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Monday, September 28, 2009

Marc Emery turns himself in to be extradited

Ca.reuters.com

Today marks a horrible day for those of us who have worked with, become friends with, appreciated, and looked up to a Canadian hero for individual liberty. Marc Emery, often called the "Prince of Pot," presented himself to the authorities in order to be extradited to the U.S. to face five years in prison for selling marijuana seeds in the mail to Americans.

Marc Emery was a columnist with the Western Standard, and a personal friend to all of us on the editorial board. It is shattering to see pictures of him in newspapers, surrounded by friends and fans, knowing that he's about to spend many years in a prison for a fake "crime." And it is a fake crime.

William Hopper penned a wonderful story for the Western Standard about Emery's extradition back in January of last year entitled "Seeding Sovereignty." And we've debated Emery's activities here on the Shotgun blog many, many, many times.

Instead of recapitulating a lot of the arguments that I've made in the past, I thought I'd post Freedom Party International's press statement. Marc Emery was one of the founders of the Freedom Party (which is not the same as Freedom Party International), and has had a long association with that political party. Here is the statement they issued today:

On behalf of Freedom Party International (FPI), spokespersons Paul McKeever and Robert Metz issued the following statement:

FPI is today calling upon the Canadian and U.S. governments to discard plans to extradite and imprison Canadian citizen Marc Emery.

For his entire adult life, Marc Emery has been a vocal and animated advocate of individual freedom. He has campaigned on a very wide range of issues concerning individual liberty and property rights. He has successfully campaigned to save the taxpayer millions of dollars that would otherwise have been wasted on white elephants; he has challenged the abuses inflicted by garbage collection unions upon the citizenry; he has opposed the now-repealed ban on Sunday Shopping in Ontario (he is the only man ever to have gone to jail for opening his store on Sunday contrary to the law); he has fought censorship, by importing and selling a rap music album by the rap group "The Two Live Crew", and by selling prohibited books in Canada concerning the history of marijuana prohibition. In the 1990s, he chose to focus his efforts on the prohibition of one peaceful activity that so clearly violates the liberty of every individual, and that has resulted in the criminalization and incarceration of millions of people: the manufacture, sale, possession and use of cannabis.

With his decision to oppose cannabis prohibition, Emery has strayed from his previous focus on individual rights. He has instead resorted to provocation and agitation in an attempt to build sympathy for himself and for victims of prohibition, and to provoke anger against politicians, parties, and governments that have advocated cannabis prohibition, or that have done nothing to repeal it. FPI is not a political party per se, but a philosophical organization that advocates rational governance. As such, we reject Emery's emotion-focused strategy and tactics.

However, we stand by and defend Emery on philosophical grounds. A human being's defining feature is his or her capacity to reason. In our view, it is morally right that a human being put his own survival and the pursuit of his own happiness first, and we assert that a person cannot do that if he is not free to act upon the rational conclusions of his own mind. To that end, we assert that the proper role of government is to ensure that no person obtains any values from any other person without that person's consent. We quite agree that it is morally wrong to use marijuana, or any substance, in an attempt to avoid facing reality and dealing with it. However, in a free country, the government does not punish people simply for making foolish or self-destructive decisions so long as those decisions do not involve violations of another person's liberty or property.

In early 2008, U.S. authorities agreed with Emery to a deal in which Emery would serve a five year term for violations of U.S. prohibition laws, but would serve it on Canadian soil. On Canadian soil, he would have been released on parole within a year. However, the Conservative government of Canada refused to agree to the deal. For that reason, Emery is now faced with being imprisoned in a U.S. facility for a full five-year term. FPI condemns the U.S. government's decision to prosecute Emery, and the Conservative government's refusal to agree to the U.S. offer to allow him to stay on Canadian soil. We call upon the Conservative government of Canada to revisit that decision and communicate with U.S. authorities so as to ensure that Emery never has to spend any time in a U.S. facility. We call upon opposition parties in the Canadian House of Commons to demand of the federal Conservatives that they defend the sovereignty -- and thereby, the liberty -- of Canadians by taking all necessary steps to ensure that Emery is not sent to a U.S. prison. We call upon the Obama administration to take all steps necessary to have the charges against Marc Emery dropped. And we call upon governments and legislatures in both countries to put an end to cannabis prohibition."

