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Friday, July 13, 2007

President Bush press conference on Iraq

President Bush does what he is good at: Talking to press honestly

President Bush is right on the money. Unfortunately, leftists MSM and politicians can not bring themselves up to understand the stakes.

Oh, by the way, the same can be applied to us in Canada and to those who want to disengage in Afghanistan and do the infamous "cut & run" thing. Just replace the word Canada with America in the above paragraph.

Posted by Winston on July 13, 2007 in Current Affairs, Media, Military | Permalink

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Winnie wrote:Unfortunately, leftists MSM and politicians can not bring themselves up to understand the stakes.

A hackneyed cliche of the neocons; who while losing their hold on power are also losing their grip on reality.

Posted by: St Albion Parish News | 2007-07-13 6:34:34 AM


Bush's ultimate legacy will be a lot like that of Enoch Powell's. Many years after he is gone, people will realize that what he said was indeed prophetic and right on the money..

Posted by: atric | 2007-07-13 8:30:33 AM


No matter what President George Bush says at a Press Conference the anti-American Media in New York and Canada will focus on undermining the will of the President, Congress and the United States Armed Forces - in World War II it was called offering aid and comfort to the enemy - But President Roosevelt
and Truman knew how to knock down the Media. Saint Alabaster is either in the gay Toronto Media or wishes he was -Red Star features nonsense from Big Rosie Banana who should be forced to wear a burka and veil -(be an improvment) we don't have no neocons in New Brunswick, Jeez the Acadians have
enough problems pronouncing "Conservative" who dey? Macleod

Posted by: Jack Macleod | 2007-07-13 9:09:48 AM


St Albion,

Isn't there a Mosque in Britain with your membership?

On this site, being a neocon, is a compliment.

I know, I know, you are a fake. Let the truth come to the surface. Be out with your fakeness! You'll feel better, and the five times a day that you bow to the islamofacist entity, will feel all the more meaningful.

Posted by: Lady | 2007-07-13 9:26:56 AM


The sap may be a fake in many respects, but he is an authentic bigot.

Posted by: obc | 2007-07-13 9:31:49 AM


atric,

Bush's real legacy will be his disregard for the historical role of president and his creation of a presidency that is above the law. Evidence will come from his continued disrespect of the Constitution through illegal wiretapping, the suspension of habeus corpus, and torture. It can be seen in the undermining of the rule of law he allowed in the unprecedented pre-appeal, zero jail time commutation of Libby's sentence. It will be seen in his complete disregard for the concepts of oversight and accountability.

Another legacy will be how he took a balanced budget that was actually winding up with a surplus and turned it into an EIGHT TRILLION DOLLAR deficit.

His final legacy will be the war on terror and the occupation of Iraq, which according to the U.S. National Intelligence Estimate has left Al-Qaida more organized and better equipped to do harm to the U.S. and its allies than ever before.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070711/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_terror_threat;_ylt=AovUauyhhxDwZNdnYo.pEVms0NUE

The strategy has already failed. The presidency has failed. They're spending the next 550 days trying not to be impeached, not trying to govern.

Posted by: Voice of Reason | 2007-07-13 9:51:36 AM


VOR ~

Spoken like a true Leftoid anti-American. All nonsense, of course. I'm surprised you didn't include Cheney and Rove in your diatribe.

Posted by: obc | 2007-07-13 10:00:43 AM


My last post should have been directed to Voice of Treason.

Posted by: obc | 2007-07-13 10:02:31 AM


And here's more proof that Leftoids haven't a clue how the economy works. Tax cuts are an ENORMOUS success in the US - under the policy of George W. Bush.

"Incredible Shrinking Deficit"

2004 - $413 billion
2005 - $318 billion
2006 - $248 billion
2007 - $205 billion

When you look at it as a percentage of GDP, the decline is even more striking:

2004 - 3.6%
2005 - 2.6%
2006 - 1.9%
2007 - 1.5%

http://www.nysun.com/article/58341

Posted by: obc | 2007-07-13 10:14:44 AM


Voice of Reason, your brief analysis is right on point. There are other items that could be added such as the failed social programmes, the inability to deliver immigration reform, etc., but the attempts at an "imperial" presidency and foreign debacles will very likely top the list.

