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Monday, June 15, 2009

Caledonia Militia looking for a few good men

Western Standard readers first learned of the troubles in Caledonia from columnist Ric Dolphin in July 2007.

Dolphin wrote:

Today, the Six Nations activists in the Caledonia area west of Niagara Falls, together with that tribe of Mohawks up near Belleville, Ont., who blocked the CN mainline for 30 hours in April, continue to agitate and occupy and generally prevent law-abiding residents from going about their business. McGuinty is keeping the OPP in check, lest another Ipperwash erupt. The premier's line has been that the disputes are not Ontario's concern, and that Indian and Northern Affairs Canada and Minister Prentice ought to clean things up.

Almost two years later and the OPP continue to show restraint toward the occupying natives, a situation non-aboriginal Caledonia residents are calling two-tier justice. Caledonia resident Doug Fleming has had enough and today announced he is forming the Caledonia Militia.

In a statement for the media, Fleming writes:

Enough is enough! Due to the ongoing reality that the OPP refuses to enforce the Criminal Code with regards to people's property rights I am forming the Caledonia Militia to ensure that the criminal code is upheld in Haldimand County.

Section 38 - 42 of the Criminal Code outlines the rights of all citizens to lawfully protect their property against trespassers and against those who would steal private property. Parliament has seen fit to allow citizens the right to use reasonable force to remove trespassers from private property.

The OPP has threatened the legal owners of properties stating they will be arrested instead of the trespassers. Superior courts have already ruled that such arrests by the OPP would be illegal. The Cayuga injunction ruling stated "the police have no right to prevent the plaintiffs from acting within their rights under Section 41 of the Criminal Code. Their warning to the plaintiffs that they would arrest anyone who is involved in a physical confrontation, regardless of the circumstances, is an abuse of the power conferred on them (the OPP) by Section 31 of the Criminal Code".

Any member of the public who wishes to join the Caledonia Militia to aid in the enforcement of the Criminal Code is welcome to attend an information session at Cayuga Lion's Hall, Tuesday, June 23rd at 7 P.M. Hotheads need not apply. We're opposing terrorism, not engaging in it. We will follow established procedures on the use of reasonable force to remove illegal trespassers. Trespassers will be arrested and turned over to the OPP for the prosecution of their offences.

Your community needs you.

Posted by Matthew Johnston

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Comments

What rubbish from McGuinty! This is not about Indians coming under the federal Indian Act; it is about the responsibility of protecting law-abiding Ontarians and enforcing the rule of law. It would be the same if the situation were reversed with whites preventing the Indians from going about their legal business.

Posted by: Alain | 2009-06-15 8:40:08 PM


Actually, the Caledonia militia is targeting a Six Nations smoke shop, trying to put them out of business.

Posted by: granny | 2009-06-15 8:49:39 PM


The bigger story is how the lack of police action in preventing the everincreasing numbers of smoke shacks on and off of the reserve coupled with McGuinty's allowing the continued occupation of the building site has allowed an expansion of both activities.
What teh media is largely ignoring is that the militia is being formed largely in response to a Smoke shack having been placed on the property of a third party deed holding citizen. An elderly man who lives alone, and was furiuous with the trespassers on his property. After being told any bloodshed would be on his hands if the police were asked to intervene (like at Oka and Ipperwash)he backed off and didn't file charges. A load of guilt to put on one guys shoulders.

Posted by: maria | 2009-06-15 9:21:09 PM


Guess supporters of SN theorists will do and say anything to justify these and other criminal acts.
Not one person said all of SN as their are good and bad everywhere. But sadly the bad ones from SN don't know respect for private property owners and a man in his seventies who lives alone and has the right to enjoy his hard work that afforded him a nice country setting has been targeted. They didn't ask they just plunked down a Smoke Shack right on his front lawn and then got the OPP to convince the senior that he would be the cause of violence if he ordered the trespassers off. Ontario had better wake up cause this could have easily been your parent of grand parent. Now there is proof the Ontario Government and the OPP don't honor land titles because the Federal Government has already stated the plank road claim is a non starter. Also a Superior Court Judge has ruled just a month or so ago the same findings as what the Federal Governments position is (Voortman vs. Mens Fire Council) No Law and Anarchy is on it's way.

