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Saturday, January 24, 2009
US gun sales are up on economic and Obama-related fears
Posted by Matthew Johnston
Posted by westernstandard on January 24, 2009 | Permalink
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Heck I'm buying guns because if Obama gets the AWB back on the books and closes the "gun show loophole" (you know the one that lets people sell guns to each other or will them to their kids) then Canada has NO hope for more resonable guns laws. Canadians simply feel too smug about being progressive on "gun violence" and if XYZ is banned in the states we certainly can't have it here!
Expect Canada style bans in the states and UK or Australia style bans in Canada. And just like in the UK and Australia expect increases in violent crime.
Posted by: Pete | 2009-01-24 11:11:58 PM
Actually, Pete, there are a few things gun-related you can have in Canada that you CAN'T have in the States. Among them is weapons over 50 calibre, shotguns larger than 8 gauge, and the ability to carry a gun in the bush at any time of year, no matter the season. For instance, you can carry a gun for bear defence while you're bowhunting deer. That's illegal in many U.S. jurisdictions. Hollowpoints are also legal in Canada, while they are illegal in New Jersey, but then again that's a state that won't even let you pump your own gas.
Posted by: Shane Matthews | 2009-01-25 12:19:12 AM
People are buying guns in response to the government stimulated economic collapse they see coming and also the gun control they beleive the Messiah will implement...Good!
Its time the government feared the people, not the other way around.
Posted by: JC | 2009-01-25 7:01:26 AM
PS, Canadian gun sales are up too. Again...good!
Posted by: JC | 2009-01-25 7:08:20 AM
Scary stuff.
BTW Shane, Bow hunting Deer should be abolished, it's inhumane. Any Forester can relate to many of those poor animals seen with arrows in them from wannabe Robin Hoods.
If Canadian gun sales are up that's gotta be Mayor Miller of Moronto's worse nightmare.
Posted by: LizJ | 2009-01-25 8:00:31 AM
Oops, that should read "worst" nightmare.
Posted by: LizJ | 2009-01-25 8:01:26 AM
People are buying guns because they do not trust
the Holy O. And nor should they. He is and was
a total fraud and worse. Google Larry Sinclair.
He is just Brezinsky's puppet and will bring in
awful things. I think the real people of America can sense that. That is why sales are up.
They know that this puppet and the people behind him are up to no good in a grand scale.
I would like to ask the news industry and the "government", just what IS IT, about the people
having the ability to PROTECT THEMSELVES, that you
FEAR SO MUCH?
They are professional liars, so even if they answered, they would lie. But the truth is, they want to use and control us completely.
Guns equals independence, and they can't have that.
God bless the 2nd Amendment.
It is the only thing that stops them from crushing the people.
Even if all the guns were confiscated and ammo cost a mint, you can bet your life that criminals
would still have them to terroize the public.
And the police state that would exist, would
be right up there, with the criminals, doing their
best to terrorize the public.
It will just happen that way. It always does.
Hitler, Stalin, you name it.
It's always the same.
Rant over.
Posted by: JD | 2009-01-25 8:04:47 AM
Liz, how much do you know about hunting? Not very much, I'll bet, otherwise you'd know better then to perpetuate the old fable "bowhunting is inhumane." Every argument that can be made against bowhunting can be made against fishing--and in neither case do they hold water.
Modern hunting broadheads are extremely sharp, much sharper than a surgeon's scalpel. So sharp, in fact, that there is no initial pain. If it's a lethal shot you simply pass out in half a minute or so from loss of blood. If it's not a lethal shot, one of two things happens. Either it hits bone and stops, after which the animal soon shakes it loose and chalks it up among the frequent minor injuries that are the lot of any wild animal, or it's a complete pass-through. Arrows may stick in armoured knights, but not deer. And complete recovery from a bad arrow shot is much more likely than from a bad rifle shot.
Know what the leading cause of death among deer is? Starvation. If you manage to avoid that, you succuumb to disease, accidents, exposure, fighting, or being devoured alive by predators whose idea of a clean kill is one that can be made without guts sticking to their fur. Not many wild animals die of old age. But because all of this unpleasantness happens out of sight, it doesn't exist in most people's eyes.
"Moronto"?
Posted by: Shane Matthews | 2009-01-25 12:32:53 PM
I happen to think bow hunting is inhumane but as you have guessed, I know very little about hunting, not something of interest to me. However, I am always concerned about cruelty to animals.
Now that you have educated me, perhaps I can be taken off the Moron list.