This latest speech identified by Winston has received blanket coverage in the major American media. Bush's problem is that the vast majority no loner believe or trust him. It is interesting that Winston thinks it provides a template for Canada and, I suppose, is encouraging Harper to mimic the words. Ironically, it is being reported today that the Conservative spin meisters are urging Harper NOT to use words like "cut and run" because they have no resonance with Canadians. This Bush approach is the very approach that is in part responsible for the drop in support for the combat mission role of Canada in Afghanistan and its effect on the Conservatives' popularity (according to the Conservatives, not me).

I say, go for it Harper, mimic Bush. Then again, I'm not a Conservative.

Posted by: munroe | 2007-07-13 10:43:01 AM


Right on the money!

Americans pay far less per capita than we do!

Here is where their tax free day has come into bear.

http://www.taxfoundation.org/UserFiles/Image/Tax-Freedom-Day/2007/figure3large.jpg

Well, you can calculate your own personal tax free day here:

http://www.fraserinstitute.ca/shared/taxcalc.asp

According to the Frazer Institute, Canadians, on Average, celebrate tax free day on June 20th.

This means that the average American gets two more months of their pay, without tax, each and every single year!

No wonder they are the leaders of the free world.

Oh, but wait, there is more. Singapor does not have a personal tax, so they celebrate at the beginning of their tax year, every year.

And whose bright idea was personal income tax?

It was the Federal predecessors of the NDP, the Unionists with their Liberal coalition.

Posted by: Lady | 2007-07-13 10:52:31 AM


Here's a link on the report referred to above.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070713.wafghanpr13/BNStory/National/home

Posted by: munroe | 2007-07-13 11:06:41 AM


"American gets two more months of their pay, without tax, each and every single year!"

An don't give me "but we have free health care" crapola. This just proves that it's NOT free. And with that FREE crapola, we have months-long waiting lists with less experienced doctors who are limited in their surgery experiences because it is government regulated.

With the 2-months tax savings, Americans can get health insurance and access the best medical care in the world.

Sure, many under 50 play lotto with their health by getting no insurance at all in order to save money. Well, that's their choice in a free country - something Canadians have been deprived of - unless the choice is abortion. Then - and only then - they may "choose" their "medical" treatment.

Posted by: obc | 2007-07-13 11:07:10 AM


The "vast majority" will elect a Republican Candidate to replace President Bush, who will go to the end of his term nobody in the real world of Politics would even "think" about impeachment! munroe spends too much time watching CNN and PBS.
Rudy the enforcer will win the nod and be elected President.and not much will change except some US Forces will be redeployed from Iraq, US economy will
continue to escalate and grow. We will continue to advise our US based clients to avoid investment in Ontario for ever. Too many problems generated by multiculturalism and untrustworthy Liberals and Socialists. Most go to the State of New York, which will continue for decades. Don't throw any more rocks at cats, Munroe. Jeez - Macleod

Posted by: Jack Macleod | 2007-07-13 11:07:46 AM


Actually, personal income tax was brought in as a "temporary"measure brought in during World War I. The Prime Minister? Conservative Sir Robert Borden. But don't let facts disturb a good rant.
Next up? Lady enthusiastically tells us how "lefties" made the dinosaurs go extinct.

Posted by: Don | 2007-07-13 11:07:46 AM


Lady, when you organize a Canadian replay of "Ruby Ridge", let me know so I can watch. Maybe you can get Michael Walker to be there with you.

Posted by: munroe | 2007-07-13 11:09:30 AM


His fiscal policies and successes have already been explained far better than I could have done.
He COMMUTED Libby's sentence, unlike Clinton who handed out EXECUTIVE PARDONS.
I have no idea where you come up with torture, illegal wiretapping and suspension of habeas corpus.
His actions in Iraq are being hampered by a Left-Wing vindictive Congress.
Finally,for the disregard of the historical role of president, I suggest you take a look at Jimmy Carter first.

Posted by: atric | 2007-07-13 11:11:25 AM


This is slightly off topic but posted for Jack "Windbag" Macleod

http://www.cbc.ca/money/story/2007/07/13/black-verdict.html?ref=rss

Posted by: St Albion Parish News | 2007-07-13 11:15:26 AM


Leftoids get their talking points from CBC and demented Leftoid blog sites. There never was illegal wiretapping, breaches of habeas corpus, and other falsehoods carried by the anti-Bush crowd. Anything they did do was not against Americans, but terrorists and their financiers.

