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Thursday, November 27, 2008

Giving the gift of 'choice'

Celebrate Christ's birth by, well, terminating a pregnancy.

Posted by Terry O'Neill on November 27, 2008 in Current Affairs | Permalink


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...why not, they aborted the meaning of Christmas.

Posted by: tomax7 | 2008-11-27 9:02:47 AM

Christ's birth? Christmas has always been as much a secular holiday as a Christian one. Besides, if God really minds what people are giving for Christmas, he always has the power to smite them. Maybe he has better things to do.

Posted by: Fact Check | 2008-11-27 9:11:42 AM

Christmas goes back 2,000 years, Fact Check. Have you got proof of its secular aspect from, say, 398 A.D.?

Posted by: Shane Matthews | 2008-11-27 10:02:39 AM

Christmas goes back 2,000 years, Fact Check. Have you got proof of its secular aspect from, say, 398 A.D.?

Posted by: Shane Matthews | 27-Nov-08 10:02:39 AM

I am not FactCheck and I know you are a bit.... well dense when it comes to things that don't fit in your view of the world, but I try anyway:


The middle of winter has long been a time of celebration around the world. Centuries before the arrival of the man called Jesus, early Europeans celebrated light and birth in the darkest days of winter. Many peoples rejoiced during the winter solstice, when the worst of the winter was behind them and they could look forward to longer days and extended hours of sunlight.
In Scandinavia, the Norse celebrated Yule from December 21, the winter solstice, through January. In recognition of the return of the sun, fathers and sons would bring home large logs, which they would set on fire. The people would feast until the log burned out, which could take as many as 12 days. The Norse believed that each spark from the fire represented a new pig or calf that would be born during the coming year.
The end of December was a perfect time for celebration in most areas of Europe. At that time of year, most cattle were slaughtered so they would not have to be fed during the winter. For many, it was the only time of year when they had a supply of fresh meat. In addition, most wine and beer made during the year was finally fermented and ready for drinking.
In Germany, people honored the pagan god Oden during the mid-winter holiday. Germans were terrified of Oden, as they believed he made nocturnal flights through the sky to observe his people, and then decide who would prosper or perish. Because of his presence, many people chose to stay inside.

More on history.com: http://tinyurl.com/tyjsn

Posted by: Snowrunner | 2008-11-27 5:30:03 PM

Personally, I love Christmas and most of the trappings that go with it , but it means different things to different people. I carry on the traditions handed down from my parents and my children carry on what they grew up with. We have friends that both love and hate this festive season and that is their choise. Whether it's all about baby Jesus or baby burp and fart from Kmart is entirely up to them. Life is simple. If you enjoy it...celebrate it in your own way. If not , leave it alone.

Posted by: peterj | 2008-11-27 7:22:39 PM

Well said Snowrunner...

I love christmas too peterj, and I celebrate it the same way my (atheist) parents did when I grew up. Food, family and good times... a break from work, fun with the kids, an abundance of really good booze! It's all a part of the season to me, and I love it!

I don't mind nativity scenes or saying 'merry christmas' - it's also part of the season to me. Season's greetings, merry christmas, who cares!! Enjoy in your own way...

Posted by: joe agnost | 2008-11-28 10:37:51 AM

The word Christ in Christmas says it all.

more banning eh Matthew? free speech my ass!!!!!

Posted by: Merle | 2008-12-17 6:48:37 PM

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