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Friday, June 19, 2009

Aga Khan granted Honorary Canadian Citizenship

Prime Minister Stephen Harper issued the following statement today on the House of Commons passing a motion to grant Honorary Canadian Citizenship to His Highness the Aga Khan:

“Today, on the advice of our Government, the House of Commons voted to bestow Honorary Canadian Citizenship upon His Highness the Aga Khan.

“This is recognition of the Aga Khan’s leadership as a champion of development, pluralism and tolerance around the world and of his remarkable leadership as Imam of the worldwide Ismaili community.

“Our Government appreciates the work of the Aga Khan Development Network to improve the quality of life of people in many of the world’s most impoverished nations. In particular, we are grateful for the immense contribution the Aga Khan Development Network is making in Afghanistan, as we work together to help the people of that country build a better future.

“Closer to home, our Government is proud to partner with the Aga Khan to build the Global Centre for Pluralism in Ottawa. This centre will promote ethnic, cultural and religious exchange and education - values that we hold dear as Canadians. I look forward to welcoming the Aga Khan back to Canada as an Honorary Citizen, and continuing to work closely with him to improve tolerance, pluralism and development around the world.”

Posted by Matthew Johnston

Posted by westernstandard on June 19, 2009 | Permalink

Comments

Canadian Citizenship has lost a lot of its lustre.

My family was here almost 100 years before confederation. We may be one of the only families that will be able to say, we've seen Canada come, and GO.

Posted by: dp | 2009-06-19 9:27:37 PM


“Closer to home, our Government is proud to partner with the Aga Khan to build the Global Centre for Pluralism in Ottawa. This centre will promote ethnic, cultural and religious exchange and education - values that we hold dear as Canadians"

I think its obvious by now that "Multi-Culturalism has worked very well as a tool of division...but soon we'll all be reunited as "Global Citizens" aka - Ants.
Get ready Canada, we're going Global. Being Canadian will no longer be a hallmark of pride as we become one big beige global taxpaying sheep.

"We shall have World Government, whether or not we like it. The only question is whether World Government will be achieved by conquest or consent." ~ James Paul Warburg

The task is to covertly lower the standard of living, the whole social structure, of America so that we can be merged with all other nations.
~ Rowan Gaither (Ford Chairman)

Bye Bye Free Canada.

Posted by: The original JC | 2009-06-20 8:22:25 AM


I am sitting a few feet away from a Security gaurd from Pakistan right now. He just said to me that the reason people there want to come here is not because we are a free nation...but because we are a "welfare state".
And that's how Globalism works.
Don't forget to vote and pay "your" taxes.

Posted by: The original JC | 2009-06-20 10:03:17 AM


I have met a few Ismaili's and I am of the opinion that they make a great contribution to Canada. Correct me if I am wrong, but they strike me as the Calvinists of Islam; diligent, hardworking, and interested in the creation of wealth. All welcome additions in my book.

Posted by: James | 2009-06-20 11:17:21 AM


That's nice James, but they'll cut your throat anyway.

Posted by: dp | 2009-06-20 11:31:35 AM


Correct me if I am wrong, but they strike me as the Calvinists of Islam;
Posted by: James | 2009-06-20 11:17:21 AM

Bwahahahahahahahahahaha. The three predominately Calvinist countries are Scotland, Holland and Switzerland. Do either of them remotely remind you of any muslim country? Those three relatively small countries have produced dozens if not hundreds of famous scientists, engineers, financiers who were pivotal in shaping the West. Can you give name a few muslims who have any significant positive impact on anything in the last 300 years?

BTW. The Aga Khan was born and still lives in Switzerland. Even he won't live in a muslim country.

Posted by: The Stig | 2009-06-20 8:39:49 PM


We are talking about Ismaili's not Muslims in general. Ismaili's are a minority of the muslim religion and are uniqie in a few distinct ways. They value volunteerism and humanitarianism and the Aga Khan often rejects aggressive verses of the Koran in favour of more pacifist interpretations.

