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Thursday, March 01, 2007
Paul Hellyer's bizarre demand, that governments make known global-warming-fighting secrets they have obtained from UFOs, has earned this country's former defence minister some prime space on today's Drudge Report.
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I wonder if he was that whacked-out when he was busy destroying the Canadian Military, unifying the forces, throwing out service traditions, forcing them to be publicly humiliated by having to wear their new standardized rent-a-cop green uniforms? It took almost thirty years to undo most of his damage done to the Military.
Posted by: John Chittick | 2007-03-01 10:01:19 AM
Oh but how he does do the Liberals proud, and right at home with them.
Posted by: Alain | 2007-03-01 10:35:26 AM
My God is Corporal Hellyer still around. He and that fool Pearson destroyed our Union Flag, which the soldiers in World War I, II and Korea called the "Jack Flag" (with the Union Jack In The Corner) virtually destroyed the Canadian Military, did destroy the Royal Canadian Navy (which is still the RCN in our House)In our House the RCAF Ensign with the Union Jack in the corner is the only flag on our mantle. Hellyer was considered a certifiable nut case by the Military during his destruction of some of our finest and most historic Canadian Army Regiments. He remains a nut case. MacLeod He was of course a Toronto Liberal.
Posted by: Jack Macleod | 2007-03-01 10:37:43 AM
I do not know about "around" but he is "round".
Scroll down, scroll waaaaaaayyyy down!
Posted by: Lady | 2007-03-01 10:43:00 AM
From what I have read, this guy is obsessed with UFO's and has been for quite some time. I believe he's just using the latest trendy glowball warming hype as another way to promote his UFO "theories".
Isn't there a nice quiet place where they could place him?
Posted by: Ralph Rattfuc | 2007-03-01 10:49:52 AM
Lady: Thanks for the color photographs - I was looking for Citoyen Dion, and Martin - Hellyer
was a humourless nerd when he was in Pearson's
government and actually ran for the Liberal leadership, which he really expected to win -
of course we all know who won. If he believes in
life beyond, he should join the Green Party - MacLeod
Posted by: Jack MacLeode | 2007-03-01 10:56:24 AM
He's 83. Tobad the media don't have the compassion to ignore him.
Posted by: lwestin | 2007-03-01 11:01:09 AM
Personally I think he would fit right in the current version of the "liberal" party.
Posted by: deepblue | 2007-03-01 11:06:20 AM
Somebody signal the mothership and tell them to beam poor Paul up. ET's gone over the Moon for good.
Posted by: Geoff Warren | 2007-03-01 11:37:37 AM
My thoughts exactly.
And the only reason he is mentioned here at all is because he is a lefty.Even very elderly,demented leftists are fair game for ridicule here.
I also see those who have made fun of his bizarre comments so far have conveniently ignored the fact he was a Tory for awhile.
Hmmmm.....I guess that's what they call an inconvenient truth.
Sorry to sidetrack you all.
Resume gratuitously bashing the left at will...
Posted by: Canadian Observer | 2007-03-01 12:49:30 PM
Where can we send him an application to the green party?
Posted by: Lady | 2007-03-01 12:54:14 PM
One thing you gotta hand Old Hellyer, he realizes there is no hope of doing anything about our climate and pollution here on earth under Kyoto so we need to go to ET, the Extraterrestrials may have the answers.
Hellyer has been beamed up for many moons.
I thought he had long gone to Moon-Bat heaven, surrounded by Stardust and moonbeams.