Posted by P.M. Jaworski on September 28, 2009 in Marc Emery, Marijuana reform | Permalink

Comments

So long druggie. Have fun in prison.

Posted by: Zebulon Pike | 2009-09-28 5:50:32 PM


Thank you Zebulon,your hate shines thru to show the real reason behind pot hatred. A plant that was here before you.belongs to us.

Posted by: Jason | 2009-09-28 6:03:25 PM


Jaws,

"Marc Emery was a columnist with the Western Standard...."

Was??? Why the past tense? Conrad Black isn't letting prison stop him from publishing, so why not continue to publish Emery? I'm sure he will still have things to say.

Posted by: Fact Check | 2009-09-28 6:04:44 PM


Good riddance to bad rubbish...

Posted by: Richard Evans | 2009-09-28 6:16:30 PM



illegitimi non carborundum Marc Emery.

Posted by: jeff franklin | 2009-09-28 6:17:36 PM


Emery did this to himself. He arrogantly believed that no one would notice or care that he sold seeds by mail to US customers. Worse, even if they did find out, he believed that his citizenship would protect him. Guess what: HE WAS WRONG!

I see no reason to back a loser.

Posted by: Zebulon Pike | 2009-09-28 6:25:29 PM


Best Wishes Marc. You can count on me to write and protest your incarceration. Instead of arguing with the wall (Shane Matthews), I will instead devote that time to a letter writing campaign. Be safe, and hopefully your wife will see you soon.

Posted by: Steve Bottrell | 2009-09-28 6:37:32 PM


Anyone who claims to support freedom then has the audacity to express joy in Emery being hauled off to jail is a hippocrate. Its just a plant, for God's sake. Wake up.

Posted by: Leigh Patrick Sullivan | 2009-09-28 7:15:10 PM


Sorry but the reason why Mark is hell right now is because not enough people are honest.I prefer to call these dishonest people closet smokers.
Does anybody realize that if all that indulge spoke out things would change.
I have indulged for over forty years and so have many people I have meet over the years .Most all the individuals I know own companies,lawyers,doctors,etc...
The point is there are alot more out there that comsume than what is being printed in papers and on the news.
As far as the canadian goverment is concerned they have been kissing the american ass for a long time.Remember they only care for themselves as they get a big pension for kissing ass with the american.
By the way in over forty years I still think ,produce,employ people,help people,care for others,and many people from all walks of life will confirm this .So yes I am a productive member of society.

Posted by: Don Ogden | 2009-09-28 7:15:14 PM


Here we go again--Uncle Sam taking liberties on someone elses sovreign soil--citing a War on Drugs--this time its the Prince of Pot--not poppies!

I wish they would just build that oil pipeline from Russian Kazikstan to Kabul and end the charade once and for all.

Perhaps I spoke in haste--maybe Canadians do have a spine after all--in which case I have a couple of words for Uncle Sam, " Adios, Senor!" oh! and don't forget to lock the gate behind you!

By the way--what kind of a name is Zebulon, anyway?

Posted by: Smokey Chipotle | 2009-09-28 7:16:43 PM


Marc Emery is a Canadian hero. He took a principled stand and peacefully fought for what he thought was right. The US extradition stinks of foreign interference in Canadian political affairs.

History will treat him well.

Posted by: J Story | 2009-09-28 7:38:56 PM


Emery is nothing but a drug-dealing criminal. He may have masqueraded as a businessman, but at heart he had nothing but contempt for society. His actions were driven by pure, 100% economic self-interest and self-aggrandizement. It's a pity that so many people were dumb enough to fall for it.

if I really wanted him gone, I would have strapped seeds to his body and put him on a plane to Singapore. You know what they do to drug traffickers there?

So, since Emery will be unavailable for the next decade, who will fill his place at the Western Standard?

The name "Zebulon" was the name of the 10th Tribe of the Israelites. I took the nickname from the US general who died in 1813 trying to make Toronto a better place by burning it to the ground.

