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Friday, February 27, 2009

Raids on medical marijuana will end

Western Standard general manager Kalim Kassam blogged a while ago on Obama's promise to respect states' rights in that he would respect the laws of states who have passed legislation to legalize the medical use of pot.

Yesterday, Attorney General of the United States Eric Holder announced that federal raids on licensed medical marijuana dispensaries will end.

Holder said Obama's campaign promise to stop the raids is "now American policy."

No word yet on whether or not this will start translating into pardons for those imprisoned on charges related to selling or using medical marijuana.

Posted by Janet Neilson on February 27, 2009 | Permalink

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So, the price of pot in the compassion clubs should tumble by 90% overnight and all crime associated with med MJ in california cease immediately after breakfast..its just a plant, it should just cost 5 cents per gram with the legal risks swept away

This in effect is the end of Prohibition there, so lets watch to see what happens.

Posted by: 419 | 2009-02-27 9:08:16 AM


I'd like to know why marijuana is getting such special treatment. It is not part of the pharmacopoeia, having been removed for reasons still valid today; its efficacy has not been ; and it has not passed the stringent requirements that every other drug sold to the public must pass. Neither the AMA nor the FDA support the use of marijuana as medicine. Any other drug that was pushed onto the public in such flagrant disregard of established procedures would be a multi-billion-dollar lawsuit waiting to happen.

So I'll ask again--why the unprecedented exception, for a drug of unproven efficacy, a drug that also happens to be the recreational tripper's drug of choice, and the one first smoked in large numbers by the very generation currently making public policy?

Posted by: Shane Matthews | 2009-02-27 9:28:30 AM


so much for the wisdom of the Native People who make decisions based on how outcomes will affect their people seven generations into the future..

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Posted by: 419 | 2009-02-27 2:07:17 PM


I guess we'll have to send the noble police service after you people for something else now.

Posted by: Zebulon Pike | 2009-02-27 2:25:41 PM


quasi legal medical marijuana arrives in California -just in time for that state is cracking down hard on all forms of smoking,

coming soon- medical tobacco featuring holistic cigars

Posted by: 419 | 2009-02-27 3:17:18 PM


Holder said Obama's campaign promise to stop the raids is "now American policy."

Ahh....why not. Like every other prohibition this one has'nt worked either. Time to start picking on the obese and real serious things, like second hand fat. Since we live in a world where everyone is now minding everyone elses business and no matter what you enjoy there is some lobby against it, fat seems like the next obvious choice. As long as we can look down on some other group for their nasty habits we can maintain our air of superiority. It is good to be pure.

Posted by: peterj | 2009-02-27 11:33:51 PM


I don't know, Peter...something tells me that if Doritos were outlawed tomorrow, we wouldn't see a spike in property crime caused by fatsos holding up convenience stores to buy their junk food on the black market.

Posted by: Shane Matthews | 2009-02-27 11:51:55 PM


Shane
"by fatsos holding up convenience stores to buy their junk food on the black market".
I laughed but on sober second thought, there is certainly a strong lobby to eliminate junk food altogether. There is no end to the number of activists that know what is good for us.

Posted by: peterj | 2009-02-28 1:17:12 PM


Agreed, Peter; the world is filled with busybodies. That said, regulation of each product is a balancing act. Does junk food kill? No, but it can shorten your life if you abuse it AND don't exercise it off. Ditto alcohol (you really have to work at this one and tobacco (only way to mitigate its effects is to stop using it).

However, none of those products is psychotropic. Alcohol is a simple CNS depressant and the perfect de-inhibitor, but it make you high. Tobacco has a mild calming effect, but again, not a true mood alterer, and ditto for junk food.

Most illicit drugs, including marijuana, are mood alterers. They can make you see things, hear things. They can cause intense paranoia or other psychotic interludes. The gateway effect of marijuana is well known. And it has even less medical usefulness than even more powerful drugs like narcotics and cocaine.

Not many people turn into feral predators to procure more pot, but for heroin and other hard drugs, you bet. Up to 80% of Vancouver's crime is estimated to be junkies stealing to feed their habit. And this figure would not change substantially if heroin were legalized, because it would still cost money, and junkies don't have any.