Posted by: Liz J | 2007-03-01 1:42:28 PM
The stuff dumped into Toronto and Ottawa media on
Hellyer was generated by Liberals of whom I suspect there are many, focused on undermining Citoyen Dion
the accidental for now "Leader". Hellyer over the years has become an eccentric. But he was never
"on the left" The Liberal Party of Canada is not
to the left of anything, never has been. Drop into
the Bay Street Brokers and Bankers who provide their money. The Liberals are into marketing. They got what some might call a "social conscience" starting in 1944 with Family Allowances, which were actually designed to undercut the threat from the West of the Progressives and Communists of
the period. The Nova Scotia Party for instance always maintained very close links with the ultra
conservative Roman Catholic Church, plus the CoOperatives and Credit Unions generated through
the Cody Institute at Saint FX Antigonish. The Liberal Party destroyed the CCF by stealing their platforms. If Hellyer had been considered "left"
he would have been thrown out of the Toronto Party
of the period (they threw out lots of better men than Hellyer) - Thus endth the lesson. MacLeod
Posted by: Jack Macleod | 2007-03-01 2:18:51 PM
If Hellyer is coming out with an alternative to
Kyoto from the realm of outer space it can do some
damage to Dion and his sidekicks.
I concur, there could be something sinister going on, the ethereal music is playing.
If Ignatieff is so bloody clever, what's he doing making a fool of himself hanging with that pack of fools?
Posted by: Liz J | 2007-03-01 2:33:55 PM
" The Liberal Party of Canada is not
to the left of anything, never has been"
I'll let that statement speak for itself.
Posted by: Canadian Observer | 2007-03-01 2:43:43 PM
Good point Liz - Ignatieff indeed - he looks very
uncomfortable in the odd news clip I pick up on the
net - most of the Liberals I know down here and in Toronto with the exception of New Brunswick Acadians
want to dump Citoyen Dion as quickly as possible, but do not want, nor can afford another Convention
-I think they would draft Ignatieff -but it's not a sure thing. I'm surprised that Ignatieff is not back in Harvard - my feeling is that Harper can pick up seats in all Atlantic Provinces except for PEI, although Wayne Easter is in trouble I understand. Macleod
Posted by: Jack MacLeod | 2007-03-01 2:46:35 PM
The fact is the Liberal party of today is all over the map, right, left and crooked, all things to all people, whatever it takes to get and keep power. That includes what we had with Adscam.
Their power hunger knows no bounds. They'd scam their Grannies.
Posted by: Liz J | 2007-03-01 2:48:08 PM
CO, I do not disagree with you but fail to see anyone attempting that Hellyer was once a red Tory. We have a history of so many claiming to be Conservatives while they could not have been any more red. Anyone remember Joe Clark marching with the sodomites?
None of this distracts from him being such a typical leftist moonbat.
Posted by: Alain | 2007-03-01 2:48:48 PM
Sorry. Should have read "attempting to hide that Hellyer was once a red Tory.
Posted by: Alain | 2007-03-01 2:50:36 PM
Ignatieff has been out of the country for a long time so he didn't realize that the Liberal part morphed from the party of the intelligentsia to a party of whacks and hacks.
Stephen Harper represents Canada's brain power now. Common sense has always been on the right of the political spectrum (Joke Lark notwithstanding)
This shift has been a long time coming since it takes awhile time to 'unscare' the sheeple from years of Liberal Boogie Man tactics.
Stephane Dion is my new favorite Martian.
Posted by: John | 2007-03-01 3:16:32 PM
Honorable Paul Hellyer PC MP ran for the Progressive Conservative Leadership - known in the Media as the Red Tories - a great gift for the Liberal's who destroyed them and Joe Clark - Liberals maintained power by making a patronage deal with the NDP -David Lewis of the period, thus destroyed their credibility -then along came Mulroney who virtually put the Tories out of business for good. The nearest
marketing entity in the real world to the Canadian Liberal Party (which in fact stands for nothing) -is that destroyer of retail souls, WalMart. But they have underestimated Harper, and now have a throw away leader.Problem is that many instant "delegates" who created Dion the leader represent
the Muslim Hordes which requires reconciliation
-Liberal Party is in real political trouble now
and I think that Harper is well aware of the drifting and unfocused Party "under" Dion the unready as he plans his election strategy. Harper has cleverly directed his strategies directly at the Canadian electorate who like and admire him
-only Trudeau had that kind of support in my lifetime - MacLeod
Posted by: Jack Macleod | 2007-03-01 3:30:27 PM
Resume gratuitously bashing the left? Okay.
