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Tuesday, April 29, 2008

The Inevitable End of the Khadr Fiasco

"A smiling Omar Khadr greeted his family today at Toronto's Pearson Airport..."

It's inevitable.  Face it.  Of course they're going to let him go.  Our leaders - and indeed, too many in the United States as well - are moral cowards.  They lack the courage to render the final judgement upon the human refuse that is Omar Khadr.  He might well be convicted by a military tribunal.  But someday a Canadian government will prevail upon the United States to let him go, as every other foreign detainee has been let go.  Perhaps not under this government or this Administration - but it will happen.  Our leaders are too weak to do what just men must.

Someday - probably sooner rather than later - Omar Khadr will have a Facebook page, just like his brother does.  The thought of him as a free man makes me sick to my stomach.  If it was up to me, he - and all of his compatriots - would have suffered the fate traditionally accorded to illegal combatants: summary execution on the battlefield.  Indeed, if it were really up to me he wouldn't have even been accorded the dignity of that.  The terrorists don't take prisoners - and they don't treat the wounded.  I see no reason why we should not respond in kind.  This war should be fought with no quarter asked for or given.  Prisoners, unless they prove willing to collaborate, should be exploited for their intelligence value and then disposed of.  But, of course, that is really too much to ask of a culture as weak as ours.

His lawyer is going around Parliament Hill calling for him to be brought to Canada.  He's backed by the Opposition in this request.  That alone is reason why all of the parties of the opposition are totally unfit to govern any civilized nation.  That such effort should, in wartime, be expended in the defense of a terrorist is despicable and disgusting. 

If we are to survive, we must purge from ourselves any trace of compassion for such sub-human garbage as this terrorist.  We are stepping into a long night of battle and unless we harden ourselves we won't still be here in the morning.

Posted by Adam T. Yoshida on April 29, 2008 in International Affairs | Permalink

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So, how big do you think the CSIS file on you is, McVeigh?

Posted by: joe bleau | 2008-04-30 4:17:08 AM


One thing is clear from this on-going case: Khadr is getting excellent representation from his JAG lawyer. Even if this turns out badly for Khadr, no one can say he got jobbed by the legal system.

Posted by: JMD | 2008-04-30 6:22:53 AM


>"So, how big do you think the CSIS file on you is, McVeigh?"
joe bleau | 30-Apr-08 4:17:08 AM

The government has a file on everyone who is a subject and files on some who aren't.

I saw a portion of the file they have on me in 1981.

>""A smiling Omar Khadr greeted his family today at Toronto's Pearson Airport..."
It's inevitable. Face it.
Adam T. Yoshida on April 29, 2008

Khadr is small potatoes compared to the way they've cocked up the situation with the NorKs.


Posted by: Speller | 2008-04-30 6:52:52 AM


"If we are to survive, we must purge from ourselves any trace of compassion for such sub-human garbage as this terrorist. "


Yo,

What makes you think we are going to survive this onslaught against the West from all quarters and from the self-hatred, guilt, selfishness and stupidity from within? It's not looking good for our side.

Posted by: John West | 2008-04-30 10:09:09 AM


To add to John West's comments I see that across the border there is now a Homeland Security report entitled "Terminology to Define the Terrorists: Recommendations from American Muslims". As a result last week the State Department, the Department of Homeland Security and the National Counter Terrorism Center issued new guidelines forbidding personnel from using the words "jihad" or "jihadist" in reference to Islamic terrorism and its perpetrators.

Posted by: Alain | 2008-04-30 11:56:20 AM


Well adam I'm glad many things are not up to you........

Posted by: patraig | 2008-04-30 1:46:42 PM


After witnessing the two black burka clad Khadrs,the mother and her daughter on a Canadian TV documentary I have no sympathy for nor do I want any of the Khadr family anywhere in our midst. They are/were friends of Osama Bin Laden. The old lady said she would be proud to have her sons martyr themselves for the cause.

Canada will have no chance of extricating that trained terrorist from US custody. They are serious about setting terrorists free.

McVeigh is a crutch for the apologists for terrorists to use. He was a single crackpot. These Islamic terrorists are vast numbers of robotic, wretches programmed to hate and kill all infidels, that's us.

