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Wednesday, July 04, 2007

Could Link Byfield be greener than David Suzuki? In this case, yes.

The other day, I came home to find an envelope from the David Suzuki Foundation, full of environmentalist advertising,  nestled amongst my mail. The envelope, sent out in Dr. Suzuki's name from his Vancouver-based foundation,  boasted that it was "Printed on 100% post-consumer waste recycled fibre. Processed chlorine  and acid free."  However, I also knew that the materials were sent out as part of a mass distribution to my neighborhood because the back of the envelope also reads:

If you are already one of our supporters-thank you! Please pass my letter on to a

Even though the materials might be earth friendly, I considered that it is surely is a waste of time for the David Suzuki Foundation to send out a mail-out that might go unread. Particularly one written in English sent to a heavily ethic part of town, such as my own.

And then I thought of my old boss, Link Byfield.

Mr. Byfield now operates a provincial rights think tank. He keeps me informed of his doings by e-mail and has never sent me any envelopes full of materials, even though he may suspect that I may sympathize with his goals enough to contribute. For that matter, in all my experiences with small-c conservative or religious groups I  always have to  ask to be put on a mailing list to get any materials, so that the group in question knows that they won't be wasting resources by sending me things.

I understand that the "green" saying is "Reduce. Reuse. Recycle." Perhaps Mr. Byfield can give Dr. Suzuki some handy suggestions in that regard.

Posted by Rick Hiebert on July 4, 2007 in Science | Permalink


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Well Rick, the information is interesting. It is telling. Byfield has such a small and select group of true believers, knows them all and can use email. His message only appeals to a narrow few and it would be a waste to do mass mailings.

Suzuki has much broader appeal and is reaching out. He has a far greater audience and people of all types (except Shotgun neocons) want to hear the information.

What's your point?

Posted by: munroe | 2007-07-04 10:10:49 PM

Suzuki has bags of cash and huge government subsidies from the taxpayer - it doesn't matter to him how much gets wasted, the money's rolling in.

Posted by: philanthropist | 2007-07-04 11:15:22 PM

Philanthropist's (and I'am Pist's) comment about Suzuki's bags of cash from the government. You are aware the Harper has the purse strings right?
Remember the earth is only six thousand years old
and the rapture is coming so we won't have time to spoil the enviroment Stephen? Harper was just dragged (barely) into enviro-consciousness recently when polls showed he couldn't get re- elected without some green on him. Remember his original enviroment minister couldn't open her mouth and now his current one can't keep his shut?Does that man ever speak in nuanced tones?

I doubt harper is stuffing Dave's pockets with cash, I bet there hardly speaking. ( See Dave on Rick Mercer comment on Harper's anatomically impossible relationship with his (Harper's)like minded or weak minded envrio ally Dubya. )

Posted by: canadista | 2007-07-05 2:11:26 AM

Suzuki is another Warm Monger. Are both his homes eco friendly - including the one by the ocean?


Posted by: obc | 2007-07-05 6:19:03 AM

Wel, I see the usual suspects have come out from under their rock bright and early today.
When are you people going to proffer up a good retort without resorting to trashing "Harper", "Dubya" and "Neocons"? I, for one am getting bored with the repetition.

Posted by: Gerry Atric | 2007-07-05 7:16:34 AM

"munroe" + "canadista" - these Suzuki / Gore apologists never cease to amaze me with their hypocrisy.

fyi - it is the conservative party of canada that has raised the most money of any party (read the f*ckin news, if you can "munroe") far more than any other party, mostly from small donors... a lot more than Scam Suzuki with his two houses and idling Greyhound (on `eco-tour') will ever attract...

why don't you go back under your Babble.ca or Daily Krap rock whence you came...

Posted by: Roundhead | 2007-07-05 8:00:32 AM

I hope I get some mail from Suzuki. I will simply send it back unopened to him. Suzuki will therefore be increasing GHG's due to the energy that will be expended in having sent his propaganda both ways.

