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Tuesday, October 30, 2007

Survivor: Canada

Is it just me, or is this beginning to sound like an episode of Survivor?

Green Leader Elizabeth May says a dinner date with NDP Leader Jack Layton might provide the spark for a parliamentary plot to topple the minority Conservatives.

When the two leaders sit down, May is hoping for “an open-ended discussion about what we could maybe do to ensure that Harper loses the election.

“That’s the kind of conversation I had with (Liberal Leader) Stéphane Dion. I think it would be more effective if it was all three of us talking about it. Or four, including (Bloc Québécois Leader) Gilles Duceppe,” May said in an interview yesterday.

It appears that Elizabeth May is desperately running around trying to make deals with anybody who will listen, to find a way to vote the Conservatives ‘off the island’.  She even had to purchase the dinner with Jack Layton at a charity auction to get the chance to speak with him.

Unfortunately for Lizzy, it’s not the politicians that get to vote other politicians out of office, but rather the citizens of Canada, who at this moment favour the Conservatives more than any other party, and Stephen Harper more than any other party leader.

Rather than playing games to make deals with other parties, perhaps she should focus on her own party policies and get elected on her own merits?  With all of her games, I’m wondering just what she stands for, other than trying to oust the Conservatives and win a seat of her own?

Perhaps Lizzy would feel more comfortable in the Liberal party?

Cross-posted at www.exactlyright.ca.

Posted by Dave Hodson on October 30, 2007 | Permalink


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A significant number of Layton's Socialist Horde are going to run against Green Candidates in the next Federal Election, including Saint Elizabeth who
is currently immersed in studies to become an Anglican Priest -which is the ultra conservative house of worship in Canada, if she was a real Canadian she would be aware of that -MacKay will demolish holier than thou Ms. May Llb Dalhousie Law
School - Hopefully she and layton will dine on Humble Pie - MacLeod

Posted by: Jack MacLeod | 2007-10-30 1:01:37 PM

ewwwwwwww, does she have any idea how the ndp detest her for stealing a majority of their voters? Jack won't go for it, because he knows the ndp will boot him out as leader, and put her in.

Posted by: Honey Pot | 2007-10-30 1:46:48 PM

Says something that she despises Harper more than she does the group of treasonists dedicated to breaking up the country. Deal making with the Bloc?

Posted by: Septtwo | 2007-10-30 2:11:05 PM

"Is it just me, or is this beginning to sound like an episode of Survivor?"

It's just you. Politicians have meetings all the time, even over a meal, and work together without turning politics into a reality show. Just because Harper and some of his supporters might have "majority envy" does not mean that working with other parties is automatically problematic. It's what is required with minority governments.

Posted by: Fact Check | 2007-10-30 2:32:45 PM

You can tell true Leftoids by the tone of their posts - filled with arrogance and condescension.

Posted by: obc | 2007-10-30 2:37:17 PM

I think taliban-jack is just way too old and too tired to be horizontally lobbied anymore.

Posted by: Lady | 2007-10-30 2:41:40 PM


Let's see ... here Dave refers to Elizabeth May as "Lizzy" and in his last post referred to "the crazy editors at the Star". Here Jack MacLeod calls May "Saint Elizabeth" and says she is not "a real Canadian". Septtwo calls the Bloc "treasonists". You use the term "Leftoids". So if you think that "Leftoids" can be identified by their condescension, then it looks like you guys are all "Leftoids" as well.

Posted by: Fact Check | 2007-10-30 2:46:53 PM

Lady, your condescension by using the term "taliban-jack" will get obc thinking you are a "Leftoid". Beware!

Posted by: Fact Check | 2007-10-30 2:48:13 PM

Fat Czech, I prefer the term Naivist.


Posted by: Epsilon | 2007-10-30 2:49:00 PM

Fact Check,

We're not talking about politicians meeting to discuss legislation. That does happen all the time, and it's expected. All the parties do it and should do it.

What Lizzy is doing is making deals like her deal with Dion to not run candidates in each other's ridings. By no stretch of the imagination does that happen all the time. I don't recall that ever happening before!

I don't think she'll get the time of day from Layton, as he believes he can pick up seats without her "help" (unlike Dion). The Liberals and the Bloc will be hemoraging seats to both the Conservatives and the NDP without her help.

Posted by: Dave Hodson | 2007-10-30 2:50:15 PM

May should be encouraged at every opportunity to continue leading her wacko Party. A four-way split left-lib electorate = CPC majority.

Posted by: John Chittick | 2007-10-30 2:50:44 PM

Fat chick ~

The labels are not what I consider condescending and arrogant. It is your superior holier-than-Mao attitude in addressing conservatives, as if only YOU possess the "truth". That goes for your buddies here - the other trolls.

Posted by: obc | 2007-10-30 2:57:59 PM

"What Lizzy is doing is making deals like her deal with Dion to not run candidates in each other's ridings. By no stretch of the imagination does that happen all the time. I don't recall that ever happening before!"

Don't you remember when people in the PC and Reform parties wanted to do the same thing? Isn't the merger of those two parties into one entity just the same thing as two parties co-ordinating candidates? May is suggesting nothing more sinister than what a lot of conservatives have thought and done. Wake up!

Posted by: Fact Check | 2007-10-30 3:32:14 PM

Saint Lizzy and Taliban Jack. Those two non-Canadian Leftoids couldn't arrange a one-car funeral if thier lives depended on it. I hope those treasonous whackos enjoy their meal. Perhaps the crazy editors at The Star will cover it in the cartoon section of their Sunday rag. Thousands of cats and birds living in Toronto will enjoy the humor.