They're so brainwashed they believe there are all those virgins waiting for them in the great beyond.
Need any more proof of the purity of the Islamic faith when they can be swayed to trade life for sex?

Posted by: Liz J | 2008-04-30 2:07:44 PM


>"McVeigh is a crutch for the apologists for terrorists to use. He was a single crackpot." Posted by: Liz J | 30-Apr-08 2:07:44 PM

Timothy McVeigh was no ordinary crackpot.
He was a LIBERTARIAN crackpot.

Tim's Bill of Rights

1.) Neither Speech, Press, Religion, nor Assembly shall be infringed, nor shall such be forced upon any person by the government of the United States.

2.) There shall be no standing military force during peacetime, (this) to include large bodies of federal law enforcers or coalitions of these officers that would constitute a military force, with the exception of sea-based maritime forces.

3.) The Executive Office shall hold no power to unilaterally alter Constitutional rights.

4.) No person shall be subjected to any form of direct taxation or wage withholdings by the Federal government.

5.) No person's life or liberty shall be taken without due process. Any government employee circumventing due process rights shall be punished with imprisonment. Citizens shall not be subjected to invasions of their homes or property by employees of the Federal government. Property or other assets of United States citizens shall not be subject to forfeiture to the Federal government.

6.) Personal activities that do not infringe upon the rights or property of another shall not be charged, prosecuted, or punished by the United States government. Any crime alleged will be prosecuted by the jurisdiction most local to the alleged crime, respectively. No person shall be twice tried for an offense alleged and adjudicated in another jurisdiction. No person shall be subjected to cruel and unusual punishment, nor shall the Federal government hold power to execute any individual as punishment for a crime convicted, or contract to another entity for this purpose. No person shall be held to account for the actions of another, unless proven by more than one witness to be the principal figure.

7.) All currency shall be redeemable in a globally recognized material of intrinsic value, such as silver.

8.) Legislative members shall earn no more than twice the current poverty level and shall not be subject to any additional pay, bonuses, rewards, gifts, entitlements, or other such privileges, as holding such office is meant to serve the people and should not be looked upon as a capitalist career opportunity.

9.) Where non-violent checks and balances fail to remedy government abuse or tyranny, the common people reserve the right to rebellion. Inherent with this right, the common people maintain the absolute right to own and possess those weapons which are used by any level of government for domestic policing.

10.) Any rights not enumerated here belong inherently to the people or the states respectively, and shall not be assumed by omission (to be) delegated to the jurisdiction of the federal government.

Timothy J. McVeigh
28 May, 2001
FROM>
http://wlo418.tripod.com/worldlibertarianorder/id18.html

Posted by: Speller | 2008-04-30 11:09:13 PM


http://dustmybroom.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3617&Itemid=1
Canada’s Child Is Full Of…

http://steynian.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/omar_khadr1.jpg

Omar Khadr is seen in this undated family portrait.

Hey, everybody– let’s.. give the little monster a big hand.

Posted by: Binks, WebElf | 2008-05-01 5:44:44 PM


McVeigh basically re-stated the Declaration of independence. Who can argue with that?

Which point should we disagree with?

Posted by: abc | 2008-05-02 11:35:10 AM


khadr is no soldier.....therefor should not be subject to geneva code....caught by u.s soldiers....should be tried by the u.s tribunal

Posted by: devilman123 | 2008-05-02 9:53:10 PM


with no remorse

Posted by: dman | 2008-05-02 9:54:58 PM


How come a grotesque photo such as this has escaped the eyes of all the bleeding heart Libs, Dippers and Blocheads who are calling for springing him from Gitmo?

Where are their heads anyway? Is it just a case of "oh my, Omar, you little devil you, naughty boy, we forgive you, come home to Canaduh,be protected by Trudeau's Charter, no one can harm you......"

Never mind the facts,the gory details of course, just get him home to his proud mamma.

Gitmo is too good for any of these horrible slugs of humanity.
When and if he gets released we Canadians will have the real problem of paying to sustain one more Khadr, free food and shelter, all the Charter dictates. They're not employable. Who would want to have them anywhere near?

Our government has plenty of grounds to extradite these parasites to their ancestral hell holes.
They may be able to find a cave near their family friend Osama Bin Laden.