Posted by: Zebulon Pike | 2009-09-28 7:43:24 PM


Did I write sovreign! Sorry sovereign--I'm a medicinal marijuana user--welcome to my world.

Posted by: Smokey Chipotle | 2009-09-28 7:50:59 PM


Huh, and I thought Zebulon meant black racist. Who knew?

Posted by: Steve Bottrell | 2009-09-28 8:04:57 PM


Hey Zeb--I get it buddy--I was just drawing you out for another shot--a coup d' grace, maybe---

But this is way too much fun. Speaking of 1813--the beginning of your last rant reminded me of, oh, I don't know--maybe George Washington circa 1776.

As for the Singapore metaphor--I'm speechless
You win!

Posted by: Smokey Chipotle | 2009-09-28 8:18:58 PM


All this BS for SEED's to a PLANT that is SAFER then COFFEE. What a waste of money.

Posted by: Baker | 2009-09-28 8:24:43 PM


Marc Emery's impending extradition is a fraud, and our fawning government is complicit.

In 2003, the US government acquired a patent for cannabinoids as antioxidants and neuroprotectors. http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/6630507/description.html. This is an explicit confirmation of its recognition as medicine.

While the DEA was investigating Marc Emery for the sole purpose of his extradition, and since they've been lying through their teeth that Cannabis has no accepted medical value. Not accepted by them.

Canada handing over Emery is one of many cases of the increasing erosion of our sovereignty. Look up the Const. David Laing or the White Rock cases.

The US and Canadian governments are complicit in hate crimes and genocide against the Cannabis culture.

Cannabis is the most studied medicinal plant on Earth. Hundreds of patents have been issued to universities and pharmaceutical companies.

The darker side of human nature is behind prohibition, as they relentlessly seek to control us. This predatory cult is getting overgrown.

Posted by: Bruce Codere | 2009-09-28 9:52:00 PM


Those who consider this a sovereignty issue need to get over their outrage and give their heads a shake. Emery violated U.S. sovereignty by illegally smuggling an illegal product onto their soil. The fact that Canadian authorities made little effort to prosecute for the same offence is irrelevant. Canadians who break American laws are not exempt from prosecution for it, nor do they have any right to expect to serve their time in a Canadian prison.

Everything that has happened has done so in strict adherence to American law, Canadian law, and the terms of the extradition treaty between our nations. Even the law under which he was charged is virtually identical in both countries. Under the law of both, selling of either viable marijuana seeds or marijuana is illegal; under the law of both, the maximum penalty for growing or possessing for the purpose of import or export is life in prison.

Posted by: Shane Matthews | 2009-09-28 10:02:49 PM


Anyone who claims to support freedom then has the audacity to express joy in Emery being hauled off to jail is a hippocrate. Its just a plant, for God's sake. Wake up.

You mean like cocaine and opium are plants?

Posted by: Shane Matthews | 2009-09-28 10:03:31 PM


History will treat him well.

History seldom treats self-serving narcissists well. The baby boomers will not likely by fondly remembered by history either—and for similar reason.

Posted by: Shane Matthews | 2009-09-28 10:05:23 PM


In 2003, the US government acquired a patent for cannabinoids as antioxidants and neuroprotectors. Http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/6630507/description.html. This is an explicit confirmation of its recognition as medicine.

No, it’s an official recognition of its perceived potential as medicine. An official recognition would be adding it to the pharmacopoeia (from which doctors, not politicians, removed it in 1942) and the list of FDA-approved drugs. This has not happened yet, and given recent reports concerning cancer and psychosis, it may never make it there.

Canada handing over Emery is one of many cases of the increasing erosion of our sovereignty. Look up the Const. David Laing or the White Rock cases.

I did. They’re not comparable. The Texan troopers had no authority to actually arrest and were under supervision at all times; their presence was merely to act as consultants. Also, Laing’s obnoxious mouthiness and bald racism, e.g. “As a Canadian I have different policing styles than a Texas trooper; we have different freedoms” didn’t help matters. His statement is also false, as the same legal freedoms exist in both countries. In fact, Texas is in many ways a lot freer than Canada; in Texas you can carry a firearm to protect your own existence, unlike in this country.