Posted by: Livin in the Zone | 2009-06-15 10:00:40 PM


What a laugh. All the blood on that old man's hands if he did no more than exercise his legal rights? If it were me I wouldn't hesitate; I'd file charges and happily watch the blood run in the gutters as the troops pounded the insurrectionists into gruel.

This whole thing stinks. The OPP commissioner at the time this mess erupted quietly decamped and took a job in Ireland. Bands of criminal thugs rampage unchecked. All while Pretty Boy McGuinty bans, bans, bans. This would never have dragged on this long under Harris, I'll tell you that.

The way to deal with insurrectionists is with the army. Who cares if a little blood flows? As long as it's criminal blood, I'm perfectly okay with that.

Posted by: Shane Matthews | 2009-06-15 11:05:17 PM


Is there going to be a travel advisory issued by the Government warning people that something that might resemble a white supremecist group had formed in Caledonia and has taken over the policing?

I believe there is another group that has already been successful in assuming the county prosecutor's role.

If I were Six Nations band council, I'd be warning all natives to refrain from entering Caledonia and go to other neighbouring communities instead for shopping etc. Caledonia has clearly become a lawless anarchy of lawbreaking citizens trying to run the place and it shouldn't be too long before the sounds of gunfire in the streets becomes normal.

I'd be selling my house really fast now if I lived in that hell hole of a town. It's got to be the worst place in Canada now to live. I hear the Mayor is a real wing-nut also and backs up these lawless groups trying to form military style vigilante groups. Are the white robes and hoods on order from a uniform supply store yet?

Posted by: traveller | 2009-06-16 5:17:20 AM


Anything for an argument, eh, Traveller? If it were white people holding Six Nations hostage you can be sure McGuinty would be all over it. Because taking action against peaceful, law-abiding folk, especially if they're white, has no political complications.

Lawless places tend to attract vigilantism, as a substitute for bona fide law and order, which has intentionally and calculatingly forsaken this town, because they're afraid of another Ipperwash. Meanwhile, the insurrectionists have seized half-developed houses, and even have the nerve to demand free food and electricity to allow them to continue their siege!

McGuinty's cowardice in the face of this insurrection is breathtaking. How the people of Ontario were ever stupid enough to vote him in twice is beyond by comprehension.

Posted by: Shane Matthews | 2009-06-16 6:10:32 AM


Just what Caledonia needs, a bunch of disgruntled Haldimand-Norfolk residents enforcing the criminal code as they see fit. It's going to be like the wild west of centuries gone by. One can only hope they come to their senses and realize the folly of their ways.

Posted by: Mark-Alan Whittle | 2009-06-16 6:38:37 AM


Maybe you should take that message to Dalton McGuinty and Six Nations, Mark. Why, exactly, should these people put up with lawlessness, intimidation, criminal trespass, vandalism, and assault? And what solution do you have to provide them relief that hasn't already been tried and failed, or that will take years to show any kind of result?

If you have no answer, then you may profitably remain silent. Caledonia will survive a citizen's militia, provided they act with forbearance. Whether it will survive being neglected to death by uncaring Golden Horseshoe liberals is far less certain.

Posted by: Shane Matthews | 2009-06-16 6:55:40 AM


Systemic persection of Six Nations natives by the racist element in Caledonia, Haldimand and surounding areas is what has kept the problems going. The racists keep agitating things so that possibly blood will flow and it will justify guns being brought out just like Mississippi in the 1960's. The Caledonia racists/militia will not rest until natives start dying and even if it's at the expense of that town being destroyed. The racial hatred in that Town is like something I've never experienced before. I was suprised to see the White Supremecists from Stormfront recently take an interest in some of the ringleaders of racial hatred in Caledonia.