There is one major difference between Clinton's pardons and W.'s clemency:

CLINTON WAS PAID FOR HIS ACTIONS!!!

A guy who walked in penniless to the White House is now worth over $40 million - not including his Chirac-like secret bank accounts overseas.

Posted by: obc | 2007-07-13 11:17:10 AM


Do you want to see how Leftists treat each other? Well, see this - and you'll realize why that cannot ever be trusted with power!

"Clinton, Edwards talk of limiting debate"

Democrats John Edwards and Hillary Rodham Clinton consider themselves among the top presidential candidates.

They were caught by Fox News microphones discussing their desire to limit future joint appearances to exclude some lower rivals after a forum in Detroit Thursday.

Edwards says, "We should try to have a more serious and a smaller group."

Clinton agrees, saying, "We've got to cut the number".

http://www.wluctv6.com/Global/story.asp?S=6784011

Posted by: obc | 2007-07-13 11:22:08 AM


And here is the response of Dennis Kucinich:

Kucinich Camp Outraged by 'Overheard' Plans of Clinton and Edwards to Eliminate Candidates from Future Presidential Debates, Forums

DETROIT, July 13 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/

Top campaign officials for Ohio Congressman and Democratic Presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich tonight expressed outrage that rival candidates Hillary Clinton and John Edwards were overheard collaborating on a strategy to eliminate other Democratic candidates from future debates and forums.

According to the Associated Press, Fox News Channel microphones picked up Clinton and Edwards on stage discussing their desire to limit future joint appearances to exclude some rivals lower in the crowded field. "We should try to have a more serious and a smaller group," Edwards said into Clinton's ear following a Presidential Forum in Detroit hosted by the NAACP on Thursday.

Clinton agreed with Edwards, according to print reports and video footage of the exchange. "We've got to cut the number. ... They're not serious," she said. Clinton added that she thought representatives of her campaign and Edwards' had already tried to limit the debates, and "we've gotta get back to it," according to the AP.

"Candidates, no matter how important or influential they perceive themselves to be, do not have and should not have the power to determine who is allowed to speak to the American public and who is not," said Kucinich.

"Imperial candidates are as repugnant to the American people and to our Democracy as an imperial President."

The Kucinich campaign will immediately take steps to address the planned actions of the Clinton and Edwards campaigns.

Posted by: obc | 2007-07-13 11:27:03 AM


obc, it's as the anti-privacy, pro-surveillance crowd has always said:

"If you're innocent, you have nothing to hide."

I applaud the efforts made by Mr. Harper to make the government more transparent and accountable in Canada. Anything that lets the people see how their government is working for them or failing them is a good thing. We deserve to know where our tax dollars are going and what is being done in our names.

Why do Mr. Cheney and Mr. Bush completely deny accountability and attempts to oversee their activities through legal means? It stinks as much as Chretien's secrecy, and you know it. Transparency in government is a good thing, and this has been the least transparent administration ever, by any measure. Even Richard Nixon admitted that he was lying to and keeping secrets from the American people.

It's time to see what's really been happening in Washington for the past seven years.

Posted by: Voice of Reason | 2007-07-13 11:58:43 AM


Before examining the past seven years, I would suggest they first start with the eight years prior. Like why so many records went missing, why so many people ended up dead, why so many rape allegations etc.

Posted by: atric | 2007-07-13 12:18:21 PM


I always laugh when some gay blade from Toronto the sodomy capital of the free world refers to William Jefferson Clinton Oxon as a fellow lefty Clinton aint
to the left of anything except the left side of Monica Lewinsky's ample bod. Same guys think the venerable Liberal Party of Canada is on the left, what a surprise they are in for, (like finding out the Tooth Fairy" has HIV AIDS - Saint Alabasters Parochial Bulletin is getting somewhat pissed off
Lord Black of Crossover Whatever ain't through with his "Trial" -best part will be the Appeal
-based on an analysis of Judicial Errors plus the defination of the Jury as his "peers" If Saint Alabsters really knew the history of the venerable "Private Eye" they/he would realize that a crude Canadian from Toronto the disgusting would not even get through their front door. MacLeod laughing in Moncton

Posted by: Jack Macleod | 2007-07-13 12:40:45 PM


Jack, at least you're following the news. The best part of Black's trial will be the appeal? Can't say I understand what you mean.