Posted by: John Luft | 2007-07-05 8:19:24 AM

Why anyone would care what David (not a climatologist but I play one on TV) Suzuki says vis-a-vis global warming is beyond me. Like his fellow eco-commie Al (buy your carbon credits from me folks) Gore, Suzuki has a sasquatch-sized carbon footprint while demanding that the rest of us live like pre-industrial peasants. When anthropological global warming is proven beyond doubt to be false, I wonder what hucksterish eco-scam these phonies will come up with next? Something that will further line their own pockets no doubt.

Posted by: JP | 2007-07-05 9:06:41 AM


You live in Canada... You are a serf not a peasant... And you shall do as your masters tell you or else...

Posted by: Daniel | 2007-07-05 9:17:16 AM

I'm sure aging hippie munroe will be pleased that Algore's son was picked up on drug possessions charges.

Far out man. Groovy.

That's showin' it to the man, his oppressor father Algore.

Posted by: set you free | 2007-07-05 9:18:50 AM

This article reminds me of an email I sent to Stephane Dion. I asked him if he had called Jack Layton to ask if he would help reduce the tax on income trusts. It was a simple question. Yes or no response. But the assistant replied asking for my home address so Dion could MAIL me a reply. I thought, is this the man who purports to be for the environment? I replied asking why he could not reply in email (I also pointed out that it wasn't very environmentally friendly to be mailing unnecessary items). They again requested my home address. I didn't bother with them again.

Posted by: GGF | 2007-07-05 9:53:19 AM


We must all submit to the 5 pillars of Environmental-Islam:

1. Profession of the faith: There is no God but Gaia and Al Gore is her prophet.

2. The five daily prayers: Believing Environmental-Islamists must prostrate themselves while facing the Holy Place, Kyoto.

3. Believers must pay alms ("zakat"): 2.5% of one's total wealth must purchase carbon credits from the Prophet Gore-hammed (your cash be upon him).

4. Observe Earth Day: Believers must abstain from eating, drinking, smoking, impure thoughts and sexual intercourse from dawn until sunset on the Holy Day.

5. The pilgrimmage: All believers must undertake a pilgrimmage to the Holiest of Holy Places, Kyoto, at least once during their lifetimes.

Only true-believing Prius-drivers and composters will be allowed to enter Eco-Paradise and sit at the left hand of Gaia, the compassionate and the merciful and the recycler-in-chief.

Posted by: JP | 2007-07-05 10:00:22 AM



I have always believed in a minimalist lifestyle, but I never try to impose my beliefs on anybody else, since it is impossible to impose something the imposee is unwilling to accept.

A point utopians will never understand.

Posted by: set you free | 2007-07-05 10:14:05 AM


Convert or be composted?

Posted by: Daniel | 2007-07-05 10:30:51 AM

Behead those who insult the Prophet Gore-hammed!

It's interesting that the big Earth concert is scheduled for the second anniversary of the 7/7 London bombings. Yet another convergence of Environmentalism and Islam.

Infidel polluters, you will pay!
Eco-jihadists are on their way!

Posted by: JP | 2007-07-05 10:44:45 AM

I disagree with #4. I think it should be:

4. Observe Earth Day: Believers must either travel in gas guzzling buses to view musical concerts or attend some hoity-toity affair where they serve sushi flown from Japan from dawn until sunset on the Holy Day. Special eco-powers will be given if you do both.

Posted by: GGF | 2007-07-05 11:59:14 AM

Gore the Third (Yes, Al Gore - peace be on him - was Junior and not George W. - but the media would not tell you that) is just following in Daddy's footsteps.

Gore, Jr. was a pothead for years. Newspeak Magazine had the goods on him in 2000 but sat on the story until after the election. Of course, when W. was revealed to have had a DWI 25 years before that same election, Newspeak ran with THAT story.

But there is no biased media.

Posted by: obc | 2007-07-05 2:58:58 PM

Nice to see you back and in fine fettle, OBC.
How was the Windy City?

Posted by: Atric | 2007-07-05 3:51:31 PM

Superb! I even had the pleasure of seeing the fireworks from my hotel window up to past eleven o'clock.

Today. I' Minneapolis where I just handed out some bumper stickers to a few interested parties. This state is not as Leftoid as some might think.