Every Ismaili I have ever met has been a humble, tolerant, hard-working, honest, and contributing member of their community.

I described them as calvinists because every Ismaili I have ever met has been a solid business man who leverages his wealth to produce and create wealth for their community. I have nothing but respect for the Ismaili culture, they are contributing members of this society, and I think Harper was merely recognising that fact.

Posted by: James | 2009-06-21 1:23:36 PM


James, I don't believe you're for real.

Hardworking businessmen, who hire only muslims, and sell jerky that's way past its expiry date. Not my idea of a great contribution to this society.

Posted by: dp | 2009-06-21 1:38:11 PM


Every Ismaili I have ever met has been a humble,....
Posted by: James | 2009-06-21 1:23:36 PM

And how many would that be?

Aga Khan often rejects aggressive verses of the Koran in favour of more pacifist interpretations.
Posted by: James | 2009-06-21 1:23:36 PM

Often? So sometimes he doesn't? They bow down to mecca just like all other muslims. They aren't to be trusted.

Posted by: The Stig | 2009-06-21 1:41:00 PM


So how many of my tax dollars were blown on this f elation of a foreign dignitary PR stunt? What was the total tab 50? 60? 70K?

Posted by: Buddha Chan | 2009-06-21 3:58:35 PM


a few Ismaili muslims who have significant positive impact on anything in the last 300 years:

here is just a few:

Sir Sultan Mohamed Shah Agakhan III: President of League of Nations in the late 1930's
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aga_Khan_III

Sadrudin Agakhan - United Nations High Commisioner for Refugees 1966-1977
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Sadruddin_Aga_Khan

Ben Kingsley (actor)

Nadir Mohamed - current CEO of Rogers after working as head of the Rogers Cellular under Ted Rogers

Senator Mobina Jaffer - Canada's representative in Sudan

Rahim Jaffer former MP for Edmonton Stratcona for 10-15 yrs

John Nuraney - BC MLA for years until recently

Posted by: Hussein | 2009-06-21 10:30:20 PM


Hussein- Don't even go there. You want lists? The list of accomplished Jews will make your head spin. You know about Jews, right? They're the people you want to wipe off the face of the earth?

You throw seven names on here, and five of them are token politicians. Yahoo.

Posted by: dp | 2009-06-21 10:40:12 PM


Sir Sultan Mohamed Shah Agakhan III: President of League of Nations in the late 1930's:

...statist

Sadrudin Agakhan - United Nations High Commisioner for Refugees 1966-1977:

...statist

Ben Kingsley (actor):

...an actor, so probably a statist

Nadir Mohamed - current CEO of Rogers after working as head of the Rogers Cellular under Ted Rogers:

...hard to say. statist, or not a statist?

Senator Mobina Jaffer - Canada's representative in Sudan

... absolute, down the line statist

Rahim Jaffer former MP for Edmonton Stratcona for 10-15 yrs

...somewhat of a statist

John Nuraney - BC MLA for years until recently

...statist, but apparently not statist enough

~Hussein

gotta tell ya, doesn't look good from my end.

Posted by: shel | 2009-06-21 11:02:52 PM


you wanted a list of a few Ismaili muslims who have significant positive impact on anything in the last 300 years - that's what I gave you - not one had a negative impact here in Canada..What's your point? what would you prefer: statists or anarchists? Well Ismailis are not anarchists.
No one is questioning the contributions of other races and religions....

there is a lot of misinformation in the above posts. it's obvious many have preconceived views that muslims are bad...can't be trusted, they will cut your throat ???!! have some maturity...every group race, religion has it's bad apples....

I am an Ismaili muslim and I can say the following:

there are about 100,000 Ismaili Muslims in Canada and they are in all walks of like: doctors, teachers, univ professors, govt employees, and yes in business...those successful in busines hire persons of all races based on merit - how many ismailis do you see hired in Pan Pacific Hotel or Park Royal mall

Ismaili values include: generousity, charity, volunterism, looking after the aged, hard work, honesty, looking for ways to give to society positively, looking after the environment, helping persons in society regardless of the race of the person you are helping, contributing to a peaceful society, rejection of violence & drugs, belief in using one's intellect to solving problems, accepting persons of other races and religions.