Need to wait awhile yet to see where Conrad will be waiting. Greenspan apparently thinks it would be okay for Black to join your friends in Toronto and report to his (Greenspan's office) every day. My guess is that the American judge won't see Eddie as a parole officer and will have some concern about allowing Black to while away his time in a foreign country. Far more likely is he will be a guest of the United States, either on a tight leash or join other convicted felons in the hooscow.

Posted by: munroe | 2007-07-13 12:55:27 PM


Jack Macleod wrote: I always laugh when some gay blade from Toronto the sodomy capital of the free world refers to William Jefferson Clinton Oxon as a fellow lefty Clinton aint .........................

Jack just incoherently babbles on and on and on and on until he starts foaming at the mouth then passes out in his chair. Anyways Jack look at the bright side of New Brunswick, you're poor, but not as poor as the Newfies. And the economy should be doing alright for the next few weeks ferrying Ontario motorists to Boston. Have a nice weekend.

Posted by: St Albion Parish News | 2007-07-13 1:04:20 PM


The vast Irving Empire headquartered in "poor" New Brunswick don't think New Brunswick is "poor"-Toronto the multiculturism centre of sodomy and crime is poor, that's what we say in New Brunswick when some unwary immigrants get offed by another immigrant or immigrants, or illegal refugee
Jeez some poor asshole in Toronto got shot sixty eight times by his half brother and his sister. Terrific spot. Don't need no Torontonions in New Brunswick the pristine. Is sodomy in Toronto the same as Incest? standard operating procedure in the Green Party -keeping it the environmental family one might say. MacLeod hoping you continue to be pissed off, in Moncton New Brunswick

Posted by: Jack Macleod | 2007-07-13 1:20:47 PM


atric--

Sure, let's dig into the Clinton presidency too, and Bush Sr. and Reagan while we're at it. I'm sure every single one would reveal shocking and horrible things. Let's open it all up. I think the current Bush is the right place to start though, because he's building even higher walls to keep out the eyes of voters.

I'm no fan of Harper, but I think he's done terrific work in improving public oversight in Canada. I'd love to see the same thing happen in the States. Accountability and openness are good things no matter what party they're exposing or who brings them about.

Posted by: Voice of Reason | 2007-07-13 1:25:48 PM


Jack Macleod wrote: The vast Irving Empire headquartered in "poor" New Brunswick don't think New Brunswick is "poor"

And probably don't care as their money is in Bermuda.

Jack Macleod wrote Jeez some poor asshole in Toronto got shot sixty eight times by his half brother and his sister.

What was he using to shoot him 68 times, a Red Ryder?

Posted by: St Albion Parish News | 2007-07-13 1:44:47 PM


Monroe wrote: Need to wait awhile yet to see where Conrad will be waiting.

Several US lawyers are predicting Black will serve 9 - 10 years

http://www.cbc.ca/money/story/2007/07/13/blacksentence.html?ref=rss

Posted by: St Albion Parish News | 2007-07-13 2:01:39 PM


I see that, St. A. Interestingly, I read about an interview with a Canadian lawyer who said it would likely be 4 years, less statuatory release time, etc. if it was here. As I understand in the States you serve at least 80% (but can't verify that).

Sentencing s not until November 30th and there is this major question about Black's accomodations before then.

I see Steyn is focused on the not guilty parts of the verdict. I'll be interested to see his spin which I'm sure Levant, O'Neill or Commander Winston will post for support here.

Funny how all te others have buried themselves in the religious thread. It wasn't long ago that Lord Cross Harbour's trial was a central blog issue. Looks like old Bush has been abandoned as well.

Posted by: munroe | 2007-07-13 2:27:12 PM


I see that, St. A. Interestingly, I read about an interview with a Canadian lawyer who said it would likely be 4 years, less statuatory release time, etc. if it was here. As I understand in the States you serve at least 80% (but can't verify that).

Sentencing is not until November 30th and there is this major question about Black's accomodations before then.

I see Steyn is focused on the not guilty parts of the verdict. I'll be interested to see his spin which I'm sure Levant, O'Neill or Commander Winston will post for support here.

