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Monday, November 17, 2008

George Bush rebuked at Vancouver polls?!?

Saturday, municipal elections day in British Columbia, was a sad day for conservatives in Vancouver as the united left slate of Vision Vancouver and the Committee of Progressive Electors handily won the mayoral race and carried majorities on the City Council, the Parks Board and the School Board. New mayor Gregor Robertson made the trendy promises--that he would make Vancouver the greenest city in Canada, that he would end homelessness and that he would even support artists.

You could tell that the slate supports recycling after hearing Jim Green, who ran for the job on behalf of the left last time, offer some comments to a Shaw Cable TV reporter on election night.

"I think that Obama has shown us how to do things," Mr. Green said, "Gregor's the one!"

It's odd that Barack Obama would come up while explaining the results of a Canadian municipal election. (Perhaps President Bush deployed Vancouver's garbage collectors to Iraq to collect trash there, and I missed it.) The slate's organizers should have had some explanations handy as to why Robertson won--even if they only won by default. If so, the reasons should have been readily available for Mr. Green.

Perhaps Vancouver voters wanted "change" too. Well, they are going to get it, and perhaps they will learn, through painful experience, that change for the sake of change is not a wise choice.

Posted by Rick Hiebert on November 17, 2008 in Municipal Politics | Permalink


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I remember what happened the last time Vancouverites voted for change for change's sake. They ended up with the most dysfunctional municipal government in recent memory. I'm beginning to think too much coffee is as bad for your brain as pot. Big-city types do the oddest things for no apparent reason.

Posted by: Shane Matthews | 2008-11-17 8:59:25 PM

Looks like Vancouver will be the next Toronto. Well done.

Posted by: Zebulon Pike | 2008-11-17 9:02:39 PM

Vancouver will pay dearly for election people with childlike views on everything.

Wait until the Olympics arrive in Van and the streets are crowded with pampered homeless panhandlers, drug addicts and general shit-heads who make the streets less than safe.

Add global tourists and we will end up with the view of Vancouver as a "cesspool with scenery."

And the whole world will know it.

Posted by: John V | 2008-11-18 9:31:58 AM

Adding to John V's vision of Vancouver for the Olympics, you could very well see an NDP provincial government, For Sale signs on every other home, along with striking "workers" and or Greens picketing all venues.

I believe that the Council prior to the recent one was majority expatriate American watermelons, likely dating back to their being stationed there during the Vietnam War. So no real change, just reinforcement of the traditional left Coast pathologies.

Posted by: John Chittick | 2008-11-18 10:37:25 AM

I think it makes sense that Vancouverites vote left civically. The biggest issue is always drug use. The left wants more welfare and the right wants more police power.

In a choice between fascism and social democracy -- both terrible -- social democracy seems like the lesser of two evils. Better government money serve consumption than force. (Although in practice the left and right are both generally pro-police fascists.) Vancouverites seem like reasonable voters. Philip Owen and Sam Sullivan were both much worse than Larry Campbell.

Plus the left in BC isn't nearly as fascist as the left in Ontario. When there's gang shootings, the BC left chants "no more drug war!" The Ontario left screams "ban handguns!"

Freedom-hating fascists like Zebulon chant, "no civil rights! shoot all drug dealers! I'm crazy!" But that's another story...

Posted by: Robert Seymour | 2008-11-19 9:58:47 AM

Excuse me, Robert, but perhaps you could bulk up your argument that more police = jackbooted fascism with a few facts? That's really just an opinion you have, isn't it? The fact is that Vancouver has only about one cop per 800 people, whereas for most other large cities it's more like 1 in 400. Vancouver also has extremely high property crime rates, like most non-American large cities in the Anglosphere.

Sorry, but your argument doesn't convince. A few years back Vancouverites got dopey and whiny and started complaining about the "no fun city" and on the strength of that alone swept out a competent government and replaced it with a bunch of draft dodgers and Vietnam-era relics, one of whom wore a Che Guevera T-shirt. Homelessness skyrocketed and so did debt, as COPE raided the coffers to pay for shiny new "Nuclear Weapons Free Zone" signs and live chamber music for council meetings. They were deservedly trounced after a single term.

But after only one term of the NPA, under which things once again ran tolerably well, they heeled over to the left again for no particular reason, voting for the same party responsible for the distressed finances and spike in homelessness to start with, largely on the strength of a strategic leak that happened, of course, just before voting time. Maybe it's just me, but I've noticed that such "leaks" more commonly favour the Left.

Vancouver will head into the crapper again; of this I have little doubt. You cannot put idealistic hippies in charge of running a city and expect anything else. Surrey, sensibly, kept its right-leaning--and effective--government.

Posted by: Shane Matthews | 2008-11-19 1:27:44 PM

Yeah, Vancouver is so understaffed with cops. You must be referring to that new tank they bought or how the police budget explodes every year even though crime is not. How there is a municipal military and citizens have to keep their rifles and pistols under lock and key. Go conservatism!

Property crime is a problem in Vancouver, no doubt. But that's the fault of federal Liberal's gun controls. No, more cops won't do a damn thing. Vancouver's police are complete inefficient -- they have one of the lowest rates of solving property in the country. What do you expect from a government monopoly? Oh yeah, a lot. You're a conservative!

The left will no doubt screw the city economically. My point is that I'd rather have economic mismanagement than overt fascism. I'd rather be poor than have powerful cops and a strong economy.

"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom — go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!" -- Sam Adams

Posted by: Robert Seymour | 2008-11-19 7:15:34 PM

That's nice, Robert. Against hard numbers you flail with anti-fascist invective like "tank," "police budget explodes," "municipal military." You haven't run afoul of Vancouver's finest yourself, by any chance?

Posted by: Shane Matthews | 2008-11-20 10:54:58 AM

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