Posted by: Hussein | 2009-06-21 11:56:42 PM


in response to dp's comments:

not every muslim thinks negatively of jews;
ismaili values include treating persons of all races equally and with respect; all forms of violence are rejected.

as an example see the following: Agakhan Trust
for Culture restores jewish synagogue http://ismailimail.wordpress.com/2007/11/04/afghanistan-historic-buildings-renovation/

Posted by: Hussein | 2009-06-22 12:04:42 AM


dp, stig, buddha chan.....broaden your horizons!!...your comments sound as extreme as the behaviour and actions of persons in extreme countries. In a highly global interrelated world..how long can a country like Canada live in isolation....the harsh reality is that Canada is forced to rely on immigration to have a healthy standard of living; you just have to read David Foot's analysis of Japan, Russia and Greece - declining birth rates results in lower standard of living.

Posted by: Hussein | 2009-06-22 12:17:11 AM


dp - if you have lived in Canada since 100 yrs before confederation - I am surprised you can make such comments as the one above...Have you met any Ismaili muslims?

Posted by: Hussein | 2009-06-22 12:27:10 AM


I would like to respond to dp as well.

"Hardworking businessmen, who hire only muslims, and sell jerky that's way past its expiry date. Not my idea of a great contribution to this society."

I worked for an Ismaili civil engineer with a masters degree. He employs christians, atheists, hindu's, philipino's. Basically he employs anyone who is hardworking and competent. He is by far the best boss I have ever worked for.

Further still, he is one of the best in his field, and has a reputation for finding the most efficient solutions to civil engineering problems. He is an example citizen for both the Ismaili community and Canadian society at large.

Your generalizations of Islam are incredibly ignorant. I hope you, and others like you, can one day take off the veil of ignorance and actually learn to take the measure of a man by the values he holds.

Yes, Ismaili's are muslum. Yes, some muslums want to kill you. Ismaili's want to live a peaceful and righteous life under god. Your refusal to accept that fact only shows how closed minded you are.

Posted by: James | 2009-06-22 12:27:25 AM


budha chan: your comment 'foreign dignitary'

at some point every person in Canada was a foreigner...

Posted by: Hussein | 2009-06-22 12:29:14 AM


Aga Kahn is neither Christ nor bin Laden. He is a great and respected human being. God bless him and his followers.

Posted by: Agha Ali Arkhan | 2009-06-22 12:51:31 AM


I say dp really needs a good "double penetration" dose of reality. His remarks are ignorant and extreme and are not reflective of the values held by Canadians.

I suggest that dp stop being a pompous ass and stop resting on the laurels of his family ancestry. Instead he should update his understanding of what it means to be a Canadian today. After all, it is values such as generosity, cultural pluralism, volunteerism, pragmatism and tolerance that have made Canada such a great country.

Thank you to the Aga Khan for accepting the offer of an honorary Canadian citizenship.

Posted by: U of A grad | 2009-06-22 1:47:53 AM


So, your little study group gets to define the meaning of being a Canadian? You haven't shed a drop of blood, or sweat for Canada. I spent some time looking at war memorials a couple of summers ago. I looked at thousands of names, and not once did I see the names Hussein, Mohammed, Ali, or any other such name. You've wormed your way into this country, and are eating away at its guts. Don't ever expect me to respect you, treat you as equals, hire you, work for you, socialize with you, or protect you.

Posted by: dp | 2009-06-22 9:22:03 AM


a few Ismaili muslims who have significant positive impact on anything in the last 300 years:
Posted by: Hussein | 2009-06-21 10:30:20 PM

The context of the question I asked was in the fields of medicine, engineering, science, etc. If the best you can come up with is three or four bureaucrats and an actor then I've proven my point. When push comes to shove your loyalties lie in mecca not here.

