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Thursday, May 17, 2007

The global-warming emperor has no clothes

I look forward to Larry Solomon's weekly "Deniers" feature in the National Post, in which he profiles a prominent scientist who has not jumped on the man-made global-warming bandwagon or has recently jumped off.

Now, I see the deniers/doubters movement is being noted south of the border too. Marc Morano, communications director for U.S. Senator Jim Inhofe (R-Oklahoma), declares that "a remarkable momentum shift is taking place in global warming science." What sort of shift? "Many former believers in catastrophic man-made global warming have recently reversed themselves and are now climate skeptics."

Here's the link to the full text of the above statement, which includes an impressive list of some of those new skeptics.

[h/t to small dead animals]

Posted by Terry O'Neill on May 17, 2007 in Science | Permalink

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I am proud to say that I have been a denier since the beginning.

What a sham this thing is, governments all over the world are marvelling at how they finally found a way to have people beg to be taxed.

Al Gore is a fraud on a global scale, he arrives at the Academy Awards in a stretch limo, after arriving in his private plane, after leaving his home which burns 20 times the energy of a normal persons house, and subsequently tells you the world is melting! In attendance of this amazing spectacle is about 1000 dignitaries and actors who mostly arrived in the same manner as the inventor of the internet. Wow how compelling I must buy a horse now!

The Goracle and many others like him stand to make fortunes in the scam market that is going to be created known as the carbon credit exchange. All of these things are happening while people are saying yeah please tax me more, my suv is responsible for the death of a polar bear. What do you say? Heating for my house is going to triple, great do it please, I will wear polar fleece in my house during the winter.

Wake up people, this thing is an ingenious scam feeding off of guilt and false logic, the world is a robust organism that constantly changes, and it takes centuries for those changes to be realized. We are basically here for the ride, species have come and gone long before man arrived on the scene, and they will continue to come and go.

Does that mean we should be negligent and intentionally polute, no. We should be as responsible as possible with all of our resources, we should keep going with recycling programs, but none of this should come at the cost of bankrupting ourselves because some immoral scammers want your money and have found the way to guilt you out of it.

Posted by: niv | 2007-05-17 11:08:06 AM


Yesterday, I heard a report that the European carbon trading market is about to fall apart.

Seems the market price has plunged to around a dollar a ton and those revenues are not enough to support the bureaucracy needed to effect the trades.

Hahahahahahahaha.

What a bunch of half-wits.

Posted by: Set you free | 2007-05-17 11:14:31 AM


Yeh, Gore was against Kyoto before he was for it in his great act of opportunism. In 1997 he had a common sense approach and felt it wrong to sign on if the big polluters like India and China were no signing on.

Looks like he lost his common sense in the past ten years and opted for personal glory.

He got his short spell of glory, now he will have to start the long climb to credibility.
His gall knows no bounds to call Canada's efforts to curb GHG's a fraud when he himself may prove to be the biggest fraud on the subject.

He may make a few bucks to fund his run for the White House if he doesn't get found out first.

Posted by: LizJ | 2007-05-17 11:43:57 AM


BREAKING NEW ! ! !

Israeli researcher discovers new fungus that could provide low-cost alternative fuel
By Ilana Teitelbaum May 15, 2007

Since the popularity of Al Gore's documentary An Inconvenient Truth - one of the top-grossing documentaries in the United States - it has become clear that concern for global warming is widespread in America. In his film, Gore predicts a series of catastrophes that would result from the continued progress of global warming, including the melting of massive glaciers in the Himalayas. Carbon emissions, produced by motor vehicles, are the leading cause of global warming, and the quest for alternative fuels is now a hot topic worldwide.

Israeli researcher Dr. Amir Sharon of Tel Aviv University is on the trail. Sharon has discovered a transgenic fungus strong enough to convert even the most resilient plant parts into bioethanol, a chemical used for biofuel. Strengthened with an anti-death gene, this fungus is resistant to harsh conditions such as heat and toxic substances - both of which are released while converting plant biomass into ethanol. As a result, the production of ethanol using this transgenic fungus could be much more efficient than with conventional fungi.

http://lucianne.com/main2.asp?fcnt=340284&lcnt=340309&crank=1

Meantime - while the Jeeeeeeeeews are inventing, discovering, and curing, the Arab world is . . .
hmmmmm..... I can't think of anything just now, but I'm sure something will come to me.

Posted by: obc | 2007-05-17 1:06:35 PM


The global-warming-caused-by-human-activity movement will vanish as quickly as it appeared a scant decade ago.

Like all false religions, it could not withstand the test of time.

RIP Goracle and Snoozuki. You are now dead men walking and nobody is listening.

Nay, they are listening and they are laughing at your absurd premises like they laugh at all conspiracy theories past and present.

Still, the dreamers of an alternate universe, the utopians, those who cannot or will not understand the true human nature, will never disappear.

They'll still have their drugs to mask their self-imposed despondencey and will continue to find more impressionable youth to carry on their impossible dream.

