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Wednesday, June 11, 2008
Mr. Churchill would have sympathized with Mr. Steyn
From "The Wit & Wisdom of Winston Churchill", which I am reading right now, comes this Churchill quote on the subject of "Free Speech":
"Some people's idea of free speech is that they are free to say what they like, but if anyone says anything back, that is an outrage."
I think that Winston would have sympathized with Mark Steyn, don't you?
Posted by Rick Hiebert on June 11, 2008 | Permalink
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I think you're right.
Posted by: dp | 2008-06-11 8:40:07 PM
I am now wondering if, at some time in the future,
a Canadian Prime Minister will stand in the House of Commons and offer an apology on behalf of all Canadians to those who suffered under the era of the Human Rights Commissions.
Posted by: atric | 2008-06-12 9:25:17 AM
I think it is time P.M. Harper and his government started to show some courage and restored FREE SPEECH to Canadians. The people who have been harassed and dictated to by by these non-elected appointed Human Rights Commissars need an APOLOGY and JUSTICE.
An Open Letter to P.M. Harper on Canadian HRCs
By Stephen J. Gray
"Human rights commissions, as they are evolving, are an attack on our fundamental freedoms and the basic existence of a democratic society," says Stephen Harper, president of the National Citizens' Coalition. "It is in fact totalitarianism. I find this is very scary stuff." ( B.C. Report, magazine article by Terry O’Neill) http://www.axionet.com/bcreport/web/990111f.html
Dear Prime Minister Harper,
You are quoted as saying the above about human rights commissions (HRCs). If you really believe what you say, then why is your government siding with the Canadian Human Rights Commission (CHRC) against Canadians? The Attorney General of Canada is listed as an intervenor in a free speech case according to a Canadian Constitution Foundation Letter of April 28, 2008. Here are the intervenors:
“The Attorney General of Canada, the Canadian Human Rights Commission, the Canadian Jewish Congress, the Simon Wiesenthal Centre and B'nai Brith Canada will be intervening in the Lemire case in support of Section 13, arguing that it is a reasonable restriction on freedom of speech.”
The Canadian Constitution Foundation (CCF) in its letter of April 28, 2008, had this to say about its own potential intervenor status in Lemire, “By intervening in support of the application put forward by Marc Lemire, the CCF would not be endorsing the content of his message, but supporting the rights of all Canadians to say and write whatever they believe, without fear of violating a law such as Section 13, of the Canadian Human Rights Act.” Amen to that! (By the way, I believe the CCF was refused intervenor status. So much for democracy in Canada!)
I find it strange that you, of all people, who is quoted as saying that human rights commissions are an “an attack on our fundamental freedoms,” would have your government intervening in trying to suppress the Charter right of freedom of expression. We may not like what people say but in the words of Voltaire, “I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.” (Canada excepted of course.)
Canadians are fed up with the “totalitarianism” of these non-elected, appointed “scary” dictators in our supposed “democratic” society. Our society has numerous examples of decent, hard working Canadians being dragged before these non-elected, appointed human rights commissions for daring to speak out in supposed “democratic” Canada.
Here are some examples: Chris Kempling, Scott Brockie, Knights of St. Columbus, Stephen Boissoin, Bishop Henry, Ezra Levant, and others. Now Catholic Insight magazine, the Christian Heritage Party, and MacLean’s magazine are also under the guns of these HRCs. But, what is even worse is that these people have to hire lawyers and pay their own costs, meanwhile their accusers are given a free ride at taxpayers expense.
I ask you what is going on? People believed when you and your government came to power that a “new broom sweeps clean” as the saying goes. Instead this does not appear to be the case. Your government is acting strangely. For instance: A Lifesite news article of February 12, 2008, by John-Henry Westen had this to say about the Conservative government’s stand on Human Rights Commissions: “Internal Memo Tells Canada’s Conservative MPs to be Noncommittal on Human Rights Commissions: Specifies that Conservative MPs are not to stand up publicly for freedom of speech for Mark Steyn and Ezra Levant.”
The article stated, “An internal memo to Conservative MPs sent last week will be sure to disappoint freedom-loving Canadians. The memo, confirmed by LifeSiteNews.com as legitimate, originated from the office of the Minister of Justice Rob Nicholson. The ‘talking points’ memo directs Conservative MPs to remain noncommittal on support for Liberal MP Keith Martin’s motion M-446, which would put an end to the growing and dangerous abuse of human rights commissions….”(see full article at:
http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2008/feb/08021212.html)
These HRCs have become a weapon to suppress and oppress the people of Canada. Yet, a “conservative” government is an intervenor against free speech. Here is more evidence:
“Sitting in the front row, beside the CHRC lawyer, was a lawyer representing the Minister of Justice, and she was not there to observe. Indeed, she was working with the CHRC lawyer in an attempt to shut down the questioning of the CHRC employees by the defense team." (Connie Fournier in her article at: http://noapologies.ca/?p=520)
Where will this all end, I ask you? Will you allow this continued harassment and suppression of free speech and use Canadians’ own taxpayers’ dollars against them? Or will you show your much-published and vaunted “leadership” and “accountability” by demolishing this rotten system of appointed interrogators? Freedom loving Canadians await your response.
Stephen J. Gray
May 25, 2008.
[email protected] website: http://www.geocities.com/graysinfo
Posted by: Stephen J. Gray | 2008-06-12 12:28:22 PM
It seems to me Mr Gray that Nicholson is trying to stem the recent tide of frank comment by his MP`s , comments which are continuously being taken out of context and proportion and used by the opposition to do damage . Is there a better way to approach an election than to remain somewhat neutral on these subjects , subjects that are important to those of us who follow closely , but subjects which , to most , remain secondary to bread and butter issues ? i.e. right now they are possible landmines ; I think intuitively most voters get it and will be speculating with their next vote that these issues will be addressed , much more strongly in the next session.
Posted by: daveh | 2008-06-13 6:30:23 AM
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