Posted by: traveller | 2009-06-16 7:28:47 AM


Well perhaps this quote will bring clarity to the situation at hand.
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"People here are starting to hate. They hate the OPP, they hate the natives, they hate anyone who isn't speaking out against it," said David Hartless, a Hamilton police officer who lives next to the occupied site. "It is just a vicious circle, and it is being watered and nurtured and fertilized by the government and the OPP standing back and saying, 'We are doing the best we can.'

Posted by: Mark-Alan Whittle | 2009-06-16 7:47:44 AM


Hey people wake up... I seen this disgruntled farmer come over and beg the people to put this shop on his land.... He pays mega taxes and is fed up with the feds... Why don't you get your facts straight before people post... If you don't believe me stop in at the smoke shop next store they will tell you... they are good folks... Waiting 200 yrs.. and stopping the local walmart is whats happening...

Posted by: Nations | 2009-06-16 9:38:22 AM


"Systemic persection of Six Nations natives by the racist element in Caledonia, Haldimand and surounding areas is what has kept the problems going."

Systemic lawlessness on the part of the Six Nations natives, from illegal occupation of other people's property to violence, along with the OPP's spineless refusal to do its job, is what has kept the problems going. Do you have any proof of this "persection," other than your own resentment?

"The racists keep agitating things so that possibly blood will flow and it will justify guns being brought out just like Mississippi in the 1960's."

Who says the racists in this case are white? We have a class of people who feels entitled to a huge whack of land simply because their ancestors used to own it, their claim to that, as well as tax-free status, based on a one-eighths-by-blood law straight out of the Jim Crow South.

"The Caledonia racists/militia will not rest until natives start dying and even if it's at the expense of that town being destroyed."

But if white people start dying, that's okay? If Caledonia is destroyed, it'll be Six Nation's fault, because they will have driven out all investors and developers. It's nothing to them; they still get their government payouts for being alive either way.

"The racial hatred in that Town is like something I've never experienced before. I was suprised to see the White Supremecists from Stormfront recently take an interest in some of the ringleaders of racial hatred in Caledonia."

I am surprised that this kind of race-based favouritism--giving people land and money because of a bloodline--has actually survived intact into the 21st century. I notice you don't give your real name, Traveller. Any particular reason?

Posted by: Shane Matthews | 2009-06-16 9:53:16 AM


So what you're saying, Mark, is that the government and OPP are ultimately responsible for this mess, by refusing to step in and do their jobs? That is no more than what I said. If they refuse to honour their obligation to maintain law an order, they forfeit their right to complain--or to do anything--if someone else does it.

Posted by: Shane Matthews | 2009-06-16 9:55:34 AM


"If you don't believe me stop in at the smoke shop next store they will tell you... they are good folks... Waiting 200 yrs.. and stopping the local walmart is whats happening..."

So they'll tell us they're good folks, will they, Nation? I do hope they're trustworthy. Also, they must be a very long-lived people to have been waiting 200 years for a resolution to something that was done to them personally 200 years ago.

What's that you say? It was done not to them by contemporary Canadians, but to their ancestors by historical Canadians? Since when does anyone have a claim for something that happened to a remote ancestor who died before his great-great-great-grandfather was even born?

By the way, that local Wal-Mart supplies both jobs and goods, two things any community needs to survive. The ability of a community to survive without Six Nations around is amply proven by thousands of successful Canadian communities. The ability of a community to survive WITH Six Nations around is far more questionable.

Posted by: Shane Matthews | 2009-06-16 9:59:48 AM


I believe Doug Fleming and a few others may very well find themselves in jail and charged with "incitement" shortly.
There's one non native ringleader behind this all and he takes advantage of both the limited intelligence and inbred racially motivated hatred of others who can't figure that out and get played like a fiddle.

Posted by: traveller | 2009-06-16 10:02:52 AM


"I believe Doug Fleming and a few others may very well find themselves in jail and charged with "incitement" shortly."

