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Monday, September 24, 2007
Covering the puppet
You can follow the news of the Iranian regime's puppet visit to NYC here or there.
Btw, Mahmoud claims:
“In Iran we don’t have homosexuals like in your country. We don’t have that in our country. In Iran we do not have this phenomenon. I don’t know who has told you that we have it.”
Can it get any more bizzare than this!?
Take a look at this one to see how they don't have gay people in Iran.
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Are you implying that he's being less than truthful?
Posted by: Cynic | 2007-09-24 10:04:39 PM
I'm implying that this guy is a natural born liar!
Posted by: Winston | 2007-09-24 10:38:05 PM
Of course he is right about no homosexuals in Iran. They executed them- problem solved.
Posted by: DML | 2007-09-24 11:28:54 PM
And at Columbia, they won't allow army recruiters because of Clinton's Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy, but they'll allow this "homophobe" who executes gays in Iran.
Leftoid logic, I suppose.
Posted by: obc | 2007-09-25 6:11:15 AM
He's a Puppet to his Theocratic Masters. His word is as good as mud.
The loopy Left comprises a maze of contradictions allowing such a creature a platform.
Sadly, he garners front page news coverage in some of our daily papers. The National Post has him on the front page while our Prime Minister, who spoke at the UN yesterday is relegated to page four.
Posted by: Liz J | 2007-09-25 6:29:39 AM
Least Canada could do in the spirit of Christian Brotherhood is to send him some - Is Iran an equal
opportunity employer? Just asking. Macleod perplexed in Monckton New Brunswick
Posted by: Jack Macleod | 2007-09-25 6:47:46 AM
Imagine if he spoke at the Univ of Toronto or York? The cheering crowds listening attentive to his anti-American and anti-Semitic rantings. He'd fit right in.
Posted by: Zebulon Pike | 2007-09-25 7:38:33 AM
. . . or at practically every North American university today. Columbia is in NYC, site of 9/11. That murderous terrorist event hasn't made them any smarter, has it.
Posted by: obc | 2007-09-25 8:13:49 AM
I would say they have more than their share of homos in Iran. And more than their share of rapists, women beaters and young masterbaters who beat it to death since many of them will never have a wife. ... Older richer men have so many of them locked up in their polygamous world. There just ain't enough to go around. No wonder their young men want to die ... no sex, beer, music etc. Life ain't worth living in that country. Or they can go gay and at least have sex with another human. What can I say?
Posted by: John | 2007-09-25 9:18:02 AM
Zebulon, your ignorance of Toronto reigns supreme. You are obviously unaware that York is locally known as "Jew U" because of the large numbers of Jewish students and staff, and its proximity to the Jewish neighbourhoods of northern Toronto. They have allowed Daniel Pipes to speak there, who is no less a "hater" than the leader of Iran. Benjamin Netanyahu, a non-believer of human rights, has also appeared there.
Personally, I don't think they should have invited him to Columbia because of a) his track record as a Holocaust denier, and b) the unrest they knew it would cause. It's the same reason that you wouldn't have George W Bush speak at practically ANY university outside of the united States.
It's funny that you refer to him as a "murderous terrorist", which like Saddam he may be, of his own people. But they have both killed far, far less civilans of ANOTHER nation than Bush. So apparently, CALLING for war on a sovereign nation (Israel) is worse than ACTUALLY invading a sovereign nation (Iraq). Logic in the rightoid world is truly bizarre, to say the least.
Posted by: Paul Gallagher | 2007-09-25 9:20:41 AM
He came, he spoke, they laughed at him.
The beauty of free speech.
I would continue laughing if PG would only remember that Stalin killed 10 million of his own people.
That would be OK with him, I'd suppose.
All in the name of imposing a progressive, evolutionary political system. Nobody else's business, if somebody's kiling their own people. Correct?
Posted by: set you free | 2007-09-25 9:26:08 AM
Paul
York is infested with dangerous young Arab men who don't shy away from showing their hatred for their Jewish classmates. Moreover, Daniel Pipes was DENIED that opportunity to speak there. Get your facts checked before posting plz. Thnx
Posted by: Winston | 2007-09-25 9:27:11 AM
Well John, there's always the cattle-beasts and sheep to keep them happy.
And Gallagher, to compare the actions of Bush to the fervent desires of Imadinnerjacket is just plain loopy. Logic in the Leftiod world is truly bizarre, to say the least.
Posted by: atric | 2007-09-25 9:31:24 AM
"York is locally known as "Jew U" "
That's all that needs to be quoted from Gilligan's posting. Says it all.
Posted by: obc | 2007-09-25 9:41:22 AM
Perhaps it was my error for not being clear: I do not give a pass to Mahmoud, Saddam or Stalin for what they have done to their own people. And nor will history. But I do question the ongoing support here for Bush, and likewise history will not treat him kindly either.