Posted by: LizJ | 2009-01-25 12:57:59 PM
No offence, Liz, but what one THINKS does not matter. It only matters what one knows. If one knows nothing, it's usually better say nothing. A strong feeling, by itself, is justification for nothing.
Hunters are also extremely concerned about cruelty to animals. Nothing spoils a hunt like the knowledge that you've wounded and lost an animal. It leaves a foul taste no balm can erase. Hunters don't hate animals (except maybe varmints); on the contrary, they respect them.
In fact, they often respect them more than the average urbanite. A hunter views an animal as the natural order of things, a noble, free, and wild creature with an ecological role to play, whereas city dwellers seem to regard them more as pets whose sole function, like that of Nature itself, is to provide them with pleasure and amusement. But the woods are not a theme park.
Posted by: Shane Matthews | 2009-01-25 1:20:23 PM
Happy hunting Shane. I never would have guessed "the woods are not a theme park".
Thanks also for informing us what one "THINKS" doesn't matter. I'm sure a lot of people will be surprised to hear that one.
Posted by: LizJ | 2009-01-25 2:23:53 PM
... perhaps fears of Detroit or Los Angeles race riots.
There is a "tongue-in-cheek" a humorous article (... sorry can't find it )about the demise of Detroit under successive corrupt black mayors , and the author who is Jewish stated ..."the Jews bought guns , the whites bought ammunition".
Posted by: Brian | 2009-01-25 4:34:04 PM
Shane- Just got back from Sask., and just east of Medicine Hat I saw three herds of mule deer of around 100 each. This cold weather is sending them closer to farmyards, and cattle feed. You know what the most inhumane death for a deer really is? Being clumsily ripped to pieces by a couple of big friendly dogs. They usually don't get the job finished, and the deer ends up freezing to death in a day or so.
Posted by: dp | 2009-01-25 6:34:51 PM
I don't think people are buying guns at a rate recently increased by 300% +/- in order to go hunting.
Posted by: JC | 2009-01-25 7:07:39 PM
At the risk of violating Godwin's Law, Liz, let me give you an example. Hitler THOUGHT he was making the world a better place. But was he? No. Because his policies were based on emotion, not logic. This was the inevitable result of building a political base by playing on people's resentment.
Belief requires no proof, is beholden to no logic, cannot be held to any objective standard, and does not have to be reasonable, or even sane. That's why sound policy is based on knowledge instead. Unfortunately, more than one observer has noted that when emotion walks in the door, logic leaves by the window.
You have a belief based on a feeling; I have knowledge based on research and experience. Yet in a democracy, your vote counts for just as much as mine. To vote in ignorance is your right. It does not make it prudent, wise, or proper. There's a difference between what you're *allowed* to do and what it's *appropriate* for you to do.
Posted by: Shane Matthews | 2009-01-25 9:05:32 PM
I dunno, dp; starving to death is a pretty shitty way to end your days. It takes weeks, sometimes months if you manage to find just enough food to delay the inevitable. You're right about the dogs, though. At least a wolf has the professionalism to eat the dear after he disembowels it.
By the way, those deer must be pretty weak already, possibly on the brink of starvation, for the dogs to be able to catch them at all. A healthy deer can easily outdistance any number of dogs, or even horses for that matter, unless surrounded. That's why wolves hunt in packs, surrounding the prey before moving in for the kill.
Posted by: Shane Matthews | 2009-01-25 9:19:52 PM
Although I do have hope for Obama, I can't help but think that he's destined to become another Jimmy Carter. He has no experience in governance; he's never been a governor. While his intentions seem genuinely good, that by itself is not enough, as Carter learned to his cost.
Posted by: Shane Matthews | 2009-01-25 9:22:13 PM
Although hunting with guns or bows was not the topic, I wish to thank Shane for explaining the facts. I agree that bow hunting is not cruel and furthermore it is unlikely that any real bow-hunter left deer wounded.
Back to the topic I am just wondering how long it will take the chattering class and MSM to inform us that it is a bunch of White supremacists and right-wing zealots who are purchasing these guns. I have already heard the statement that Obama will be assassinated before the end of his term because Americans are so racist.
Posted by: Alain | 2009-01-25 10:08:42 PM
Alain, I think you are right about the MSM. They tend to paint pictures as opposed to report facts.
The various Minutemen organizations around the US for instance are a bunch of gun freak rednecks right? I don't believe that but a lot of people do. And I think if (when) Obama is assasinated it will be by a deranged lone "black" gunman. Just to confuse the hell out of everyone.
Posted by: JC | 2009-01-26 5:40:44 PM
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