Posted by: atric | 2007-10-30 3:54:14 PM

Fact Check, I never suggested that Lizzy was up to anything "sinister". Stupid perhaps, since it will never work, but not sinister. And Lizzy is not suggesting a party merger either, so your comparison doesn't really work.

But lately, while we've heard several policy proposals from Conservatives. At the same time, all we've heard from Lizzy and the opposition parties, is about supporting the government, not supporting the government, the government bad, the government this, the government, how can we stop the government, etc.

How about Lizzy's policy proposals and her reasons that people should vote for her?

Oh well, I guess that's not important. Better to strategize with 3 other parties that haven't come up with anything either, and figure out how to stop the Conservatives.

With opposition like that, I can't wait for an election!

Posted by: Dave Hodson | 2007-10-30 4:13:17 PM

I refer to the Hon Alexa MacDonagh whom I know quite well by her nickname bestowed on her during many election campaigns in Nova Scotia, She and Saint Elizabeth have a lot in common, both are totally dedicated members of the Socialist Horde which now
includes many Liberals who gave Canada subsidized sodomy -only in Canada eh. Saint Elizabeth will
soon don the robes of an Anglican clergy person -or
whatever the venerable institution calls female
Clergy today -the staunch ultra conservative Halifax NS Anglicans who I have known all my life in Halifax will not be overwhelmingly kind to American born Barrister who has no Canadian roots whatever -her parents were well known shit disturbers in the District of Columbia USA -they were never part of the close knit Cape Breton Community where my Father's family settled from Ulster in 1841 -if you don't like how I refer to Saint Elizabeth or Saint Alexa -go back to reading Action Comics - MacLeod unimpressed in perfect tiny Moncton New Brunswick division of the Irving Group.

Posted by: Jack MacLeod | 2007-10-30 4:54:29 PM

If Ms. May and her party decided that they could not support the mini-budget,that would change things,how? This woman is clearly delusional. I hope she comes to Alberta and visits Pam Barrett's dentist.

Posted by: wallyj | 2007-10-30 5:25:33 PM

...heh heh... "Pam Barret's dentist".

Fact Check~

"majority envy" is a moot point. the Conservatives are running roughshod over the whole lot of 'em. did you listen to the budget news this afternoon? Harper is DARING this bunch of pantywaist, social liberal parties to bring it all down.

he's having fun egging Stephanie on with *gasp* some truly conservative policies; policies which haven't been seen for many years.

and more will come.

"it's what is required with minority governments",
my ass. not this time.

Posted by: shel | 2007-10-30 5:51:12 PM

Kinsella offers advice on how Dion "can get his groove back" the Little fart never had no grooveto begin with -he was the guy at cocktail parties at the so called University of Moncton who vanished into a corner -the University of Moncton ain't really a "University" more like a French only Community College. Real Atlantic Canada Universities
don't rate the tiny bastion of what passes for
French in the Picture Province, as an equal player
-more like a non contender is more like it. Macleod

Posted by: Jack Macleod | 2007-10-31 6:10:39 AM

HILARIOUS! Dion had a groove? Dion was in the groove? Must be a phantom groove and Kinsella is so bloody desperate he's going to animate it, guess he loves a challenge. To tell the truth Dion has been looking more like he's crapped his drawers every time he stands in the HOC.

The pompous audacity of Dion to say he will bring this government down but now is not the time!!
You bet it isn't the "time" for the Libranos, if it was they'd be out on the stump in a heartbeat.
The only thing worse for the Liberals than a minority Conservative government is a majority Conservative government.

It's so funny too, they said they'd vote down anything they thought was not good for Canadians, only they know what's good for us of course.

Posted by: LizJ | 2007-10-31 8:28:51 AM

Fact Check,

Thanks for the chuckle.

obc consider me a leftist?

That viewpoint never crossed my mind.

And, I don't suppose obc has ever thought that I might call him a leftist--I doubt it has ever crossed his mind.

I don't think I would ever say that unless I had a drink in my hand and a smerk on my face, and he could see I was pulling his leg.

Posted by: Lady | 2007-10-31 10:29:49 AM


LOL, could you see the panties flying? Any fool, who would bring the house down, and go into an election, argueing taxpayers should not be permitted to pay less, are asking to go totally beyond defeated. Like the NDP in BC, when Dosange (sp) made the public announcement, that he did not believe the NDP would win the next election (back then) and then they lost to such an extent that they really did not have legal opposition status.

The poor have the most to gain from this, because more money in their pockets is a difference in the quality of food on the table. A few hundred dollars more a year in the hands of a woman with two children means much more than a few hundred dollars in the hands of someone who makes three times her income.

Yet, as usual, the lefties spend their time vexing on the fact that there is a difference in the amount people earn. I don't see them taking their monies and donating more to charity? If they don't like the fact that they make middle to upper incomes, then they can donate everything they make above the level of poverty, to charity. I know that there is not a chance that any of them would be so stupid to do that, because they know, that even the poor want to pay less taxes, when they start earning a middle to upper income--should their situations change.

Posted by: Lady | 2007-10-31 10:39:07 AM


common sense and lucid points; as usual.

Posted by: shel | 2007-10-31 3:04:08 PM

Green Leader May should have sought a nomination in Halifax HRM and run against one of the vulnerable
Liberal MPs whose support of flabby Martin and Citoyen Dion have cost them support in grassroots Liberal ranks May could defeat either Regan or Savage. Neither exactly bright lights in the fast fading Nova Scotia Liberal Party. May is campaigning in the Highland Heart of Nova Scotia against a long
established Scots family and traditional conservatives, going back to British Colonial Days
-she will be demolished in the Central Nova Riding

Posted by: Jack Macleod | 2007-11-01 7:26:12 AM

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