You believe a lot of stuff, Traveller, much of it delusional.

"There's one non native ringleader behind this all and he takes advantage of both the limited intelligence and inbred racially motivated hatred of others who can't figure that out and get played like a fiddle."

You talk like this an accuse others of racism. Talk about projection.

Posted by: Shane Matthews | 2009-06-16 10:12:43 AM


I am the editor of VoiceofCanada.ca and a co-founder of Canadian Advocates for Charter Equality (CANACE). We have been involved in the struggle against native extremism and OPP racial policing on a full time basis for nearly 3 years.

CANACE founders have been interviewed at length and quoted by the Western Standard regarding our Ipperwash Papers project, and other key stories regarding Caledonia.

We are very well acquainted with Mr. Fleming. He is anything but the racist inbred redneck some have tried to portray him as. He is a level-headed, well-read man who believes that all people should be equal before the law, and that native people should not be allowed to victimize the innocent to get what they want.

When we first got involved we experienced the same disgusting allegations of 'racist KKK white supremacist' BS simply because we dared to protest against the victimization of innocent people in Caledonia, and because we dared to gather and expose the evidence of the crimes committed by the thugs.

Anyone who wants to know the truth behind the frustration of Caledonia residents - including the conduct of Doug Fleming - can visit the page below. It has links to legal documents, in-depth reports, and stories documenting the victimization of both Caledonia & Ipperwash. I suspect you will wonder why it took 3 years for a militia unit to be formed.

http://voiceofcanada.wordpress.com/about/

My/our 'qualifications' can be found in a PDF at a link on this page:

http://joincanace.wordpress.com/about-2/founding-members/

One of the Western Standard articles we consulted on can be found here.

http://voiceofcanada.wordpress.com/2007/06/22/truth-emerges-as-ipperwash-papers-go-mainstream/

I hope this will be helpful in sorting truth from the outright lies that some are promoting here.

Mark Vandermaas
VoiceofCanada.ca
Canadian Advocates for Charter Equality
canace.ca

Posted by: Mark Vandermaas | 2009-06-16 10:57:19 AM


SN is not an a first nation to Canada but are war refuges who were losing their land in New York State. Britain helped them and let them occupy land they had recently bought from the New Credit FN community. There was never any transfer of land fee and clear to SN people's but because Canada has maintained their existence they want more and more. Caledonia and the plank road have been deemed a non starter in land claims. But yet SN radicals and thugs see a weak provincial government to take advantage of. This they have done successfully for three plus years.
Dalton and his government have buried their head in the sand and have ignored the rule of law and rights of Canadians in the Grand River Valley.
What do you expect people to do after three years of waiting for answers that are not given and a non existent OPP.

Posted by: Livin in the Zone | 2009-06-16 11:54:51 AM


OPP = Federal Government = Provincial Government = Gutless Turds

Posted by: BS | 2009-06-16 12:27:03 PM


http://www.thespec.com/News/BreakingNews/article/583933

"But police told Haldimand council Monday night that there was no intimidation involved in the smoke shack. The Grand River Sachem reports that OPP Inspector Dave McLean said the owner agreed to it going up."


Hmm ... seems to be a difference of 'perception' here ... The Caledonia militia is forming to protect someone's private property ... but the landowner doesn't want their 'protection'.

Hunh ... So if they try to go on his land, the 'militia' will be arrested and charged with trespassing.

Ohhhh ... could it be any funnier!!! ROTFLMAO
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Posted by: granny | 2009-06-16 12:52:38 PM


Granny I had hope you would have found your boat by now. you are as much a part of the paid propaganda as M.A.W. is. Other then that keep spouting as anyone with half of a brain see you as a troll.

Since you don't even know the property owner you have no voice.

Posted by: Livin in the Zone | 2009-06-16 2:00:26 PM


Naw, I'll leave that to the OPP. Clearly they have a good handle on it.

Vigilantes for rent ... free!! ... but no takers!

ROTFLMAO !!