Posted by: obc | 2007-07-05 4:24:33 PM

Well, it seems some of the young folks are finally getting it:

"Arctic Monkeys Blast Eco 'Hypocrites'"

Top rock bands have boycotted today's Life Earth concerts saying the artists taking part are hypocrites.

Live Earth, organised by former US vice president and green campaigner Al Gore, takes place in seven cities worldwide - London, Sydney, Tokyo, Shanghai, Hamburg, Johannesburg and New York.

The concerts aim to raise global awareness of the dangers of climate warming. The Arctic Monkeys have become the latest band to question the merits of the concerts.

"Since the stage lighting alone would be enough to power 10 houses, it's all very hypocritical," said Arctic Monkeys drummer Matt Helders.


Posted by: obc | 2007-07-05 9:02:00 PM

Let there be NO light.

Posted by: set you free | 2007-07-05 9:54:50 PM

"Oldest DNA ever recovered shows warmer planet: report"

Scientists who probed two kilometers (1.2 miles) through a Greenland glacier to recover the oldest plant DNA on record said Thursday the planet was far warmer hundreds of thousands of years ago than is generally believed.

DNA of trees, plants and insects including butterflies and spiders from beneath the southern Greenland glacier was estimated to date to 450,000 to 900,000 years ago, according to the remnants retrieved from this long-vanished boreal forest.


So, let me get this straight:

It was hotter way back then, things cooled off for a long time and now it's getting warmer again. Sounds right - for a natural cycle theory, not the Globull Warming crapola.

Posted by: obc | 2007-07-06 7:12:22 AM

CTV's web page asks - in its latest poll - which of 8 cities that are participating in the Goracle's money-making scheme people will be watching this weekend. Here's what I just emailed them:

Your latest poll asks which city's music will you be watching this weekend?

How about: None of the Above - or are you assuming everyone will tune in?

I know I and my friends have better things to do, but I guess your poll is non-inclusive - and probably trying to skew the perception that many of us could care less about Globull Warming. SHEEEESH! The biggest hoax perpetrated by any group on humanity. Al Gore is a Warm Monger!

Posted by: obc | 2007-07-06 5:42:48 PM

And guess who's flying over a quarter million miles to help save the planet from Globull Warming?

Live Aid is promoting green to save the planet - what planet are they on?

As Madonna bounds on to the huge Wembley stage to save the planet, how the assembled Greenies will cheer.

The superstar is today fronting the massive Live Earth event, with nine concerts played over 24 hours across seven continents before an audience of two billion.

The most conservative assessment of the flights being taken by its superstars is that they are flying an extraordinary 222,623.63 miles between them to get to the various concerts - nearly nine times the circumference of the world.


Posted by: obc | 2007-07-06 6:00:17 PM

OBC, the link isn't very useful. I don't see any ticket information at all.

Posted by: munroe | 2007-07-06 6:08:05 PM

Just like you, eh?

Posted by: obc | 2007-07-06 6:10:58 PM

munroe wrote: OBC, the link isn't very useful. I don't see any ticket information at all.

It is amusing that ozzie likes to link to stories from the Daily Mail. I suspect he doesn't know that it used to be know as the Daily Heil, and that Lord Rothermere supported financially and politically the father of the current president of the FIA, before, during and after the war, and was good friends with the leaders of Italy and Germany in the late 30's. That tradition continues today with support of the BNP.

Posted by: St Albion Parish News | 2007-07-06 6:27:05 PM

...even endorsed Oswald Mosley in the '30s.

Posted by: munroe | 2007-07-06 7:01:09 PM

...even endorsed Oswald Mosley in the '30s.

That's who the father current President of the FIA is.

Posted by: St Albion Parish News | 2007-07-06 7:04:30 PM

Sorry, I wasn't aware. Genetic thing, I guess. So much for evolution.

Posted by: munroe | 2007-07-06 7:22:06 PM

And here's another factor that Globull Warming activists didn't figure into their "equation":

"Thousand of new volcanoes revealed beneath the waves"


Hmmm.Maybe the seas are warming because of this output?

Posted by: obc | 2007-07-09 5:28:33 PM

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