But as a power on earth, they will go the way of thousands before them who sought power over others through deception.

Snake oil, where is thy sting?

Posted by: Set you free | 2007-05-17 2:17:51 PM


The problem with these "new" skeptics is that none of them are new. Reid Bryson has never accepted the science, for example--he's been denying since the 1990s.

In fact, Inhofe released an almost identical press release about the same time last year.

Posted by: bigcitylib | 2007-05-17 2:24:36 PM


bigcity:

Almost identical press release?

Sounds like the Goracle.

Posted by: Set you free | 2007-05-17 2:28:19 PM


"Inhofe released an almost identical press release about the same time last year."

You mean he's sticking to his guns about what he believes? How about that!

Posted by: obc | 2007-05-17 3:20:35 PM


"he's been denying since the 1990s."

Upon re-reading this, I realize that the word "denying" is newspeak among these Enviroweenies. They are all using it, like Religious folks use the word "blasphemy". But that shouldn't be surprising to us who already recognize that environmentalism is a religion that they believe in devoutly - as devoutly as a Christian or a Jew believes in G-d.

In fact the truer an environmentalist is to his green theology, the more likely he is an atheist.

Posted by: obc | 2007-05-17 3:32:20 PM


obc:

What next?

They'll be worshipping rocks or some other inanimate object.

Come to think of it, the average house plant exhibits more smarts than the mantra-chanting enviroweenies.

Posted by: Set you free | 2007-05-17 3:34:41 PM


What? Have you already forgotten about the pet rock craze? It's only a matter of time before they bring them down from the attic, dress them in a pink sweater made of lace, and coo to them, moaning how the planet would be so much healthier if all humans could be a rock like him - or her - or it.

Posted by: obc | 2007-05-17 3:38:45 PM


I can't say if global warming is happening or not. I'm not a climatologist or even have a scientific background that would allow me to evaluate the evidence.

I am, however, knowledgeable about what is right and wrong. I can evaluate, and have evaluated the proposed solutions. Kyoto sucks. It is a terrible and ineffective solution that would cause far greater problems than it would solve. No government would long survive the demands made on the taxpayer. All because tax money was sent abroad to pay for Kyoto. The worst part is that the money would go to waste because no enforcement mechanism exists to compel recipient countries to change their ways.

if Kyoto were implemented, there would be no more money for schools, hospitals, and universities. The military would be effectively ruined. No more medicare. infrastructure would collapse, but since no one could afford a car, or have a job to drive to, this is incidental.

So much for the 'socialism' that the pro-Kyoto people espouse. Even Chretien, the second worst PM ever and THE most corrupt, saw this as a bad idea - so he sat on it. All of a sudden, Dion is Mr. Kyoto (well his dog is!)? I expect that kind of insanity from Layton and May, but this is crazy.

Ontario's exemption is an atrocity. If global warming is truly a global problem, then everyone must be on board. No special deals for anyone. I can't blame them for trying. The Ontario economy is in steep competition with the US and cannot afford additional burdens. If global warming is as serious as said, then they must be involved for the sake of humanity. But Ontarians have always put the needs of their corporate masters above that of the human race - it explains the racism inherent in their society.

Posted by: Zebulon Pike | 2007-05-17 4:50:55 PM


"The military would be effectively ruined."

This is a major plus to the Leftoids!

Posted by: obc | 2007-05-17 4:55:03 PM


obc: http://www.cafepress.com/globaldenier

That link has t-shirts with "Global Warming Denier" on it. Oddly enough they're sold out!

Posted by: Zebulon Pike | 2007-05-17 4:56:46 PM


It means, obc, that he sends out the same news release with the same names on it every year and keeps calling it "new". Keeps fooling the same old suckers, though.

Posted by: bigcitylib | 2007-05-17 7:19:19 PM


bigcitylib,
Especially those suckers who still believe there is a "consensus", eh?

Posted by: h2o273kk9 | 2007-05-17 7:22:32 PM


The truth does not change from year to year - except in Leftoid Land.

In ten years the oceans will flood coastal cities. Just yesterday, it was updated to five years. By next week, we'll be lucky if it's only a few months away.

Posted by: obc | 2007-05-17 7:23:31 PM


obc: don't forget - Canada's international reputation is suffering because of the hesitation on Kyoto.

(Yeah, among Greenpeacers and other eco-nuts! Why should ordinary people pay for Kyoto with their jobs and futures just so some lefties can hold their heads high?)

Oh, and it is our international obligation to comply with Kyoto. The UN can impose sanctions on Canada because of Kyoto.

(Oh yeah, I'm scared of the UN! What're they going to do - reprimand? censure! NO! Not censure!)

The pro-Kyoto people are destroying their cause with this pointless banter. If Global Warming was as serious as they say, they would abandon Kyoto and find a better way. Of course, for them, the anti-capitalist Kyoto treaty is their dream idea - siphon off billions from the 'rich' countries and give it to the 'poor' developing countries (whose dictators will use the money for their own needs.)