"The Liberal Party is not to the left of anything, never has been."
Actually, to mind it's frequently been on the left side of the road where it's been a real hazard to oncoming traffic ever since (or especially since) the days of Pierre Elliot.
One more? An inconvenient truth? Okay. Lefties who think oblique references to Al Gore are clever deserve, well, Al Gore. Or Paul Hellyer. Or ET. Or....
Posted by: Geoff Warren | 2007-03-01 11:26:38 PM
It's beyond comprehension how the
Atlantic provinces remain loyal Liberals, in fact
One not really famous person used the term "dumber
than a bag of hammers", could that fairly describe the voters of our East Coast?
Too much contaminated fish getting to them or is it
Posted by: Liz J | 2007-03-02 6:46:15 AM
Atlantic Provinces of Canada are not a bastion for the Federal Liberals. The real Liberal strength of the Red Machine is in Ontario, in particular the large Metro areas. That is why Party and Government policy directed hordes of Immigrants to Ontario, who ironically now control the Party machinery. Harper
is poised to win seats down here in the East, it will depend on his Conservative Candidates, because each "election" will be fought on a local basis. There are only two "safe" Liberal seats in New Brunswick. One Liberal Seat in PEI is shaky.
Only Liberal Cape Breton seats are safe in N.S.
But problem Harper has is the incredibly stupid
Progressive Conservative Premier of Nova Scotia.
But PEI's Binns (an Alberta Native) is one of the best Premiers in Canada. NF LAB usually splits, but Rhodes Scholar Danny Millions is popular and very smart - may replace Harper some day. MacLeod
Posted by: Jack MacLeod | 2007-03-02 8:07:03 AM
It might be true that people at the lower end of the economic scale like to vote for the winner, as kind of their only hope of having some influence. I'm not sure its fair to say that's stupid. Especially under the Liberal regime (that was) it may have just been practical.
I can't find any excuse for the NDP and Liberal (fed)voters from the ranks of the 'educated' in NS.
Maybe they ARE stupid.
I think its more likely that they have created very nice little lives for themselves and are comfortable with what they have chosen to believe is true. (self-centered hypocricy masquerading as social conscience)
Posted by: lwestin | 2007-03-02 8:43:26 AM
It's amazing how people can confuse the issues. First of all UFO's are real. If you don't believe so, then you haven't done enough homework. Paul Hellyer did the world a favour by standing up and saying so on Sept 25/05. He should get the Nobel Prize for Peace for doing so. Second, Paul not only served in the Liberal and Conservative parties, he also started up his own party, the Canaian Action Party. How many people do you know who have started up their own political party? To do so you need intellect and courage. To those who are upset that he was given the job of unifying the Canadian forces, stop living in the past. We have a planet to save, and Paul is leading the way. For those of you who want to know the truth, the FASTWALKERS documentary premieres in Toronto on Wed Mar 7/07 at 9pm.
Posted by: Mike Bird | 2007-03-02 8:53:51 AM
Sorry I had 2 typos in my previous post. The political party that Paul Hellyer started was the Canadian Action Party, and the FASTWALKERS film starts at 7pm (not 9pm).
Posted by: Mike Bird | 2007-03-02 8:57:46 AM
Most people on the "lower end of the economic scale"don't vote at all. Virtually all University Students in the many centres of higher learning in the Region do not bother to vote. Voter turnout in the Atlantic region is always very low. Thats probably because most Maritimers are into a self-centered hypocrisy masquerading as social conscience. Which really means they are against same sex marriage and equal opportunity for Acadians, plus dislike of Chinese immigrants. Why do so many move to Alberta and Manitoba? MacLeod
Posted by: Jack Macleod | 2007-03-02 9:03:14 AM
Austrian Immigrant named Adolf Hitler started his "own political party" did'nt last long but created enormous damage and suffering. Canadian Action Party was more or less created by Hellyer to piss off the Liberal establishment of the period, who just laughed. Most of them are still around Toronto and
Montreal - doubt if they have changed their opinion of Hellyer and his Space Pals - MacLeod
Posted by: Jack Macleod | 2007-03-02 9:09:33 AM
Didn't you mean they are FOR same -sex marriage ? Was that supposed to be between Acadians and Chinese?