Posted by: The Stig | 2009-06-22 9:53:46 AM


Conditions for Canadian citizenship

1) Ontario born
2) Must have roots dating back 100 years or more.
3) White.
4) Christian
5) Rich (a moot point since all White Christian Toronto People are rich)
6) Liberal

No others need apply.

Posted by: Zebulon Pike | 2009-06-22 10:35:20 AM


I forgot to add: Anglo-Saxon or Celtic. Western European (French, German, Dutch, Scandinavian) are passable. Southern or Eastern European are unwelcome.

And when it comes to religion - Protestant or Catholic are acceptable (the latter is used to show how progressive they have become over the past 50 years). Jews - don't even think about it = extremely unwelcome in Toronto.

Posted by: Zebulon Pike | 2009-06-22 10:41:36 AM


"Ismaili values include: generousity, charity, volunterism, looking after the aged, hard work, honesty, looking for ways to give to society positively, looking after the environment, helping persons in society regardless of the race of the person you are helping, contributing to a peaceful society, rejection of violence & drugs, belief in using one's intellect to solving problems, accepting persons of other races and religions".

~Hussein

this point can't be argued. most people share these values. but i simply haven't seen the evidence that Muslims truly understand the Western concept of individual rights: rights protected not BY the state, but FROM the state. i don't believe you understand or accept the concept of private property rights and freedom of speech. these values are what advanced the Western world and made it the most free in history. i don't believe Muslims have even considered that the kneejerk reaction to a real or perceived offence or grievance doesn't need to be to turn to the caliphate.

"... belief in using one's intellect to solving problems".

really? prove it. if you believe this, you don't support HRCs. if you don't support HRCs, you understand everything i've just said, and i apologise. you have my respect. you know that life is sometimes unfair. we've all dealt with this.

if you support them however, you're supporting an organisation who's goal is to undermine and destroy what little liberty Canadian citizens have left.

"what would you prefer: statists or anarchists?"

liberty is anarchy? explain. a statist isn't as bad as an anarchist? i have to be either a statist or an anarchist? explain. i can tell from this statment that you just don't get it. you don't understand that in a constitutional democracy, some individual rights must be protected FROM statists and anarchists. some of these people you advocate in a preceding post are radicals. they are doing their best to undermine centuries of hard fought values going back to Magna Carta.

Posted by: shel | 2009-06-22 10:51:12 AM


The one stumbling block "they" can't find a way around is individual firearm ownership. If it weren't for this small difference between us, and most other countries, "they" would already be pushing for full control of our political system.

When the Japanese were forming their ambitious plan to control the world, they did not have any plans to invade North America. It had been decided that private gun ownership would make it too difficult to occupy our lands. They did not hesitate to occupy, murder, rape, and pillage China.

"They" are not forming mobs in North America, because they still aren't sure how we'll react, if pushed to the limit. Britain, Sweden, Denmark, and others have not been so fortunate.

This one small detail is where they plan to spend their energy. By supporting political candidates who push for gun confiscation, they believe they can remove the final roadblock to absolute political power. If they're successful, we can expect no generousity, no charity, and no mercy. It will be the end of Canada, as we built it.

Posted by: dp | 2009-06-22 11:25:01 AM


“your comments sound as extreme as the behaviour and actions of persons in extreme countries.”

Welcome to the Shotgun, Hussein.


“After all, it is values such as generosity, cultural pluralism, volunteerism, pragmatism and tolerance that have made Canada such a great country.”

I’m sorry grad, but no.
Looks like you were sleeping while Canada was made (forced upon).

Posted by: Marc | 2009-06-22 11:52:48 AM


Marc- I really wish I could have voted in those Quebec referendums. I want you gone every bit as much as you want to be gone. That goes for most real Canadians too, pepsi. Go, go, go, go, go. And take your jibberish soup labels with you.

Posted by: dp | 2009-06-22 12:20:26 PM


"I really wish I could have voted in those Quebec referendums"

Oh but you did, squarehead: by investing in golf balls, tv spots, numerous ads and bus trips.

