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Thursday, December 04, 2008

Liberals could cut Dion loose early if he doesn't pull off coalition government.

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I posted last night on Guelph Liberal MP Frank Valeriote's discomfort with the Liberal-NDP-Bloc coalition to form government, but today the Globe and Mail is reporting that Dion's problems may only be beginning. (Or... er... beginning again.)

In fact, as rumours of discontent with the proposed coalition and Dion's leadership are popping up, so are rumours that he could be cut loose before May if he can't pull it off:

A caucus insider said there is growing unease in the party with the accord reached between the Liberals, the NDP and the Bloc Québécois as Prime Minister Stephen Harper's Tories mount a public-relations war against the coalition, which they are characterizing as an alliance with the separatists.

One Liberal MP said that if Mr. Dion does not prevail and become leader and prime minister of the proposed coalition government, “he can't stay until May.”

Apparently (and understandably) the fiasco last night surrounding Dion's video address to the nation has made matters worse within the Liberals' caucus, and we can only presume that Jack Layton's attempt to seek time to speak independently of the coalition leader will lead to some toes feeling rather stepped on as well.

Maybe proroguing parliament is Harper's best move after all.


(For those who are curious, the photo displayed here is actually a photo taken while Dion gave his address last night. Far as I can tell, they must have shot it from 3 feet away from his face and above eye level, as the shelf we can only partially see over his shoulders was the one dominating the shot in the video. What a disaster.)

Posted by Janet Neilson on December 4, 2008 in Canadian Politics | Permalink

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I have to laugh at all the big ciddy political experts sputtering that the Koolaid Koalition has the right to seize power in Ottawa thru the Gov General.
This Koolaid Koalition is going to go absolutely nowhere.

And it will be because of the GG, if she understands her job.

It is the duty of the GG of Canada to 'ensure that Canada has a prime minister and govt in place.'

It is also her duty to 'promote our national identity and unity'.

To get her job as GG, she had to swear allegiance to the country of Canada and she cannot change that allegiance after getting into office.

So all the BS put out by the anti-Harper political twits have omitted the fact that the GG cannot, under any circumstance, take the power of govt away from the legitimate, duly elected, sitting govt, which is only 12 seats short of a majority, and give it to the unstable, temporary Koolaid Koalition which has as a member, a political party dedicated to the breakup of Canada.

That is specifically in her job description.

And BTW, the oath of allegiance is exactly the reason that the Bloc did not sign the same agreement that the Libs and the ND did and why they will not be a formal part of the cabinet.
This way they don't have to swear allegiance to uphold the laws of Canada, and they still have veto power.

But the GG does. She doesn't have any choice but to do what PM Harper wants with NO conditions attached because of the Bloc's involvement in the Koalition.

Pack your bags Pompous Jack Ego, you're heading for another election in 2009, if you vote down the Harper Budget.

Posted by: Rocky Thompson | 2008-12-04 7:38:35 AM


God help us, literally. I just hope that our Liberal-appointed, ex-CBC-journalist Governor General will make a totally neutral and unbiased decision.

Posted by: Joel K. | 2008-12-04 9:10:08 AM


So all the BS put out by the anti-Harper political twits have omitted the fact that the GG cannot, under any circumstance, take the power of govt away from the legitimate, duly elected, sitting govt, which is only 12 seats short of a majority, and give it to the unstable, temporary Koolaid Koalition which has as a member, a political party dedicated to the breakup of Canada.

Posted by: Rocky Thompson | 4-Dec-08 7:38:35 AM

This paragraph completely ignores the Canadian Constitution. You can disagree with it if you'd like (lots of people do), but if you're just talking about what the rules are, it's pretty clear that the opposition can take power if a minority government loses the confidence of the House. They would be able to do it if they were even one seat short of a majority. (Assuming floor crossings didn't happen first.)

You could argue that if we were to follow the letter of the law the GG would have reason to reject anything involving the separatists, but by precedent we're talking about a party that was Her Majesty's Official Opposition back when they were a lot more serious about seperation. Jean might be able to use the fact that seperatists would break up the country as reasoning to call an election rather than allowing the coalition government but whether or not she would is up in the air for good reason.

On a related note, please stop putting "K" where it doesn't belong. If you could also refrain from using "LIEberals" (yawn) as an alternative, that would be cool, too.

Posted by: Janet Neilson | 2008-12-04 12:13:41 PM


God help us, there's treason in America. hdeanberry.com

Posted by: Dean Berry | 2008-12-04 12:29:09 PM


Three Big Dumb Ciddy noses getting out of joint?
You want to run a tight ship here?
Ok by me.

I'm afraid you are wrong Janet.
The GG has sworn to uphold the laws of Canada and allegiance to the country of Canada.

Do you really think that throwing the keys to the Canadian Cadillac to a group containing a political party who only aim in life is to destroy Canada is a good way to protect Canada?
You may like that view but the GG cannot do it

The frequently quoted Bing/King affair has no relevance to this because both of those parties willingly swore allegiance to Canada.
The Bloc will not.
How much more simple can it get?

The GG's job to protect Canada is clear.

Posted by: Rocky Thompson | 2008-12-04 1:25:35 PM


Rocky, you piqued my interest, so I asked someone who knows more than me. Here's what she had to say:

"The GG could not deny the coalition the keys to government on the basis that the separatists aren't loyal to Her Majesty as in order to be sworn-in as Members of Parliament, they have to swear an Oath to Her Majesty and her legal Heirs and Successors. Therefore, the GG would have to take them at their oath."

Apparently, that's how much more simple it can get. Thanks for askin'!

Posted by: Janet Neilson | 2008-12-05 9:22:08 AM



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