Funny how all te others have buried themselves in the religious thread. It wasn't long ago that Lord Cross Harbour's trial was a central blog issue. Looks like old Bush has been abandoned as well.

Posted by: munroe | 2007-07-13 2:28:02 PM


Monroe wrote: Funny how all te others have buried themselves in the religious thread.

I'm surprised that the significance of this "relic" hasn't been raised yet.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4034787.stm

Posted by: St Albion Parish News | 2007-07-13 2:35:34 PM


Monroe wrote: Sentencing is not until November 30th and there is this major question about Black's accomodations before then.

But as Black is now a convicted felon, I wonder if we'll have calls for his execution from obc.

Posted by: St Albion Parish News | 2007-07-13 2:40:28 PM


"If you're innocent, you have nothing to hide."

Gee, then why doesn't Coca Cola just publish their recipe for all to see?

When the US wages a war on secretive terrorists, it is very wise NOT to reveal all that is going on to thwart them.

Posted by: obc | 2007-07-13 2:53:37 PM


I see O'Neill has posted a Black thread. Over we go....

Posted by: munroe | 2007-07-13 2:57:13 PM


In the creal world Edward Greenspan QC and Associates will undertake a due diligence on the Judge and the Jury -looking for flaws. Reminds me of the days of Clarence Darrow and James J. Fallon (The Great Mouthpiece) - be a great book for a author of the calibre of the author of "Kennedy For The Defence" and "The Friends of Eddie Coyle. I'll bet Grisham is looking at this fiasco to put permanent
international screws into the Judge, who will be under an intense microscope for years - I wonder if she has a boyfriend or girlfriend, or both. But her career with Valium is just about to start. Jurors will be looking over their shoulders for years. and will think about life in Mexico. This entire "Trial" is a blatant misuse of the Judicial process -Lawyer and Author Grisham will have a blockbuster with this. Trouble is CTV are using the village slut to report from Chicago, no surprise to me and my Catholic Parochial education
-where all female journalists are suspect. Senior Liberals in Ottawa used to call them "The Whores On The Hill" MacLeod

Posted by: Jack MacLeod | 2007-07-13 3:07:09 PM


News from Iraq today:

Iraqi police open fire on US troops. Bush can continue to drone on and on about why Americans must continue to die for the good of the worthless, barbaric Iraqi people, and even his formerly staunch neocon supporters aren't listening any more. As far as I'm concerned, I'd rather see the entire good-for-nothing, no-account Iraqi nation wiped off the face of the Earth than for one more brave American soldier die for nothing in that evil land. LEAVE NOW!

Posted by: JP | 2007-07-13 3:16:20 PM


"LEAVE NOW" -

. . . and allow Al Qaeda to take over without opposition.

Posted by: obc | 2007-07-13 3:19:01 PM


But let's not say anything about Canadian corruption, eh?

Nicholas Young, Maurice Strong, China
Shilling for Communism on Canadian International Development Agency money

By Judi McLeod

It should come as no surprise that Canadian International Development Agency (CIDA) money bankrolled an electronic newsletter persistently defending China’s Communist regime.

CIDA’s founding father is none other than longtime UN poster boy and Kyoto architect, Canadian Maurice Strong. At least two Canadian prime ministers and the power behind the throne in the latter day PMO figure prominently in the ongoing affairs of the state-owned China International Trust and Investment Group Corp. (CITIC), which is “the communist regime’s most politically connected financial and industrial conglomerate.”

CITIC counts among its advisors former Prime Minister Jean Chrétien’s son-in-law Andre Desmarais of the Montreal-based Power Corp. China booster Maurice Strong is a former Power Corp. CEO, who hired former Prime Minister Paul Martin during his Power Corp. tenure.

Pick up almost any Chinese rock and you’re going to find another Canadian political snake slithering away.

http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/cover071307.htm

Posted by: obc | 2007-07-13 3:25:02 PM


obc, right, we don't want sensitive security operations out in the open. This is why the US has branches of the court with security clearance designed to provide oversight for wiretapping and surveillance without opening things to the public. For instances where speed is of the essence, these courts can retroactively approve wiretapping operations, allowing them to continue for up to two days without a warrant. The judges on these courts are available night and day, as well, meaning that getting approval within the 48 hour window is very reasonable.