Winston, you are correct about York having a "nastier Arab" faction. However, both they and the Jewish student claim the same "chicken and the egg" theory - that they are only there to supress the other (no one admits to being the instigator). The fact is, both sides on campus (Jewish and Arab) persist in denying free speech by the other side. The "pro-Arab" side only seems more prominent because the pro-Israel side (in Toronto as a whole) only consists of Jewish people, while the anti-Israel side consists of everyone else. You all will undoubtedly put this down to the old bogeyman "anti-semitism", and of course it has nothing to do with "occupation" or "Israeli expansionism".
If you're going to ban insidious folks from speaking on campus, then by all means that includes Holocaust deniers like Mahmoud. But then you also have to ban human-rights deniers like Netanyahu and war-mongerers like Bush. Again, you will resort to your favourite excuse, "lack of moral equivalency" - i.e right-wing bad guys can't really be bad, no matter how much death and destruction they cause. I ask, again: what is worse: a loony who TALKS big, bad and crazy (Mahmood) or a loony that ACTS big, bad and crazy (Bush)??
Posted by: Paul Gallagher | 2007-09-25 9:41:57 AM
It's easy to be stupid and brainless as a kid in college, even today and even at a top flight university like Colombia. The Leftist drivel, starting with the baby food of "environmentalism" is force fed into kids 24/7 so that at university they are full of "it" and then ready to leave the screwed up caccoon and find out how much crap all that junk was, or else they just become Liberal or Democrat Party baffoons until Socialism ruins their national prospects for their own family formation and future happiness (let's see where could I find a good example of this phenomenon).
Creepy Leftist Columbia President Lee Bollinger FORTUNATELY was shamed into challenging the Iranian Tryant on the stage (after Bollinger invited Ameridijhad to poke a thumb into Bush's eye), and consequently, the Columbia students were treated with a "debate" of sorts which did not end up shaming the stupid students for being in the same State with such an evil tryant (i.e. Ameridijhad, not Bollinger).
An American college doe not need to invite Ameridijhad or any other tyrant onto their campus to hear and assess his words and actions, the horrible Communist main stream media trumpets and hails these guys and anyone else who will call for the destruction of American style limited government and individual liberty every day and all day long.
The media Communists admire and advance ANY sort of big government Totalitarianism wherever they (the media) can become part of "the elite" in the Ministry of Propaganda and EDUCATION.
One probably needs to be a natural born and raised American in order to understand just how absolutely disconnected the Communist homosexual-feminists of the main stream media are, that they actually think of themselves and call themselves the "elite" ... in America!
Iran certainly has homosexuals as does any large human population, which will manifest all manner of mental illnesses, even those like homosexuality, which results from child sexual abuse or now from just negligent child raising (i.e. by our much lauded "single-moms") in a hyper-sexualized society.
The question of homosexuality for Ameridijhad was a good proxy for a more accurate and much larger inquiry about how any sort of non-criminal minority opinion or population is handled in tyrannical Islamic nations. That question is fundamental to why we are fighting a War in Iraq in order to allow those suffering people to establish a minority rights respecting freely elected and restrained government as a way out for the Islamic nations to avoid nuclear anihilation (Plan B).
Posted by: Conrad-USA | 2007-09-25 9:45:05 AM
obc, nice try buddy but I didn't make up that name for York. That's simply what it is known as.
atric, you give Bush a pass for his "actions"?? So, in your world, what is worse (given that they are both very, very BAD): some hip-hop rapper who "sings" boastingly about raping and sodomizing women, or some fellow that ACTUALLY is a serial rapist who does those same things to women, justifying his actions by claiming "they asked for it" (even though we know he's wrong).
Posted by: Paul Gallagher | 2007-09-25 9:46:07 AM
Gilligan demonstrates the skull-full-of-mush results that universities produce today.
Posted by: obc | 2007-09-25 9:47:14 AM
Paul:
Why should anybody be banned?
Free speech is a cornerstone of US politics.
He came, he spoke, they laughed at him.
Mission accomplished.
Posted by: set you free | 2007-09-25 9:49:02 AM
SYF, I'm just responding to the people that protested him speaking at Columbia. I agree with you - and he does make a fool of himself, be it his theories on the Holcaust or homosexuals in Iran.
I agree that everyone should be allowed to speak. But if you're going to invite someone, treat him properly (not necessarily lovingly). What would be the reaction if Bush was invited to sepak at the University of Alberta, and the President of U of A introduced him as the "ill-fated architect of the War in Iraq, that destabilized the entire region, and started a civil war leading to the deaths of tens of thousands. Ladies and gentlemen, Goerge W Bush".
Posted by: Paul Gallagher | 2007-09-25 9:59:05 AM
Just waiting for Bill O'Reilly to be invited to Columbia to speak. He would not be treated any better than the Minutemen representative who arrived last year- and was not permitted to address the assemblage. A riot broke out, and the speaker was threatened with physical violence.
Yeah - tolerant Columbia - home of free speech to all. And the students responsible for this fiasco were not disciplined or punished in any manner by the school's principal!
Free speech for murderers - but not for conservatives.
Posted by: obc | 2007-09-25 10:02:20 AM
"Free speech for murderers - but not for conservatives"
obc, I thought they were the same thing??
