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Tuesday, February 24, 2009
Pot and taxes
Could the economic crisis, and its subsequent impact on state revenues, result in outright pot legalization, as opposed to only for medicinal use, and hence taxation? California may lead the way. (h/t Drudge)
Posted by Moin A Yahya on February 24, 2009 | Permalink
Will economic hard times cause pot to be legalized in Canada?
.. if this was Haiti maybe, but as its not- Canada has more going for it than to go full tilt Wipehead hillbilly.
Posted by: 419 | 2009-02-24 5:06:43 PM
Actually, Moin, legalizing pot would require the United States to turn its back on several international drug treaties signed by a number of nations. In fact, a recent UN report has chastised the tentative direction toward legalization some North American jurisdictions are taking. Part of the reason California is at loggerheads with the Federal Government is that the Feds are bound by the treaty, whereas California is not.
And what a surprise, the proposal comes from a San Franciscan. Californians may boast about how their state "always leads the way," but what they haven't noticed is that very often the other 49 states don't follow. Because not every American is an agnostic hedonist.
Posted by: Shane Matthews | 2009-02-24 6:46:26 PM
Oh yeah as if drug growers would actually pay taxes on their products. They'd find a way around it. Listen to their ideology: they oppose any gov't intrustion. To believe that they would suddenly become respectable citizens is a fallacy.
Round them up, put them in camps until they are 'rehabilitated'.
Posted by: Zebulon Pike | 2009-02-24 7:10:34 PM
I hope you're right, Moin. It would be good to see an end to the mindless violence, and the mindless opposition to individual liberty.
Posted by: P.M. Jaworski | 2009-02-24 9:32:11 PM
PMJ, I agree. I would add that the depth and breadth of the reach of the IRS or CRA is so great that criminal justice pales in comparison. For those so concerned about justice, why not unleash the full force of the state?
Posted by: TM | 2009-02-24 10:25:27 PM
why not unleash the full force of Superman while you're at it ?
Posted by: 419 | 2009-02-25 1:09:27 AM
419, you are funny. Have you ever been audited, or know anyone who has been?
As you know, with the CRA you are guilty until proven innocent. Their powers are broad and sweeping. You can be arrested. Your bank accounts can be accessed or frozen. The CRA does not require (the police do) things such as reasonable cause, and search warrants. Not to mention that whole innocent until proven guilty thing.
Any dealings with the CRA will remind you very quickly of the power of the state.
Posted by: TM | 2009-02-25 12:23:43 PM
P.M., violence is arguably just another act of individual liberty; i.e., "My right to swing my fist does not stop at your head, because any such constraint would place a limit on my liberty." Conversely, if you agree to limit liberty to those actions that do not affect others, then you open the door to all sorts of conditions and stipulations, including the restriction of unsupervised access to dangerously potent substances.
You can't take something vulgar, base, or even evil, and make it something good, noble, or even just tolerable, by stamping the word "liberty" on it. That is one-dimensional thinking, and really, such simplemindedness is beneath you.
Posted by: Shane Matthews | 2009-02-25 12:43:57 PM
California is already leading the way into decline and has become pretty much a "has been" with their major tax base leaving in droves. It seems their politicians are just too taken with whatever the latest wacky trend is.
Posted by: Alain | 2009-02-25 7:15:44 PM
And in the other corner we have the "munchie" lobby pressing for the right to smoke pot. This will really annoy the health nuts that are fighting obesity and anything else you may enjoy.
This will be fun to watch. Even better than Prop.8 was. Since California has more wingnuts than the rest of the country combined, my money is on the millions in new taxes that legal pot would generate. Finally...some real entertainment.
Posted by: peterj | 2009-02-26 8:41:45 PM
There will be no windfall from legalizing drugs. Druggies are anti-government and will not suddenly become respectable citizens no matter what they say. The only ways to make people pay taxes is cooperation, coercion or both. The druggies will find ways to avoid paying taxes. All that would change, therefore, is replace the law used to punish druggies. If that's the case, then why bother legalizing. We can still persecute them as vigorously as before, which is a good thing.
Posted by: Zebulon Pike | 2009-02-26 9:24:56 PM
e say every Canadian Province runs their own lottery " Drugs for Life"-every wipehead who buys a $100 ticket , has to register with the Feds,, ha ha watch the lineups go around the block..One draw per month where one lucky registered stoner per draw receives "drugs for life" - their choice of drugs-- all winners agree to appear live on web cam 24/7 so we can all watch the effects of legal drug use. This would be a lab experiment to demonstrate how successful lifting drug prohibition would be should society weaken and give into the Wipehead perogative..
1,000,000 tickets @ $100 each x 12 draws per year is a lot of easy money for the prohibitionist magority .. "drugs for life " would be very educational - tax payers could see exactly what happens to someone on legal drugs with their own eyes..
>> And with unrestricted access to dangerous drugs, the winners life span would likely be very very short-All winners would be responsible for their own medical assistance and funeral arrangements
-It would not be affordable on every level to operate this program and the payoff for society would be terrific.. As the swelling hoards of irrational angry dopefiends would more than likely cheat any taxation system installed to collect revenus on any future legal drugs ": Drugs for Life" is a way for straight people to get at that billion dollar dope bonanza quickly, completely and accountably--.. and come off as forward thinking liberals.
Posted by: 419 | 2009-02-26 10:22:08 PM
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Posted by: Buddha Chan | 2009-02-27 7:04:41 PM
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