Posted by: granny | 2009-06-16 2:05:57 PM


Why not let the First Nations have their way? It's only fair after what whites have done to them.

Posted by: Zebulon Pike | 2009-06-16 2:20:33 PM


The whites have done to them. WTF? We are living in 2009 not 1749.

Posted by: Livin in the Zone | 2009-06-16 2:56:39 PM


Yes, Granny, I'm sure we can believe everything the OPP says. They would never lie or distort the truth, would they? Next to the people who support the native violence in Caledonia while trying to deny it or excuse it, the OPP have been the biggest liars of all.

Fleming didn't form the militia for this one landowner; he did it for all of Haldimand.

Posted by: Mark Vandermaas | 2009-06-16 3:01:46 PM


The precedent for a citizen's militia has already been set. It's called the Mohawk Warrior Society. What's good for the goose.................

Posted by: Jason | 2009-06-16 4:02:55 PM


It's ironic that so many white Ontarians supported the Nelson Mandela and the ANC against Apartheid in South Africa, but now oppose every step the First Nations make in defense of their freedoms, using military force against these people. Hypocrites. Burn in hell.

Posted by: Zebulon Pike | 2009-06-16 4:28:38 PM


Here's the latest development in the Hamilton Spectator.
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Caledonia farmer caught between militia, natives

CALEDONIA — A Caledonia farmer upset that some natives have erected a smoke shack in his front yard is now furious that townsfolk have proposed a militia in part to protect him.

“I drank a lot of coffee with the natives and we came to an agreement that they move off my land in a few days,” said Ernie Palmer, who lives down the road from a former Douglas Creek Estates, a subdivision that was occupied by natives in 2006.

Then, on Sunday, local entrepreneur and activist Doug Fleming proposed forming a “Caledonia Militia” to “ensure the Criminal Code is upheld in Haldimand County.”

“The agreement that the natives were going to leave was destroyed by Doug Fleming,” an infuriated Palmer said today.

“My problem is with Doug Fleming,” Palmer said today.

http://thespec.com/News/BreakingNews/article/583933

Posted by: Mark-Alan Whittle | 2009-06-16 7:05:02 PM


hilarious- even the farmer DF was meaning to 'protect' says that Doug Fleming is a problem!!!! At least the old farmer had some sense just to sit and both LISTEN and talk to the aboriginal people.

Posted by: morningcry | 2009-06-16 7:43:20 PM


The OPP and the politically correct Liberals sit around and let radicals disrupt a community for two years. Indian radicals are allowed to break the law. They make ludicrous statements but no one dare calls them racist! Some of the local population has had enough of being pushed around and is attacked as racists. What a crock! The people of Caledonia have the right to protect themselves. The province has abandoned its role as upholder of the peace and should be sued. If the OPP is so ineffective, then it should be done away with! Now is the time that all Ontario should stand up in support of the Caledonia locals. It also is one more sign that real provincial change is needed. I have no doubt that Hillier would never put up with this crap! This garbage goes on because we let political correctness and multicultural bull dominate our culture. There should be one law for everyone and either you follow it or accept the consequences. Shut don the radicals now! Arrest them! If they resort to weapons then they get what they deserve!

Posted by: Brian | 2009-06-16 7:51:48 PM


"A Caledonia farmer upset that some natives have erected a smoke shack in his front yard is now furious that townsfolk have proposed a militia in part to protect him."

But, didn't the OPP tell Council Ernie gave the natives permission?

"The Grand River Sachem reports that OPP Inspector Dave McLean said the owner agreed to it going up.""

Gee, what a surprise, the OPP lied to Council. Who could have known?

And now Ernie is saying the guy who wanted to help him (Doug Fleming) is the problem because the nice native who illegally built a criminal enterprise on his property promised to remove it in a few days, and now he won't.

Steve Powless is the one who threatened Brantford with violence, saying he and his gang would make it another Caledonia, but I'm sure he didn't intimidate Ernie at all. And I'm sure he would have kept his promise if Doug hadn't announced the Haldimand Militia.