You expect to be taken seriously after going on the record with pap like this? Where are the killing fields? The corpses? For that matter, where is cannabis “culture”? A few magazines and a few blogs does not a culture make.

Cannabis is the most studied medicinal plant on Earth. Hundreds of patents have been issued to universities and pharmaceutical companies.

And here I thought that honour went to the opium poppy. If marijuana is being made into so many drugs, why are medical users still smoking it and stinking up the neighbourhood?

The darker side of human nature is behind prohibition, as they relentlessly seek to control us. This predatory cult is getting overgrown.

No, what’s getting overgrown is this fifty-year-old, self-justifying boomer pap. Marijuana is a boomer drug; it owes its current popularity to the fact that the boomers are currently the reigning establishment. I predict that once the boomers are all in retirement homes, it will become far less of political issue.

Posted by: Shane Matthews | 2009-09-28 10:19:09 PM


All this BS for SEED's to a PLANT that is SAFER then COFFEE.

Oh, coffee causes psychosis and lung cancer too???

You're not doing your cause any favours by spouting unsupportable horseshit like this, Baker. Pot users often complain that the reason kids try pot in the first place is they don't believe the outrageous claims of the "prohibitionists." But the claims from the other side, among them "cures cancer!" and "safer than coffee!" are hardly an improvement in the truth department.

Posted by: Shane Matthews | 2009-09-28 10:23:02 PM


Shame on Shane,
This isn't about plants or freedoms--it's about the men who stare at goats.

Shane--google Rumsfeld aspartame --read around a bit and see if anything changes your point of view--then get back to me and we'll argue about Reefer Madness.

Seriously!

Posted by: Smokey Chipotle | 2009-09-28 10:25:09 PM


"You mean like cocaine and opium are plants"

Nope, they are not plants. Derived from plants, yes.

Posted by: Steve Bottrell | 2009-09-28 10:25:31 PM


I thank God every morning when I awake
And I realize that the Cossacks have not burned my house.

Still, its disturbing to realize that the enemy is at the gates.

Surely, you see that.

Posted by: Smokey Chipotle | 2009-09-28 10:35:24 PM


Go Smokey, this should turn into a 300+ posting. Before you start, go bash your head against the wall, it will prepare you for whats ahead.

Posted by: Steve Bottrell | 2009-09-28 10:36:11 PM


Nope, they are not plants. Derived from plants, yes.

I didn't think you could bring yourself to admit the obvious. Prepared marijuana isn't made from the whole plant, either. Cocaine is prepared from the coca leaf, whereas raw opium is merely squeezed from the poppy bulb—and smoked as is, it produced tens of millions of addicts during the latter half of the 19th century.

Curare is a plant, too. By all means, chow down on that.

Posted by: Shane Matthews | 2009-09-28 10:39:36 PM


Shame on Shane

This is not about plants or freedoms--it goes straight to the heart of the men who stare at goats!

Shane: google Rumsfeld aspartame. Read around that quagmire a bit and see if you don't come away with a different point of view--if not, get back to me and we'll explore the relative dangers of Reefer Madness.

Seriously.

Posted by: Smokey Chipotle | 2009-09-28 10:42:16 PM


"He arrogantly believed that no one would notice or care that he sold seeds by mail to US customers."

Are you serious ?
Why am I under the impression that Emery did it precisly so people would notice ?
He arrogantly did a lot of things and that's why he's a hero, and you a nobody.

Posted by: Marc | 2009-09-28 10:42:22 PM


Smokey, that's not an argument; it's an attitude. Which is very typical of pot smokers. They are not used to serious argument, relying on emotion to carry the day. Well, all the weeping in the world didn't do Marc Emery and his half-age bride a bit of good, did it?

Let me know when you have something of substance and not just counterculturalist pap.

Posted by: Shane Matthews | 2009-09-28 10:42:39 PM


He arrogantly did a lot of things and that's why he's a hero, and you a nobody.

Ah, but he's a nobody who's not going to prison. Put that in your bong and smoke it, Marc.