You voted for The CPC, right ?
You've elected a leader that have worked on what's became the Clarity Act, which changed Canadian democracy and reject the international standards for referendum.

*

"They did not hesitate to occupy, murder, rape, and pillage..."

Perfect gentlemen, in other words...

Posted by: Marc | 2009-06-22 12:43:45 PM


"The one stumbling block "they" can't find a way around is individual firearm ownership".

~dp

yeah, i was going to mention gun rights as part of "the big three liberties", but didn't want to give him too much to chew on.

i think he's just learning now (i hope).

Posted by: shel | 2009-06-22 2:52:31 PM


~marc

.....ahh, why bother? you're the same welfare nationalist you were last year.

Posted by: shel | 2009-06-22 3:01:49 PM


His remarks are ignorant and extreme and are not reflective of the values held by Canadians.

Posted by: U of A grad | 2009-06-22 1:47:53 AM

Do Tell U of A Grad...just exactly what are Canadian Values anymore? I know for a fact they haven't been taught in schools for decades now...so where did you get yours?

In fact the latest version of "Canadian Values" turns our national anthem into an outright lie.

Posted by: The original JC | 2009-06-22 4:06:49 PM


Canadian Values = whatever the rich white Toronto liberal people say they are.

Posted by: Zebulon Pike | 2009-06-22 4:31:33 PM


Canadian Values = whatever the rich white Toronto liberal people say they are.

Posted by: Zebulon Pike | 2009-06-22 4:31:33 PM

Zeb your constant ignorant racist drone is obnoxiously boring. Its all you ever say. blah blah blah Ignorant white Torontonians blah blah blah...
Why don't you add some intelligence and eloquence when you're trying to make a point. You might actually draw some attention to "your" issue rather than being tuned out.

Posted by: The original JC | 2009-06-22 5:39:21 PM


Agreed, JC. Not many here know anything about Toronto, and most aren't interested. We have our own problems.

Posted by: dp | 2009-06-22 5:47:58 PM


dp says:

So, your little study group gets to define the meaning of being a Canadian? You haven't shed a drop of blood, or sweat for Canada. I spent some time looking at war memorials a couple of summers ago. I looked at thousands of names, and not once did I see the names Hussein, Mohammed, Ali, or any other such name.

response:
shows how little you know; thousands of Indians (in India) and Black Africans (from East Africa)
lost their lives fighting in Europe, Asia for the the British Empire - You can imagine the possible negative impact on British forces had imperial Japan invaded India. Most Indians and Africans who fought along side British forces lie in cemetries and unmarked graves in India and East Africa

As an example see the military record of Prince Aly Khan father of Agakhan IV in wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Aly_Khan:

In 1939, Prince Aly Aga Khan joined the French Foreign Legion and served with its cavalry division in Egypt and the Middle East. In 1940, he joined the Royal Wiltshire Yeomanry, becoming a lieutenant colonel in 1944. That same year, he participated in the Allied landing in the south of France with the United States Seventh Army, serving as a liaison officer with the rank of captain; for this, he was made an officer (military division) in the Legion of Honor in 1950.[7]He also was awarded the Croix de Guerre and the United States Bronze Star.[8]

dp you say:
You've wormed your way into this country, and are eating away at its guts.

response: funny this is what the First Nations collegues of mine say about all of us in Canada...??

dp says:
Don't ever expect me to respect you, treat you as equals, hire you, work for you, socialize with you, or protect you.

response: glad to know you are in the minority; a large portion ofthe cpp pension and govt services you receive/will receive are from the taxes paid by people of colour.