Sure. One excuse is as good as another, I suppose.

Changes nothing - the fact that the natives built on private property without permission and the OPP lied about it to Council demonstrates clearly why the militia is needed, to protect other landowners from the same intimidation and lawlessness.

Posted by: Mark Vandermaas | 2009-06-16 8:45:46 PM


Hilarious! Even the farmer is inferring that Doug Fleming and the rest of the Caledonia goons are nothing but a bunch of racists, similar to the KKK. I guess that includes you also Vandermaas. You, Merlyn Kinrade, your "fearless leader" McHale and that pipsqueak Parkinson are nothing but a bunch of leeches trying to get a bloodbath going so you can make some easy money off the backs of hard working people. You're all a bunch of losers and you are not wanted in Caledonia. Go get a real job for once before the whole bunch of you end up costing taxpayers more to house the 4-5 or you in jail.

Posted by: traveller | 2009-06-16 9:01:55 PM


are Canadian men growing testicles?

wow... imagine. i've had to do a little trespasser pounding a couple times in the past. the last time, a cracked out puke ransacked my car in the back yard. this guy was an animal. i kicked him around, and the cop that came just winked at what i did. the kid was insane in the back seat of the patrol car as we talked.

this was an officer who respected the sanctity of property rights.

the Caledonia Militia maybe better keep their official status low though. they might get into trouble...

or hell, maybe they should simply call out the hypocrites and take a very loud stand. grease the machinery and get the mess rolling.

Posted by: shel | 2009-06-16 9:38:52 PM


Are you speaking for my town? If so I sure as hell didn't ask you and either did the 9998 people you claim to represent. This is my town from birth, school, hockey, football etc. We did not go to SN and tell them how to run their community. It's a shame those who can't respect can't stay out of my home town. There was a time when we all respected each other but sadly the pretendjins came to town and screwed that up. Once we have peace with no DCE occupation and no mohawk warriors and the likes of people who think it's all theirs, we will enjoy each other again as we have for hundreds of years. But sadly that will not happen as long as we have McGuinty's of the world who have no spine and only care about one place in Ontario and that is the GTA.

Posted by: Livin in the Zone | 2009-06-16 9:48:30 PM


hmm... my last post may have sounded a bit testosteronic.

well, we'll see what happens.

good night

Posted by: shel | 2009-06-16 9:48:46 PM


Caledonia farmer caught between militia, natives

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Says goodwill deal to remove smoke shack destroyed

June 16, 2009
Paul Morse
The Hamilton Spectator
CALEDONIA — A Caledonia farmer upset that some natives have erected a smoke shack in his front yard is now furious that townsfolk have proposed a militia in part to protect him.

“I drank a lot of coffee with the natives and we came to an agreement that they move off my land in a few days,” said Ernie Palmer, who lives down the road from a former Douglas Creek Estates, a subdivision that was occupied by natives in 2006.

Then, on Sunday, local entrepreneur and activist Doug Fleming proposed forming a “Caledonia Militia” to “ensure the Criminal Code is upheld in Haldimand County.”

“The agreement that the natives were going to leave was destroyed by Doug Fleming,” an infuriated Palmer said today.

“My problem is with Doug Fleming,” Palmer said today.

In a zone already simmering with distrust and resentment — but also hopeful compromise — between Six Nations natives, Caledonian residents and police, this new disturbance is threatening to become a flashpoint, with Palmer squarely in the middle.

About a week ago, Ohsweken resident Stephen (Boots) Powless, 44, decided to set up a smoke shack on Palmer’s land on Highway 6 just outside Caledonia to call attention to ongoing land claim disputes. He called up Palmer and let him know he was coming.

Powless was charged with mischief a week after a violent clash at the Stirling Woods subdivision in 2007 that left developer Sam Gualtieri with serious head injuries. Last year, the Crown dropped all charges against Powless and three other protesters.