You keep sticking up for those Dal profs. I don't get it.
(Some people actually are born in Alberta and move east.)
Posted by: lwestin | 2007-03-02 9:36:00 AM
When did he STOP having high-profile jobs with the Liberals?
Posted by: pete e | 2007-03-02 4:20:54 PM
Hellyer served in PM Trudeau's First Cabinet as Minister of Transport, but resigned and joined the Progressive Conservative Party around the middle '80's - next thing much to great surprise he is seeking PC Leadership when the PC's dumped PM
Diefenbaker, but. Stanfield won the nod, and was
demolished by the mighty Trudeau Liberal Machine
-no one could have defeated Trudeau then.Hellyer was
persona non gratia in the Liberal Party and vanished
from view until he came up with the ill fated CAP
to this day Hellyer is detested by the old line Liberals, and I can see Citoyen Dion going the same way out of the Party as Hellyer. Harper got lucky when the Muslim Hordes elected Dion. MacLeod
Posted by: Jack MacLeod | 2007-03-03 4:34:45 AM
Jack: Navdeep Bains, the one who is demanding Harper apologize for a QUOTE he didn't get to utter, reportedly delivered some 250 delegates to Dion.
Harper struck a nerve because Libranos know what transpired and why.
So it follows, how are we to believe no 'favors' were called?
The whole thing stinks anyway. Hauling delegates from one ethnic community to a candidate has to be for special favor. Why else would they do it?
It's a sad mess we've come to this in Canada, a Nation divided into Ethnic communities grabbing
influence with those in power or those who seek power.
Posted by: Liz J | 2007-03-03 6:44:21 AM
You are right Liz - it is obvious today, when one hears and reads about Liberal contempt for and apprehension about the future of their Party "under"
Dion that Dion's days are numbered. It appears from here this morning that the Media have turned on the
little Professor -check out Bourque News Watch this am- Worst thing that can happen to a politician is in fact happening to Dion - he has quickly become a joke - we call him Pinocchio in all correspondence.
-a Professor at Waterloo compared Harper's and Dion's handwriting with devastating results for Dion - our point is we want long term Harper management. MacLeod
Posted by: Jack MacLeod | 2007-03-03 6:53:47 AM
Speaking of "handwriting" , it reminds me of those old Trudeau jokes. Maybe Dion should take his dog Kyoto for a walk in the snow.
Posted by: nomdenet | 2007-03-03 8:59:13 AM
"It's amazing how people can confuse the issues. First of all UFO's are real. If you don't believe so, then you haven't done enough homework. "
Does a Master's in Astrophysics count?
It's a long way to Proxima Centauri, my friend.
Posted by: h2o273kk9 | 2007-03-03 11:09:27 AM
Are these beings from outer limits green or a shade of gray? Just wondering in case we spot one stepping
out of a saucer. We'd have to act quickly, with our
extreme pollution they wouldn't last long.
Posted by: Liz J | 2007-03-03 12:10:42 PM
UFO's started to appear in the popular media when
there were a number of articles featured in the Adventure and Man's Magazines of the 'Fifties. At the same time Hollywood cashed in with films by producers like George Pal. The only unidentified flying objects that I'm aware of are commercial
and or military aircraft off course and operating without GPS. seeking shelter. ET ain't real, but made Speilberg who was fascinated by the Science
Fiction and Space media of the late '40's and early 'Fifties' Hellyer has no credibility left and his support for Citoyen Dion will ensure the hole that's being dug for the little Professor will be completed with due haste. MacLeod
Posted by: Jack MacLeod | 2007-03-03 12:32:40 PM
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