Posted by: Shane Matthews | 2009-09-28 10:44:00 PM


P.M., there is no such thing as a fake crime; only laws based on fake facts. The whole world outlawed pot at pretty much the same time (apart from Islamic countries, where it had already been illegal for centuries), so it's pretty hard to argue that it was all the result of the racism and hysteria of American politicians. Nor has the example of the generation that grew up smoking pot, the baby boomers, done much to shake the image of marijuana as the drug of self-indulgent adolescents.

Posted by: Shane Matthews | 2009-09-28 10:47:36 PM


"Ah, but he's a nobody who's not going to prison. Put that in your bong and smoke it, Marc"

Matthews,
Long after you and your fat ass will leave this Earth for eating way too much donuts in front of your screen 20 hours a day, Marc Emery will be known for being the father of marijuana legalization in Canada.

Put that in your burger and eat it, fat face.

Posted by: Marc | 2009-09-28 11:13:47 PM


jeepers Shane-- at first I thought you were just blowing off steam--I had no idea you had such a deep knowledge of psycho-pharmacopea--I on the other hand am a relative newcomer and admittedly a real rube. I started smoking dope about 40 years ago.

I loved the stuff but it was socially unacceptable, taboo, stigmatized so I weaned myself off the stuff and stuck to the more socially acceptable and legal drugs: tobacco and alcohol and my use of these substances--if not legendary are at least a matter of record.

The smoley-olies nearly killed me years ago and the booze; well it pretty much delivered as advertised--fortunately I now live with out either-- although lately I started to enjoy a 2 beer buzz again.

Five years ago I was given a death sentence--cancer--I had only months to live--bummer man!
I spiralled into depression fueled by pain grief and anger and prescribed oxycontins.

At some point I said, "this is very un-dude of you, Dude" and I took control back. I started smoking pot again--lots of it. I started feeling better--I have been smoking my brains out[so to speak] ever since and even between bouts of chemo--in spite of the best medical opinions--my life was back--is back.Seemingly lost in a narcotic fog to many and oh so sorry that I will never soar with eagles like Shane again--but never-the-less

The Dude Abides

Posted by: Smokey Chipotle | 2009-09-28 11:24:38 PM


Long after you and your fat ass will leave this Earth for eating way too much donuts in front of your screen 20 hours a day, Marc Emery will be known for being the father of marijuana legalization in Canada.

And on that day, Marc, Satan will be skating to work. Speaking of Satan, how's your campaign against the Great Satan coming along?

Posted by: Shane Matthews | 2009-09-28 11:29:41 PM


jeepers Shane-- at first I thought you were just blowing off steam--I had no idea you had such a deep knowledge of psycho-pharmacopea--I on the other hand am a relative newcomer and admittedly a real rube. I started smoking dope about 40 years ago.

For strictly medicinal reasons, I'm sure. So what you're saying is that I was right—dope is a boomer drug primarily campaigned for, now as well as then, by boomers.

I loved the stuff but it was socially unacceptable, taboo, stigmatized so I weaned myself off the stuff and stuck to the more socially acceptable and legal drugs: tobacco and alcohol and my use of these substances--if not legendary are at least a matter of record.

If I read this correctly, you're also saying that you're not much for taking things in moderation.

The smoley-olies nearly killed me years ago and the booze; well it pretty much delivered as advertised--fortunately I now live with out either-- although lately I started to enjoy a 2 beer buzz again.

Recent studies show marijuana to be as bad for your lungs as tobacco. Which makes sense, if you think about it; it contains far more tar, and is typically smoked unfiltered. If you must do either, give your lungs a break and use a vaporizer. No burnt taste, more efficient use of the product, and best of all, no stink.

Five years ago I was given a death sentence--cancer--I had only months to live--bummer man! I spiralled into depression fueled by pain grief and anger and prescribed oxycontins.

Bummer indeed.

At some point I said, "this is very un-dude of you, Dude" and I took control back. I started smoking pot again--lots of it. I started feeling better--I have been smoking my brains out[so to speak] ever since and even between bouts of chemo--in spite of the best medical opinions--my life was back--is back.Seemingly lost in a narcotic fog to many and oh so sorry that I will never soar with eagles like Shane again--but never-the-less, The Dude Abides.