“This here is stolen land,” Powless said today, sitting inside a car parked next to a little white trailer box where he sells discount cigarettes.

Powless said he was ready to pack up and leave when Fleming put out his call to form the militia.

“When they started talking ‘Caledonia Militia’ it reminded me of lynching parties down South,” he said. “They’re not different than the damned KKK (Klu Klux Klan). I’m not going to turn tail and run ... If the militia is coming after me, then let’s see them.”

Today, Fleming said any ‘militia’ would be unarmed but ready to use “reasonable force” to protect property owners against trespassers.

“Militia probably wasn’t the best choice of words ... and legally we may not be able to use that word,” he said. “If we can legally use the word militia then we will certainly will.”

Fleming’s plan is to form a citizen’s group similar to the Guardian Angels “who would be on call if residents felt unsafe and threatened for whatever reason.”

In a release, Fleming said Canadians have a legal right to protect their property against trespassers and that “Parliament has seen fit to allow citizens the right to use reasonable force” to remove them.

He said the militia would be willing, with Palmer’s permission, to park vehicles with people in them in the farmer’s driveway at night.

“Yes, there is a potential for violence, but even if there wasn’t, if there is unlawful activity taking place that the police do not appear to be responding to, then a citizen’s group would respond to it.”

Fleming said militia leaders would try to weed out any hotheads “looking for an excuse to bust heads.”

Haldimand County OPP commander Inspector Dave McLean strongly criticized any attempt to form a militia that could incite violence.

“Our concern is that this group is going to present themselves to individuals from Six Nations and there is going to be conflict,” he said.

“If this group thinks they’re going to be able to go out and use minimal force to remove anybody from Six Nations off smoke shack property, they are going to be faced with trouble.”

McLean said Palmer has not yet asked police to remove any trespasser.

“The OPP have not received any complaint from him of intimidation, extortion or threats in any way. In fact, he indicated he was not afraid for his safety and he just wants to be left alone.”

Palmer is awaiting a letter from his insurance company that voids his policy and saddles him with dangerous liability, and plans to show it to smoke shack operators, he said.

Palmer is hoping they will respect that, McLean said, and if they don’t, then it will be placed in the hands of the county and the OPP.

“If (Palmer) wishes to have those individuals removed, then we are going to have to strategize and find out the best way to do that, while at the same time maintaining the peace.”

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Posted by: traveller | 2009-06-16 10:50:54 PM


"You, Merlyn Kinrade, your "fearless leader" McHale and that pipsqueak Parkinson are nothing but a bunch of leeches trying to get a bloodbath going so you can make some easy money off the backs of hard working people."

People living off government handouts don't qualify as hard-working people. Stealing cars, stealing houses, or stealing whatever is not considered work.

"Go get a real job for once before the whole bunch of you end up costing taxpayers more to house the 4-5 or you in jail."

That's another thing. First Nations are imprisoned out of all proportion to their numbers. No, it's not systemic racism. They just commit more crimes.

Posted by: Shane Matthews | 2009-06-17 6:19:49 AM


People shouldn't have to rely on the goodwill of local thugs to have rights to their own property, Traveller. From what I understand these thugs don't even have a valid land claim. If they did, they probably wouldn't be acting this way.

Posted by: Shane Matthews | 2009-06-17 6:23:57 AM


Funny that some are calling Doug out on an idea not yet committed. There is no Militia yet people are acting like it is something that exists. Spin around.
They are at this point ideas floated about but that is it. How can one blame things that have not happened yet. If the militia showed up and said get off or else I can see the reaction. But that has not even happened has it. Take about stupidity or just bull shit propaganda.

Posted by: Livin in the Zone | 2009-06-17 1:23:46 PM


That's true, LitZ. It's possible no one will show up at all for Fleming's 'militia' meeting, except of course the undercover cops who will be left recording their own names and plate numbers! lol

For the information of those not involved, Gary McHale, Jeff Parkinson and Mark Vandermaas are not from the area and are white supremacist-types who are fomenting trouble in Caledonia by encouraging susceptible residents like Merlyn Kinrade and Doug and Randy Fleming to engage in anti-native activity.