In short, the cons of marijuana outweigh the pros. The doctors who deleted it from the pharmacopoeia in 1942 realized this, having no motive to lie about it. Today's pot culture has every reason to lie about it, and frequently does. Unless and until some true use for marijuana can redress this balance, there's no point in legalizing it. And you still have an entire planet to convince.

Posted by: Shane Matthews | 2009-02-28 2:28:53 PM


Legalization would provide another sponge for my tax dollars as we treat the lung and other diseases caused by smoking weed. Bad enough it is your God given right to pollute your lungs and body and then live off the taxpayer as you wheeze into eternity.

Better to spend my tax dollars warehousing the addicted and keeping them off the streets and out of my house.

Now if I could just reconcile the 2 billion on the gun registry with the OK corral happenings on a weekly basis. My tax dollars don't seem to be working very hard there....

Posted by: thecossack | 2009-03-01 1:06:19 PM


Okay Shane, tobacco has a powerful effect on your brain, it is highly addictive and leads to cancer. Alcohol certainly has its following of addicts, but society understands with freedom comes some costs. Regulation is the prefered method if cost to benefit relationship is important. In a place like North Korea the cost of prohibition is very low, its just not worth it to the smugglers. In California the cost includes the lives of thousands of Mexicans and billions of dollars. This is the cost of prohibition, to you it is worth it. Many others feel that Adults in a free society can live peacefully with others that are free to grow or purchase a plant from which they take some happiness out of using responsibly. Those that manage to use marijuana irresponsibly will be less of a percentage than with Alcohol. This is a good time to think clearly; this is the United States, we can handle freedom. Please, it's less expensive and we don't look like fools to our founding fathers.

Posted by: Rubblebeam | 2009-03-01 6:10:39 PM


wow! citizen Rubblebeam you just sat there and made that all up-- heres your award for " best new fiction " with a flag at the end. whew.. what are Americans, a different species than the rest of the human race ?

Snap out out it--you are making lame excuses for why your brain & CNS is addicted to cannibinoids.

Prohibition is affordable, and do able
surrendering to criminal enterprise is not

Posted by: 419 | 2009-03-01 7:05:30 PM


Legalization would provide another sponge for my tax dollars as we treat the lung and other diseases caused by smoking weed. Bad enough it is your God given right to pollute your lungs and body and then live off the taxpayer as you wheeze into eternity.

Posted by: thecossack | 2009-03-01 1:06:19 PM

A problem with socialized medicine, not with anyone's choice to smoke.

The mentality that other peoples' choices are costing us money and therefore we must control those choices is the reason that I am actually concerned that there is a non-zero chance that I will lose the ability to buy sugary, greasy or otherwise unhealthy foods legally before I die.

Posted by: Janet | 2009-03-04 12:19:27 PM


Rubblebeam,

Tobacco has a powerful effect on your brain? Apart from creating a craving for more nicotine, what is that effect, exactly? Does it alter your perception of time and space? Does it slow your reaction time? Screw with your fine motor control? Cause hallucinations or psychotic breaks? Has anyone ever actually OD'd on it? You wish. That would make your argument easier, wouldn't it?

Alcohol is tolerated because taken in moderation it's perfectly safe even to drive a vehicle afterward and has a long tradition in European cultures. Yes it can be abused but most people don't. And OD-ing on alcohol is actually pretty hard. A man my size would have to drink forty shots of rum in less an hour to have a decent shot at alcohol poisoning.

But anyone who takes powerful psychoactive drugs without a prescription, according to the dosages given on said prescription, is abusing them. And just so you know, drugs like narcotics and marijuana are not prohibited but already regulated. All are available with a prescription, at least in this country. Unless you want to argue that we shouldn't bother with the doctor/prescription thing at all.

Also, like most pot advocates, you insist on placing the blame for drug crime on the lawman. The blame belongs with those who create the market for the drugs, the user. It is the user who pays the criminal for his drugs. If no one bought drugs, the criminals would not sell drugs. But a drug user is perfectly content to have his high floated to him across a lake of blood. Because he is that selfish.

It's always a good time to think clearly. It's never a good time to make a change just because someone else says it is. Anytime some advert or publicist or activist crows that "now is the time" for something, I just tune them out. Because the decision when it's time me to act is mine alone.

Posted by: Shane Matthews | 2009-03-04 1:08:18 PM


There's always a non-zero chance of anything, Janet.

Posted by: Shane Matthews | 2009-03-04 1:09:24 PM



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