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Friday, November 30, 2007

Time To Bomb Iran

MacLeans magazine discusses the possibility of bombing the Iranian regime's nuclear facilities.

Posted by Winston on November 30, 2007 in Current Affairs, Military | Permalink

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Posted by: Pattern Recognition | 2007-11-30 2:48:14 PM


To the tune of Barbara Ann

Bomb Bomb Bomb, Bomb Bomb Iran,
Bomb Bomb Bomb, Bomb... Let's Bomb Iran!
Let's take a stand and Bomb Iran!
They're Evil-doers yes it's true, there's nothin' left to do,
But Bomb Iran, Bomb Bomb, Bomb Bomb Iran!

Went to Iraq, caught lotsa flack,
No turnin' back so while we're there let's just attack,
And Bomb Iran! Bomb Bomb, Bomb... Let's Bomb Iran!
They're a threat to me and you, there's nothin' left to do,
But Bomb Iran, Bomb Bomb, Bomb Bomb Iran!

Troops will have to see, a tour of duty 3,
They may get the shaft and you know we'll have to draft,
To Bomb Iran! Bomb Bomb, Bomb... Let's Bomb Iran!
They got the nukes you know it's true, there's nothin' left to do,
But Bomb Iran, Bomb Bomb, Bomb Bomb Iran!

Bombed Afghanistan, but gave up the Taliban,
Hey at least this rhymes with "stan" and that's enough to make a plan
To Bomb Iran! Bomb Bomb, Bomb... Let's Bomb Iran!
You're a commie if you doubt and my time is running out,
To Bomb Iran, Bomb Bomb, Bomb Bomb Iran!


Posted by: O'REILLY | 2007-11-30 2:58:54 PM


the only country that will bomb iran is Israel. And rightly so, if need be.
iran is currently constructing 54,000 centrifuges

Posted by: reg dunlop | 2007-11-30 5:29:20 PM


Winston:

I have been away for the last few months, but as always, I appreciate the fact that you bring these issues to the attention of Shotgunners.

I read the entire MacLeans's article. Thanks for the link. It was rather much what I expected coming from MacLean's, particularly the part about the military option not working.

There is some significant information that was missing from the article that tips the military advantage even more in the Americans' favour than the article would suggest.

On September 6, Israeli Air Force F-15 and F-16s conducted a devastating attack on targets deep inside Syria near the city of Dayr az-Zawr.

http://www.ogleearth.com/2007/10/sept_6_raid_in.html

Although Israeli military censors initially did not comment on the attack, Israel did confirm in October that they had attacked Syria. Syria has confirmed that a military facility was hit but this news story insists that if it was a facility for nuclear purposes, it was in the early stages of construction.

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/US_Israel_refuse_to_cooperate_with_1114.html

However, the really big story on Sept 6 was not the bombing of the facility. It was that the Israelis (with some American help) were able to shut down the Russian-supplied Syrian air defenses and fly across Syria undetected. This is an article describing the air defenses.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3436827,00.html

This is an article describing the Israeli strategy of shutting down the Syrian systems.

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story.jsp?id=news/ISRA112107.xml&headline=U.S.%20Electronic%20Surveillance%20Monitored%20Israeli%20Attack%20On%20Syria&channel=defense

It should come as no surprise that the Iranian air defenses are also Russian-supplied and are said to be slightly less advanced than Syria's. Some have called the Sept 6 raid a test run by Israeli and American strategists. If so, Iran's air defenses will be defeated as easily as Syria's were.

The MacLean's article correctly points out the difficulties in trying to occupy the country but it overstates the issues in taking out the nuclear program.

The program will be taken out simply because it must be taken out. One source has said Sarkozy wants to be in on the attack. I will wait until I see it to be sure but it would be a welcome change if France has rejoined the West in these type of issues.

Posted by: Brent Weston | 2007-11-30 7:23:28 PM


Hi Brent, Yes I am aware of what Israelis did and how they probably did it. It was also a practice run if time comes to bomb Iran. As some one who served in the Iranian Air Force in late 90s, I know that Syria and Iran employ the same Russian made air defense systems and therefore for Israelis being able to break in without any problem means that they can get in and out of Iran with the same ease. Thnx for the links

Posted by: winston | 2007-11-30 7:27:43 PM


Thanks, Winston

Posted by: Brent Weston | 2007-11-30 7:44:51 PM


Yes. It is.

Posted by: philanthropist | 2007-11-30 11:37:58 PM


As long as we're seriously talking about lobbing nukes around, best put them where they'll do the most good...Like N.Korea, Toronto or Vancouver.

Not all extremist strongholds are over seas. ;-)

Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux | 2007-12-01 8:54:20 AM


Normally I don't post of the Sabbath day, but I am snowed in, and I feel the information in the following link is paramount to distribute. I am free to be who I am, and you are free to be who you are, because we live in the free world--and together we face this current crisis.

http://edition.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/08/08/gingrich/index.html#cnnSTCVideo

Posted by: Lady | 2007-12-01 10:19:27 AM


"...where they'll do the most good...Like N.Korea, Toronto or Vancouver"

Ha! WLM, ya beat me too it!

Posted by: tomax7 | 2007-12-01 1:46:23 PM


Who let the dogs out?

Posted by: Lady | 2007-12-01 4:25:30 PM


Aaaaaaaand the White House admits the Iranians aren't building nuclear weapons. Good thing you guys aren't in charge. The headlines would've been pretty funny.

"Western Standard Readers bring safe end to deadly electrical power program."

"Western Standard Readers Bring Decisive End to Islamofascist Plans to Slowly Electrocute Israel Off The Map."

تكون جيدة.

Posted by: Pattern Recognition | 2007-12-04 8:10:24 AM


"the White House admits the Iranians aren't building nuclear weapons"

More disinformation -

It was NOT the White House that said this, but the US "experts" who missed predicting the collapse of the Soviet Union, missed India's nuclear bomb capabilities, missed Pakistan's nuclear bomb capabilities, etc., etc.

That agency is filled with Leftists, oppose to Bush's foreign policy.

We have similar Leftoid bureaucrats here in Canada who try to stymie PM Harper's policies.

Posted by: obc | 2007-12-04 8:38:41 AM


OBC, the Director of National Intelligence is a leftist-filled agency? Last I heard the director was one person, Mike McConnell, appointed by President George Bush.

But you can watch the President say it in his own words if you're still in doubt:

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/04/bush-never-learned-of-nie/

Posted by: Pattern Recognition | 2007-12-04 9:32:38 AM



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