This Saturday, Merlyn plans to parade past the Six Nations reclamation site with a Canadian flag. Then on Tues, Doug's going to outfit his militia with T-shirts ... or perhaps just collect the money for their T-shirts. Who knows - There don't seem to be any plan other than get T-shirts and then wait for the phone to ring. lol

It isn't likely that there will be any business for the militia, though. I expect the last thing anyone around Caledonia wants is these characters 'defending' their property. It's good media fodder, which is its purpose, but it's not likely to accomplish a damn thing.

Posted by: granny | 2009-06-17 4:36:54 PM


What the people of Caledonia do in their town is their business not the thugs from SN who have even gone to the point of telling people what they can and can't do in their own back yards. SN need to stay home and look after your own community. I believe DCE is in the hands of the province, that doesn't mean SN owns it. Leave the residents alone and in peace and maybe we can forgive and move on.

Posted by: Livin in the Zone | 2009-06-17 6:37:41 PM


If Merlyn wants to dress in ladies cloths and walk down the sidewalk that is his right as a Canadian. If he wants to support someone he feels has been wrongly targeted by walking on the side of the street back and forth, that again is his right to do so. Why can't you understand this Granny/Sage. It wouldn't be cranking up anything if people would stay home and respect an old man who feels he needs to do something. If SN truly want respect they must show it by staying home or ignoring it.

Posted by: Livin in the Zone | 2009-06-17 6:45:54 PM


Sadly I must say my fellow Canadians most people in Caledonia have reached a boiling point. I have heard their could be another road blockade of Argyle Street by the weekend. That action will do nothing but make a situation worse. People have zero hope that the province will do the right thing.
This type of action will provoke a reaction and that will be a sad thing to see happen.

Posted by: Livin in the Zone | 2009-06-17 6:53:56 PM


The poor old farmer is in big trouble. If he goes to the police, no doubt, the Indians will burn down his house or cause huge problems for him. He's screwed. Nice one OPP. Nice to uphold the law for all!

Posted by: Not in his shoes | 2009-06-17 6:54:31 PM


wait a minute..... A smoke shop on non-reserve property; Isn't that illegal? If not then why don't the Indians get smart and open up smoke shops in malls and along the 401 where the real crowds are. Think big man! Franchise it! Put one up at every Tim Horton's entrance. Now that would make you some money.

Posted by: Not in his shoes | 2009-06-17 7:01:49 PM


It is pretty obvious the direction the Canadian justice industry is moving to. Natives in Ontario are actively involved with bike gangs, Chinese triads, gun and drug trafficking yet seem to be immune from prosecution.

Possibly some of the profits are channeled to the politicians who are entrusted to uphold our laws. It is ironic that the only province that tries to tackle organized crime is Quebec.

Posted by: Dave | 2009-06-18 8:27:58 AM


"most people in Caledonia have reached a boiling point."

That's simply not true. There are a few hotheads spoiling for a fight, trying to create excitement, but "most people in Caledonia" are just ignoring those silly galoots and going about their normal business.

It's just the usual suspects, all of them well known to police.

Posted by: granny | 2009-06-19 1:18:09 AM


This from someone who doesn't live in Caledonia. As I said before stop speaking for us. This town is in deep anger that will only get worse as the criminals keep sticking it to the home owners. Four homes on Braemar Ave. have been vandalized with the criminals running back out to the Douglas Creek Estates where OPP will not go. Remains of dropped goods were picked up by residents who went out on DCE. Fresh tire tracks have been view by OPP but no officer will walk out and investigate.
Just the usual suspects that keep these and other crimes active, and are known to the OPP who do nothing but sit on their hands.

Posted by: Livin in the Zone | 2009-06-19 7:34:45 AM


TOOT TOOT Hey Granny your boats leaving!

Posted by: Livin in the Zone | 2009-06-19 9:38:08 AM



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