Posted by: Hussein | 2009-06-22 7:58:10 PM



shel says:
this point can't be argued. most people share these values. but i simply haven't seen the evidence that Muslims truly understand the Western concept of individual rights: rights protected not BY the state, but FROM the state. i don't believe you understand or accept the concept of private property rights and freedom of speech. these values are what advanced the Western world and made it the most free in history.

response:
yes,Ismaili muslim values include being loyal to the the country they reside in; being loyal to the system of government and to peace, and peaceful ways of resolving problems.
Ismailis do believe in private property rights; Ismailis believe in freedom of speech, to discuss, to express ideas, in constructive criticism but not destructive criticism - Agakhan Fund for Economic Developemnt owns the largest newspaper in East Africa - the daily nation
http://www.nation.co.ke/

In my opinion Ismailis believe that there are rights that need to be protected by the state; Ismailis do not believe that there are any rights that need to be protected FROM the Canadian state - chances are that if a group had such rights that need to be protected from the Canadian State - somembody such as you would say this group are extremists, fundamentalists, and so forth


Posted by: Hussein | 2009-06-22 8:27:33 PM


Hussein- How many of those Indians were muslims? Your ilk really believes that white Canadians are retarded, don't you? I wonder how we survived without your help? Show me some statistics on muslim contribution to the Allied effort.

Now kindly tell me where I can find the name mohammed on any Canadian war monument, or cemetary. I'll send you $100 if you can point one out.

People of colour are going to fund my retirement with their tax contribution? You really are an idiot. If you break down the net tax contribution by race/ethnicity, I'd just as soon rely on my own kind to fund my retirement. Of course, it's not PC to speak of such things.

I don't believe for a second that you have First Nations collegues.

As I said, I don't respect you on any level. I won't be responding to any more of your crap.

Posted by: dp | 2009-06-22 8:54:19 PM


In 1939, Prince Aly Aga Khan joined the French Foreign Legion and served with its cavalry division..........
Posted by: Hussein | 2009-06-22 7:58:10 PM

Didn't he serve along side that other famous military man Harland Sanders?

Posted by: The Stig | 2009-06-22 9:00:57 PM


That makes sense, Stig. Neither liked pork very much.

Posted by: dp | 2009-06-22 9:04:21 PM


dp/stig:
When I supply facts you dispute them and make fun. May I suggest you go and research this issue: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Aly_Khan:

In 1939, Prince Aly Aga Khan joined the French Foreign Legion and served with its cavalry division in Egypt and the Middle East. In 1940, he joined the Royal Wiltshire Yeomanry, becoming a lieutenant colonel in 1944. That same year, he participated in the Allied landing in the south of France with the United States Seventh Army, serving as a liaison officer with the rank of captain; for this, he was made an officer (military division) in the Legion of Honor in 1950.[7]He also was awarded the Croix de Guerre and the United States Bronze Star.[8]


dp says
How many of those Indians were muslims
Show me some statistics on muslim contribution to the Allied effort

response
approx 20% of the Indian Sub Contintent are muslims; see muslim contribution to the Indian army:
http://www.wokingmuslim.org/photos/is-rev-dec40-s.htm
there are tons of other efforts muslims made:
http://www.wrmea.com/archives/November_2008/0811053.html

also see:
http://www.defencejournal.com/sept99/martial-races.htm
On the eve of World War II almost 34,000 Punjabi Muslims were in the army (29 per cent) and during World War-II over 380,000 joined (about 14% of the total). No other class came close to these figures: Sikhs: 116,000, Gurkhas: 109,000, Muslims of other classes from UP, Deccan, Madras, Bengal, NWFP, etc 274,000, were recruited during 1939-1945. Muslims as a whole constituted a quarter of the Indian Army as of 1947 9....

There were no muslims in Canada in 1940 - so how can you find their names on Canadian war monuments

dp said:
If you break down the net tax contribution by race/ethnicity, I'd just as soon rely on my own kind to fund my retirement. Of course, it's not PC to speak of such things.

response
the canadian govt does not break down net tax contribution by race - so the prosperity you see - roads, jobs, health services, amount of cpp pension, municipal services comes from contributions by persons of all races; immigration contributes to this prosperity for all of us - you just have to compare Canada with
Russia and Japan where there are declining birth rates and no net immigration.

dp:
I don't believe for a second that you have First Nations collegues.

response
maybe tough for you to believe - but I talk to them every month; I make it a point
to socialize with persons of all races and religions. In graduate school my thesis was signed off by a muslim and a jew.