If you believe that people promoting hatred SHOULD be ill-treated (such as Mahmood), then Bill O'Reilly should rightfully be treated as the scum that he is. But since places of higher education are full of "leftoids", O'Reilly is likely to only speak at places like the "Bible College for Fornication with Your Sister" in Mississippi.
Posted by: Paul Gallagher | 2007-09-25 10:10:19 AM
PG:
Where in Mississippi is that college located?
Seems to me it would be against Biblical principles, so I'll just put it down as a drive-by smear on Christians.
Posted by: set you free | 2007-09-25 10:19:47 AM
Leftoids smear as their reply. Typical for them.
Posted by: obc | 2007-09-25 11:14:55 AM
None of our guys in NYC are too excited about the visit by the Persian Pretender - Big Apple natives are used to visitors from abroad saying nasty things about the good old USA -so what, who cares, the little fart's real problem will be to get back to JFK without being shot at or maimed. Columbia U has long been an Icon of free speech and "causes" naturally the venerable U attracts all kinds of shit disturbers and nut cases, but that's part of it's charm. I was surprised that Professor Attaran of the University of Zero, Ontario was not on hand to meet and greet -I wonder if Pufffy Duffy got a chance to meet with the Persian Pretender. Nothing that happens in the Big Apple should come as a surprise, Lots of Jews at Columbia -going back to the very founding of the establishment. Macleod
who I would think were demonstrating and laughing at the same time. MacLeod in Monckton NB Canada
Posted by: Jack Macleod | 2007-09-25 11:18:50 AM
There goes the Left again and as predictable as ever. Their tolerance for free speech quickly changes to intolerance if the subject or speaker disagrees with their ideology.
Personally I should not oppose Colombia inviting this thug in the name of free speech if they gave equal invitations and treatment to everyone else. Fact is they are very selective.
Posted by: Alain | 2007-09-25 11:27:29 AM
Gallagher, you continue to try and muddy the waters with your drivel. The topic you initially presented referred to Bush and that Iranian goof.
Now you want to change the subject to rape and sodomy.
By the way, I agree that he should have been allowed to speak.So should the President of Columbia been allowed speak his mind. Freedom of speech should be absolute.
Posted by: atric | 2007-09-25 11:32:08 AM
This is from al-AP, so I doubt the headline truly represents most Iranians:
"Iranians condemn U.S. reception of leader"
NEW YORK -- Iranians on Tuesday called the combative introduction of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad by the head of Columbia University "shameful" and said the harsh words only added to their image of the United States as a bully.
In a region where the tradition of hospitality outweighs personal opinions about people, many here thought Columbia University President Lee Bollinger's aggressive tone -- including telling Ahmadinejad that he exhibited the signs of a "petty and cruel dictator" -- was over the top.
"the tradition of hospitality " - you mean like the 52 American hostages who were held 444 against their will, led by this same President Imanidiot when he was a "student"?
And the Columbia Pres. is a Leftoid par excellence!!! How dare they criticize one of their allies!
Of course, his "harsh" words were meant to mollify the many donors who have withdrawn their financial support. He actually believes little of what he spoke.
Posted by: obc | 2007-09-25 11:33:39 AM
Check out this picture & caption of President Imanidiot:
http://lucianne.com/
Posted by: obc | 2007-09-25 11:37:18 AM
"And another thing..."
National Review Online, by Lisa Schiffren
The morning after the Columbia spectacle two things bother me. The first is that the majority of protesters outside the Columbia campus and inside were Jewish students. So, where were the gay activists? They are not usually shy when faced with even perceived injustice. Why weren’t the campus Socialists out there?
THE GAY activists weren't there because they are hypocrites - it would help Bush, so they stayed away.
Posted by: obc | 2007-09-25 11:58:34 AM
...sad, I remember when the word "Gay" meant to be happy, or having a good time, and the Fred Flinstone theme song.
Now if you're not supportive of gays, then you're a Neanderthal like good ol' Freddy.
Posted by: tomax7 | 2007-09-25 1:04:38 PM
And Leftoids rail about capital punishment in the US? Where are they when it comes to Iranand the killings of gays:
"Iran Does Far Worse Than Ignore Gays, Critics Say"
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s seemingly ridiculous claim that "we don’t have homosexuals, like in your country" masks the cruel reality that his government does far worse than ignore gays, human rights groups charge.
"There are criminal laws on the books in Iran that allows for people to be killed for being homosexual," said Paula Ettelbrick, executive director of the International Gay and Lesbian Human Rights Commission.
Just how many gays may have been killed — some say the figure is more than 400 — is impossible to determine. But Ahmadinejad’s flip follow-up answer to the question posed to him Monday at Columbia University — "We do not have this phenomenon. I don’t know who has told you that we have" — suggests he won’t take the issue seriously.
Posted by: obc | 2007-09-25 1:33:12 PM
Here's a goodie:
The definition of anti-Semitism is:
A person who hates Jews more than he should.
Posted by: obc | 2007-09-25 5:08:52 PM
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