Congratulations on the relapse. But let's not gild the lily; it's extremely unlikely that pot had anything to do with your sudden turn for the better. A cancer will grow and grow if it wants, regardless of how happy you are. Pot may make you forget life's troubles, but it's a treatment for precious little, and a cure for nothing. It just makes you too stoned to care. Whatever it is, it isn't medicine; not the way you use it.

Posted by: Shane Matthews | 2009-09-28 11:36:36 PM


"Speaking of Satan, how's your campaign against the Great Satan coming along?"

...says the asshole who post 20 to 35 times each time he sees the words "Marc Emery".

Posted by: Marc | 2009-09-28 11:39:54 PM


...says the asshole who post 20 to 35 times each time he sees the words "Marc Emery".

Consider your surrender accepted, Marc.

Posted by: Shane Matthews | 2009-09-28 11:41:44 PM


I thought I was angry
methinks Shane is lost to the Dark Side--

Come back Shane, come back

Posted by: Smokey Chipotle | 2009-09-28 11:42:10 PM


The man who tokes alone
In darken'd rooms
Who endless drones
'Mid pungent fumes
Yet mulls others for darklings.

You're really enlightened, all right. Now sit back and enjoy the fruits of your enlightenment.

Posted by: Shane Matthews | 2009-09-28 11:49:14 PM


Consider what you want, Matthews.
The important thing is that you never stop eating those triple cheeseburgers.

Posted by: Marc | 2009-09-28 11:50:46 PM


Hockey, donuts, Satanic Verses--this has truly been one enchanted evening--thanks, we should get together more often.

Shane; you are obviously a fella in the know--tell me something--is Tim Hortons 'spiking'the coffee--you know; like the tobacco companies used to do with the ciggies?

Just wondering.

Posted by: Smokey Chipotle | 2009-09-29 12:05:34 AM


The important thing is that you never stop eating those triple cheeseburgers.

Shit. I already have, and have lost 20 pounds in the last month. What a fucking cucumber I am, not to have taken Marc's advice.

Posted by: Shane Matthews | 2009-09-29 12:12:47 AM


I don't drink coffee, Smokey. And despite Marc's ill-tempered rant, I don't eat many doughnuts either. And technically it's only "spiking" if they don't tell you about it on the ingredients list, which is available at their website. Complete nutritional info for everything from their most rousing coffees to their most decadent doughnuts. Most handy when you're counting calories.

I'll say this for you—your easygoing, take-it-as-it-comes style is a welcome break from the anger-filled diatribes that typically besmirch this board. But I'm sure Marc and Dr. Greenthumb have no idea what I'm talking about. :-)

Posted by: Shane Matthews | 2009-09-29 12:18:03 AM


P.S. Sorry. I should have said, "congratulations on the remission." My bad. :-(

Posted by: Shane Matthews | 2009-09-29 12:20:25 AM


Who said anything about remission--I still have full blown prostate cancer and it is killing me. I had a choice--swallow everything the doctors prescribed and keep your fingers crossed--anti imflammatories, beta blockers,narcotic painkillers--its a long list--trust me--and willingly I have volunteered for some of the most bizarre experiments--paid for by drug companies--that anyone, even you Shane, could imagine--my name still stands on the volunteer list--I'll swallow anything!
Faint hope, sure, maybe at first--but believe it or not--now I do for guys like you--maybe I can cut you a break down the road--who knows. I firmly believe that I've survived this long because of some drug 'experimenting' that began back in the sixties.[save your boomer bluster for the uninitiated]

I know the pot isn't curing the cancer--but! it does allow me relative freedom from pain and I can leave the 'spookier' stuff in the dispensary for the time being--I know the final 'trip' will include opiates--but in the meantime, please allow me to make my own informed choices on treating myself--save the neo-con nonsense for something you actually know something about

I am under no illusions about the merits of cannabis--its how man has medicated for ten thousand years--the third world still knows no alternative medicine.