with respect to muslim achievements; not all persons can do exceptional things in the fields of medicine, engineering, science such as that by Einstein etc; Ismaili muslims just believe in leading a honest, ethical, hardworking life and making contributions to society; the annual partnership walk raising funds for the disadvantaged is one example
see http://www.worldpartnershipwalk.com/

Posted by: Hussein | 2009-06-22 11:27:19 PM


Immigrants have built Canada and immigrants of all colours and nationalities will continue to build Canada. This is regardless of racist and extreme mutterings of people such as dp and others who unfortunately choose to rest on odious aboriginal-squashing laurels of their family ancestry.

Canada is fortunately a democracy that embraces cultural pluralism, not a decrepit feudal country run by narrow-minded ideological extremists such as dp.

Blinded by his ideological and idiotic rage, I don't think dp will ever change his narrow-minded views. This will continue even when he is old and in a nursing home with immigrant care aides changing his soiled adult diapers so that he can maintain some dignity.

Posted by: U of A grad | 2009-06-23 12:58:18 AM


Also dp, remember that many immigrants CHOSE to come to Canada. Hence they are Canadians by choice. You are a Canadian merely by accident of birth. It follows that New Canadians have a far better right to call themselves Canadian than you do.

Posted by: U of A grad | 2009-06-23 1:10:31 AM


Rather backward logic U of A fag. My ancestors were involved in the formation of Canada. We chose the style of government, the legal system, and the direction of the new nation. We did the hard work of developing the industries, we fought in the wars, and our labours produced the wealthy nation before you. We chose to come to a new world, and we built a country from scratch. Did you think we were just laying around, and a country suddenly materialized around us? Typical raghead comment. Not a fucking clue what you're saying, it just blurts out.

Speaking of nursing homes, I've already made a pact with my kids. If I get any physical abuse from any cheap foreign labour, my boys are going to smuggle a 38 special in to me. A couple of you scum won't be at the next anti-Israel demonstration.

Posted by: dp | 2009-06-23 11:35:45 AM


Seems to be a lot of bad neighbour fence building on this blog. Please try not to let stupidity spiral out of control.

Posted by: Agha Ali Arkhan | 2009-06-23 11:45:37 AM


Can someone please give an example of modern Ismaili's blowing up schools or hospitals or churchs?

Truth is they just don't do it. They are too busy contributing to their new countries.

Posted by: James | 2009-06-23 12:41:33 PM


I would suggest this article as a good summary of the Aga Khan's and the Ismaili communities stance on terrorism.

http://www.thecitizen.com/node/10948

Ismaili's have been terrorized for being SO supportive of western ideas like property rights, freedom, personal resonsibility. We need to have the ability to distinguish between our friends and foes. The Ismaili's are certainly friends of the west.

Posted by: James | 2009-06-23 12:51:30 PM


Okay James, that's fine. But when someone say's my family has less claim on Canada than new immigrants, there's going to be trouble.

Talk about stupidity;

Coming here, and assuming we're going to adjust to your interests is stupid.

Thinking you can push people without ever being pushed back is stupid.

Thinking that Canadians will never question the policy of welfare immigration is stupid.

Making threats against senior citizens in institutions is not only stupid, it's an abomination. Only a filthy animal would do that. Pray you never meet me face to face.

Thinking your society is superior to mine is very stupid. If Britain hadn't struck oil, you'd still be living in the 17th century. Your society had been stagnant for a thousand years.

You might be able to gang up on some blog site, but you all know where you stand out on my street.

Posted by: dp | 2009-06-23 1:18:34 PM


That is exactly the point, the Ismaili's are adjusting to western life because they believe in it's major tenets. It is imperitive that we recognize that.

I agree that we should not change our values to suit immigrant populations. However, we should also avoid unjustly discriminating against immigrants who truly want to live in a western society. The Aga Khan lives in Switzerland for a reason.

Posted by: James | 2009-06-23 1:29:07 PM



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