Pathetic.

Posted by: Zebulon Pike | 2007-05-17 7:53:59 PM


BREAKING NEWS ! ! !

"Sun of a gun"

http://calsun.canoe.ca/News/Columnists/Corbella_Licia/2007/05/18/4189659.html

Posted by: obc | 2007-05-18 7:01:08 AM


obc:

The truth does not change period.

Leftoid-land had deluded themselves into believing they can legislate a perfect world, a utopia.

Much of their effort is spent in attempting to rip down universal truths and replacing them with a flavour-of-the-day delusion.

It's never worked at any point in history and it won't work now.

Be prepared for even more outrageous charges and vicious personal attacks.

These dreamers are perfect in their own minds and the rest of us are unworthy. Sigh!

Posted by: Set you free | 2007-05-18 7:45:43 AM


Money and power are the raison d'être of this religious cult. Fact is there is no certainty that the climate is warming. There is disagreement about whether we are in a warming cycle or a cooling cycle.

I much prefer the warming cycle and hope to see the return of a tropical climate to western Canada.

Posted by: Alain | 2007-05-18 10:22:16 AM


Alain:

The point is, the enviro-nuts have failed the test of time in less than a blink of an eye.

What a pitiful attempt!

Posted by: Set you free | 2007-05-18 10:29:20 AM


BREAKING NEWS ! ! !

"Carbon dioxide, storm strength not linked, Gray says"

http://www.floridatoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070519/NEWS04/705190328/1006/NEWS01

Posted by: obc | 2007-05-19 8:10:19 AM


BREAKING NEWS ! ! !

"Global warming debunked"

http://www.stuff.co.nz/timaruherald/4064691a6571.html

"Climate change will be considered a joke in five years time, meteorologist Augie Auer told the annual meeting of Mid Canterbury Federated Farmers in Ashburton this week."

Posted by: obc | 2007-05-19 12:46:46 PM


obc:

Why wait for five year?

I'm laughing at them right now.

Posted by: Set you free | 2007-05-19 12:57:21 PM


I've been laughing at global warming for the past five years. It's a scam, pure and simple.

Posted by: Zebulon Pike | 2007-05-19 1:02:54 PM


I notice that the debunking deniers are nowhere to be seen here of late, now that we've demonstrated that this is not a done deal, like their prophet Algore has said.

Posted by: obc | 2007-05-19 1:06:33 PM


Kinda reminds me of the biblical stories of what the people used to do to false prophets.

They would surround them and throw stones at them until they were dead.

We're much more civilized of course, but some things never change. The false prophets are always stoned.

Posted by: Set you free | 2007-05-19 1:18:36 PM


"The false prophets are always stoned."

LOL!! Reminds me that Al Gore was a pothead for years!

Posted by: obc | 2007-05-19 1:34:07 PM


The words of that great sage of our times, Obi-wan Kenobi, apply well to Gore's supporters:

Who's the more foolish: The fool, or the fool who follows him?

Posted by: Zebulon Pike | 2007-05-19 1:42:50 PM


obc:

Yep, it is kinda funny in a way.

In ancient times, false prophets were stoned after they spoke.

Today, false prophets are stoned BEFORE they speak.

Posted by: set you free | 2007-05-19 2:15:07 PM


syf~

lol !

Posted by: obc | 2007-05-19 3:25:10 PM


This article is quite misleading, the fact that the linked document refers to a senetor's own opinon piece.

It's quite true (and indicated from some of the text written up for each scientist) that there is no point in history where we have seen an increase in CO2 that initially caused the planet to heat up.

Generally the CO2 rise happens as a result of a trigger, which has been several other things in the history of the planet. Normally the CO2 release is part of the feedback effect that occurs when somthing has triggered the planet into heating.

Unfortunatly for us, we have pre-empted this release by generating extreamly high and abnormal releases of CO2 (and methan) into the atmosphere. So we have triggered the heating event and not only will there be a feedback effect that generates more CO2 (and methane), but we are far from halting our own generation. If you want to know more about the feedback effect start looking up frozen methane, the ice caps, and permafrost.

I implore each of you to read more than opinion pieces on this. I'm sure that before a decade is out you will all be so very angry with people for trying to convince you otherwise.

Posted by: Christopher Masiero | 2007-05-28 1:23:17 AM


Chris,
"I implore each of you to read more than opinion pieces on this. I'm sure that before a decade is out you will all be so very angry with people for trying to convince you otherwise."

Umm, most here have read more than an opinion piece. Personally, I started by reading actual physics books, computer modelling, etc.

I won't be angry at all. I will be dispassionately verifying the science wherever it leads. Thanks for your emotional appeal, however.

Posted by: h2o273kk9 | 2007-05-28 5:48:32 AM


"I'm sure that before a decade is out you will all be so very angry with people"

Yeah - with Suzuki and Gore for misleading you into believing that the sky is falling after having taken your money for meaningless methods to resolve this hoax.

Posted by: obc | 2007-05-28 7:53:54 AM



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