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Thursday, April 10, 2008

Al & Mike Show Episode 20

Gerry Nicholls, columnist and former vice president of the National Citizens Coalition and a Senior Fellow with the Democracy Institute joins us and talks about the conservative movement in Canada. In the second half-hour we talk to Kathy Shaidle about the lawsuit that has been brought against multiple bloggers.

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Posted by Mike Brock on April 10, 2008 in WS Radio | Permalink


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As an ignoramus about technological matters, how compelling is the evidence that the disputed messages came from Warman?

Posted by: Grant Brown | 2008-04-11 12:37:19 AM


The evidence is damn circumstantial, in my view. Here is a link that, although a bit technical, contains some interesting information.


According to the link, the IP that was used to post the offensive message is actually that of a web-caching proxy Rogers used (and still may use, for all I know) to speed up web surfing for its customers.

From the link:
"Web-caching proxies are used by Internet companies to save bandwidth--copies of files are kept on the proxy, and only if a file is not present does a request get forwarded to a website, and when the traffic gets there, it looks like its coming from the proxy, not the original sender.
That was a web-caching proxy explains a lot. It explains, for example, why it is so easy to find the IP being used in these months: dozens of different individuals in September, October, and November of 2003...Why can hundreds of instances of be found? Because it's a proxy, and therefore through-putting hundreds or thousands or tens of thousands of times more traffic than a regular IP."

Apparently, individual customers are not tied to a specific proxy, or even to a limited group of proxies. Warman's traffic was apparently shunted through the proxy on one occasion; so was the traffic of a lot of others.

Logs from Rogers could clear up this mess, because they'd keep track of who was using their proxies. But there's no legal requirement for them to keep that information for a specific length of time. From what I've heard, the logs are long gone, and with them the definitive evidence that would tie Warman to the Cools posting.

I agree with the author of the link I posted. There is much room for doubt here. Too much, in my mind, to go around slinging accusations.



Posted by: Terrence Watson | 2008-04-11 9:50:25 PM

Huh? This is not a real or professional radio show? This so-called radio show is time I will never get back....

Posted by: Dutch Fleming | 2008-04-12 1:37:52 AM

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