Posted by: Liz J | 2008-05-03 7:31:28 AM


Liz

I think if you look closely you'll see that is not actually omar in those photos. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to stick up for the little monster. There is a very strong resemblance, but I'm pretty sure those pictures would not have remained hidden all these years in the midst of this controversy.

Posted by: dp | 2008-05-03 12:50:00 PM


If Khadr: Wait a minute. If Khadr went to a war zone and fought soldiers, then he's a soldier, is he not? Are we trying soldiers for fighting wars? Let's keep in mind that we invaded Afghanistan and are at the moral short end of this.

Posted by: abc | 2008-05-03 12:58:14 PM


soldiers of an organized group are given serial #S

Posted by: g | 2008-05-03 1:29:16 PM


abc

Considering the US invented guerrilla warfare 2 centuries ago, and were born of an insurgency, it does seem like a double standard.

Posted by: dp | 2008-05-03 1:30:38 PM


Possibly not little Omar but could be a very close relative with so much in-breeding. That's the sort of sick and sordid stuff they're programmed to do. That's the message and it's pretty clear. A very sick society to be part of the human family.

Posted by: Liz J | 2008-05-03 1:34:54 PM


Possibly not little Omar but could be a very close relative with so much in-breeding. That's the sort of sick and sordid stuff they're programmed to do. That's the message and it's pretty clear. A very sick society to be part of the human family.

Posted by: Liz J | 2008-05-03 1:35:16 PM


"soldiers of an organized group are given serial #S"

Who made that rule anyway? If you're invaded some rules will get tossed.

Omar should stay in custody until the conflict is over, but should probably be treated as a POW, not a terrorist. He should never be allowed back into Canada, at least until the conflict is settled. Remember that many German POW's were allowed to stay in Canada after WW2. I've met a few in southern Alberta. I think they're even allowed in the Canadian Legion.

Posted by: dp | 2008-05-03 1:38:47 PM


Right dp: Many Wainwright, Ab farmers were once German POW's.

g: That is just semantics. We all know that invaders are the enemy and should be expelled. As dp said, the US fought and still fights the same way. Should US soldiers be held in Iran in the same way Muslim soldiers are held in Gitmo? It would be consistent.

Liz: Radical muslims are a people lost in some socialist "everyone should live like us" moral high ground, bullshit ideals. They are the same as the soviets and...us.

I worked in a Muslim country and the average Muslim only goes to mosque on special occasions and lives as we do. They only become evil when they become a tool of a gov't, just like us.

Posted by: abc | 2008-05-03 1:53:11 PM


abc said:
"we invaded Afghanistan and are at the moral short end of this."

Are you serious? Did you forget something about 9/11? We didn't invade Afghanistan for fun, they were warned to give up Osama and when they refused we responded to their attack on us. We are certainly not in the moral short end of this unless you are spouting retarded moral equivalence, which you probably are. (my apologies to real retarded people who I may have slurred by comparing them to abc)

Posted by: Markalta | 2008-05-03 4:09:06 PM


Sorry abc, you're out to lunch on this one.
To say radical Muslims are he same as us is outrageous.

Posted by: Liz J | 2008-05-03 4:55:08 PM


911? I think you disregard the fact that we've been invading Islam since 1099 AD. Would the Muslims be right to justify 911 because we perpetrated hundreds of 911s on them? Hmmmm, that would mean we can strike and say we're fighting evil. When they strike, they're terrorists. Handy, but garbage.

Liz: They solve their grievences with bombing innocents. We solve ours the same way. There are many differences, but there are many similiarities.

Markalta: Sorry you can't get your head around the fact that international murder begets international murder. But, you don't have to worry, it's all CNN to you. Your retarded friends probably understand. That would make you the dimmest light in the room.

Posted by: abc | 2008-05-03 7:20:25 PM


Sorry to steal an old line, but I'd prefer not to get into a battle of wits with an unarmed man. Your vast ignorance shows through very clear. How do you think the Muslims got those lands you say we've been invading since 1099? You think they just wandered in and found them unoccupied? They conquered them like other imperialist forces throughout history. They murdered and destroyed those in their way just like their bandit prophet Mohammad the pervert showed and taught them.

Posted by: Markalta | 2008-05-03 9:28:53 PM



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