Unfortunately, the FBI and NSA have been ignoring these courts and just proceeding with the wiretaps with absolutely no oversight, even for domestic calls. Who are they listening to and why? No one knows except these organizations, not even the judges whose job it is to give approval for such operations. This is wrong. According to that loony leftoid liberal traitor Benjamin Franklin, "those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

And what about the prosecutor purge? Why is that a matter of national security that should allow executive privilege? Ignoring the subpoenas issued by Congress in this case is simply dodging accountability, plain and simple.

Posted by: Voice of Reason | 2007-07-13 3:27:01 PM


"And what about the prosecutor purge?"

Where were you when Clinton fired all 93 prosecutors on one day? Where was the media outcry then? Oh, that's right. He was a DemoRat and W. is a Republican - who fired only 8.

These prosecutors serve at the President's pleasure. No executive ordered was used to axe them. Not necessary - President's pleasure - that's the law.

Posted by: obc | 2007-07-13 3:31:41 PM


VOR said-Sure, let's dig into the Clinton presidency too, and Bush Sr. and Reagan while we're at it. I'm sure every single one would reveal shocking and horrible things. Let's open it all up. I think the current Bush is the right place to start though, because he's building even higher walls to keep out the eyes of voters.

I don't see any "higher walls" being built by Dubya that weren't already built by the likes of Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, et al.
Truman - A Bomb.
Eisenhower- Cold War
Kennedy- Bay of Pigs
Johnson- Viet Nam
All thse incidents were real threats to the Western World, just like the Muslim jihad is to us today. I applaud George W. Bush for doing what he thinks is right to counteract this insidious
threat to our way of life. Note that the majority of those named above were Democrats. The Democratic Party has been hijacked by the Left and we are the poorer for it.By the way,Raegan tore down walls, he didn't erect them, much to the satisfaction of the people of Eastern Eurpoe.

Posted by: atric | 2007-07-13 4:09:49 PM


"By the way,Raegan tore down walls, he didn't erect them, much to the satisfaction of the people of Eastern Europe."

Well put!

Also, keep in mind that anything the New York Slimes can lay its hands on that is secretive in nature gets splashed on its front page the very next day. Of course secrecy is needed in this war - not just to keep it from the enemy, but from their allies in the media.

Posted by: obc | 2007-07-13 4:19:38 PM


Gee, OBC, I guess there must be an exception for those weird websites you like to link with so often, eh.

Posted by: munroe | 2007-07-13 4:23:26 PM


More news from Iraq today:

The Iraqi parliament plan to take the month of August off. Hey, why not, they spent the last 11 months looting the US taxpayers money for "reconstruction" and that's hard work, so both the parliamentarians and the taxpayers could use a break. Unfortunately, US soldiers don't get a vacation.

The US-based Iraqi Shi'ite writer Khudayr Taher, who recently called for a total ban on Muslim immigration and for all Western Muslims (including himself) to be deported, is a former associate of Iraqi PM Maliki. He says Maliki is privately an anti-American and an Islamist. So while the Iraqi government are taking their month-long holiday spending oodles of stolen American loot, US soldiers will be fighting and dying for a regime headed by an anti-American Islamist. That's how ridiculous the Iraq War has become.

Think about that, pro-war people. There is no possible victory in this war, only degrees of loss. Let's leave now and limit our losses.

Posted by: JP | 2007-07-13 5:36:27 PM


. . . and allow Al Qaeda to walk in and declare victory. Great Plan!

Posted by: obc | 2007-07-13 5:43:51 PM


JP wrote:That's how ridiculous the Iraq War has become.

It didn't really follow the neocon plan did it. And to think that they wanted to do much the same throughout the ME.

Posted by: St Albion Parish News | 2007-07-13 5:54:25 PM


This one's for OBC. Saving your pennies, the cruise may happen again.

Posted by: munroe | 2007-07-13 6:01:58 PM


obc,

Al Qaeda are a Sunni Muslim movement. In Iraq, 60%-65% of the population are Shi'ite. Let them fight it out and destroy each other. It's their country after all.

That's my position, what's yours? That US soldiers should continue to die on behalf of an anti-American Islamist kleptocracy? Please explain.

Posted by: JP | 2007-07-13 6:02:00 PM



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