Sadly, modern medicine hasn't offered me much of an alternative--I do have some choices and I have made mine. I won't be taking any lessons from you--even if you are a no-it-all.

Try taking a walk in my shoes Shane, you'll be singing the praises of the evil weed--within a week.

On reflection; perhaps not--you seem to be made of much sterner stuff--bully for you.

Posted by: Smokey Chipotle | 2009-09-29 1:12:59 AM


before I smoke a doobie and go to bed--consider this Shane--there is overwhelming evidence that pot smoking does not cause lung cancer--in fact it may even bring relief or God forbid-- prevent lung cancer.
You've been shooting from the lip all night--you even suggested that cannabis has been studied to death. News flash genius--that could not be further from the truth--I hang with oncologists all the time now, regrettably, they know squat. That seems to be slightly more [or less] than you.

Here's something else to consider--I have suffered from chronic sinusitis and seasonal allergies for years-- aggravated by dozens of triggers including smoke, perfume, dust, mold--get the picture.

Since regularly smoking good medical grade marijuana--usually 5 fatties a day--I have not had a relapse--I can't get 'stuffy' for trying.

I dunno--and it's increasingly obvious to me that you don't either.Sweet dreams Prince of Darkness.

Posted by: Smokey Chipotle | 2009-09-29 1:40:55 AM


Zebulon - if you were not a spineless turd, you would use you real name on line like we do. But you are a spineless turd. Probably a cop, probably using taxpayer-funded computer while on duty. I hope you get a really slow cancer that takes years to kill you so that your soul can be sent back to hell where it came from.

But something that Emery and his followers seem unable to admit to is that he has a very strong chance of being murdered in a US jail.

Charismatic people like Emery make friends easily, but they also make enemies just as fast. Evil rumors have already been spread about Emery on Facebook and other web forums, so it would be naive not to think that someone - a guard or inmate - might take a very serious dislike to him, and want to make a name for himself by "taking Emery out".

Emery talks about spending his jail time writing his memoires and learning new languages, but sadly, I predict that he will not live to see 2010. There is a a 50-75% chance that we have just sent one of our own citizens to his death in a foreign jail for selling seeds - seeds that Health Canada officials told me personally to buy from Emery.

So much for our sovereignty.

Posted by: Russell Barth | 2009-09-29 5:05:10 AM


It ain't boomer bluster, Smokey; you're just mad cause you were pigeonholed so easily. Pot is very much a boomer issue. They've convinced themselves that it's as harmless as soda pop, chiefly on the grounds that it's their drug. This nonsense has proceeded to the point where society has declared open war on tobacco smokers while tipping a conspiratorial wink at marijuana smokers. And perhaps not coincidentally, this is a generation that is noted for its lack of maturity—the very lack of maturity noted in marijuana smokers, I might add.

Cannabis is not, in fact, the medicine of the third world; it is barely mentioned in historical records. The most noticeable reference is to the medieval Assassins cult, so called because they smoked hashish (and everyone thought they were a little bit crazy). From chewing willow bark to eating earthworm broth to "beef" up a protein-poor diet, the ancient medicine cabinet was at least as full as the modern one, if not as effective. All the marijuana in the world didn't cure the Black Death, but a quick course of antibiotics would have.

To sum up, Smokey, grow up. The fact that doctors can't help you doesn't make them useless, know-nothing morons. Who's the more foolish, the doctor who can't cure the disease, or the patient who may have given himself the disease in the first place, with full knowledge of what he was doing the entire time? Yes, smoking does up the risk of prostate cancer—by 60 percent or so. And most of the recent evidence suggests that smoking marijuana DOES cause lung cancer; it is only as difficult to prove as it is because it's very hard to find someone who smokes marijuana who doesn't also smoke tobacco.

Posted by: Shane Matthews | 2009-09-29 6:43:50 AM



"Marijuana in its natural form, is one of the safest therapeutically active substances known to man."- Judge Francis Young U.S. Department of Justice. Sept. 1988


This Bud's for you Rahim Jaffer.

Posted by: jeff franklin | 2009-09-29 7:01:17 AM


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