was a bouncer here) he used excessive force more often than not! He got in a fight one night while off duty and when we pulled him off the guy he had the nerve to push us and ask "DON'T YOU KNOW WHO I AM????" It's about time someone stoped Des from thinking he could beat the shit of whoever he wanted because he is a cop. It's officers like him who give the rest of the level headed ones a bad name!
Posted by: Whitecourtian | 2010-01-13 7:44:35 PM
I, am so pleased the Alberta people favor the RCMP. We, people in BC, are praying the RCMP do not get their contract renewed. We can send them to Alberta. Stress, goes with the territory of being a police officer, if, they can't handle stress, that officer is in the wrong career, and should leave the force. I, am a senior citizen accused of assaulting a 6ft2, 250lb body builder, I am a 5ft3, senior citizen. My abuse by the RCMP, is on a web site, that collects, stories of, abusive RCMP. That site is called, The Crazy, Corrupt, Moronic Police. The, RCMP, are a disgrace to the people of Canada. Citizens in BC, no longer want the RCMP, as an icon of Canada. Read my story and convince me the RCMP is worth the powder to blow them to hell in a hand bag
Posted by: Ginger | 2010-01-23 6:33:45 PM
Guess there is finally no one to protect your sorry ass. The last two times you got it for fighting at the wedding and in the bar, the one you called "dad" can't protect you anymore and who transfered you out. I don't feel a bit sorry for you. You hurt alot of people here. Now its time you paid the piper like the rest of us.
Posted by: Former | 2010-01-30 3:30:28 PM
It was all about choices Des.
Posted by: Former | 2010-01-30 3:36:40 PM
Des has been disciplined twice before this incident and "dad" as he called him protected him. Why, because "dad" was another version of Des. "Dad" was one of the dirty cops that got away with it. He drank Scotch at the detachment and slept with many of the Citizens on Patrol(married women). He ran around with the golf pros wife and stalked the golf course. But when one wouldn't sleep with him, this one was kicked out of the program and chaised in the community by way of "dads" manipulation because she threatened to tell. She was fed to the wolves. Now where is this dirty cop? Retired! Never to be charged for the crocked things he did to the people in our little town. There was only one good cop and he moved. Got the hell out of dodge. He was the one that cared about the kids and teenagers, who truly cared about our town.The other good cop was murdered by a criminal in Mayerthorpe. So Des was trained by "dad" so of course he went wrong because the leaf doesn't fall from the tree.
Posted by: Former | 2010-01-30 7:31:47 PM
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