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Sunday, February 25, 2007
Today's bombings in Thailand remind us that this is not a struggle between Islamism and the West. It's a struggle between Islamism and everybody. Thailand, India, Russia, China--all these countries face terrorism from radical Muslims. This is evidence that it is not U.S. foreign policy or Western imperialism that is at the root of Islamism. Certainly, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and Guantanamo Bay help deliver recruits to the Islamist cause. But Islamism as an ideology goes far beyond grievances with George W. Bush.
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Isamism clearly lives on fear and ignorance. To defeat it, one must denounce the United Nations, avoid strict adherence to the code of human rights, and get really ugly. Everyone must be against islamism to such an extent that the current troubles are a microcosm of what's to come.
Posted by: dewp | 2007-02-25 9:56:10 PM
Good post and how true. I have argued with many acquaintances make this same point. Islam is a global movement and if we don't get with the program, global warming will be the least of our worries.
It's a shame that these climate change believers/fanatics/zombies are diffusing the limited attention span of the average western citizen. The rest of the world has no meaningful dog in the fight so if they have even heard of Gore/Suzuki and followers, they certainly don't care about the bleating coming from the these lire-Jet Liars.
I learned that to deal with challenges in life, one must prioritize one's problems and deal with them accordingly ... it's not different from paying of the debt that has the highest carrying charges first .. then on to the next. Simple really.
Right now the threat from Islam is far more immediate and potentially devastating to all societies of the world than a a degree or two of global warming.
But then having a great new reason to go shopping for a $30,000 piss cutter Prius that isn't any better or gentler than a plain old Honda Civic for nearly half the price, and mainly just to been seen to care ... Oh ya maybe a couple of new thermal windows will confirm the commitment
You can bet there will be a mini van or SUV remaining in the garage for real transport needs .. say on the weekends to go the cottage or drop the power boat into the water ... etc.
Now contrast that with the idea that we may have to support the warring and killing of say ... about 100 thousand terrorists and their supporters to allow us to carry on in a free world is just too inconvenient a thought.
When you look at it that way ... it is Easy Being Green ... (sorry Kermit)
Posted by: John | 2007-02-25 11:03:11 PM
Check what this hottie sais Bout Islam.
Posted by: Shawn | 2007-02-25 11:09:36 PM
Yes John how true. One cannot stress enough the fact that should the Islamists win, no one will have to worry about climate change, environment, global warming or whatever you choose.
This is not simply a different religion or faith. It is not about Islam versus Judaism or Christianity. It is a deadly ideology with an imperialistic goal to subdue the world. Europe has already lost the battle for all intents and purchases and Canada is not that far behind with so many of them living here and using our political correct laws and system against us. Even the US is in danger, although not near as far along the path of suicide. Every time we give into their demands, such as appeasement over the cartoons, or as in the US allowing Muslim taxi drivers serving an airport to refuse clients carrying alcohol, they understand they are one step closer to winning the war. The whole idea that host countries must adapt to their demands instead of the opposite is one of their several strategies.
Posted by: Alain | 2007-02-25 11:49:19 PM
Is Western Civilization at war with Radical Islam or
is it in denial?
We are fighting to keep laws to protect ourselves
from terrorist attacks, which all spring from one
source, Radical Islam.
Posted by: Liz J | 2007-02-26 6:39:07 AM
Hypocrisy is one of their most potent weapon. They are worst than communism was with lies and propaganda.
There is a growing internet network to start a comprehensive fight.
Posted by: Rémi Houle | 2007-02-26 7:14:05 AM
From Sunday's liturgy:
We pray to our God, who does not demand the death of sinners, but rather seeks their redemption.
On the other hand, the satanic jihadists DO demand the death of sinners ... and they reserve the right to define the sin, the starting point of which is typically an offence or perceived offence.
Posted by: Set you free | 2007-02-26 7:32:35 AM
If it isn't an East/West conflict then where did the Jihadis get all of those AK-47s, Draganov and Mosin Nagant sniper rifles, RPG-7s etc.?
They don't make these weapons themselves.
The term Islamism is absurd.
The threatening ideology is Mohammedism, known generally as Islam.
The Communists are banking on Islam(environmentalism too) weakening the West and making us vulnerable to revolution or outside conquest.
Posted by: Speller | 2007-02-26 9:05:05 AM
You all miss the greater picture. The reason for Muslim violence in Thailand is because of Thailand's years-long irrational support for Israel. It is motivated by Muslim sympathy for the plight of the Palestinians. And don't forget about the millions of dollars of armaments shipped by the Thais to the Israeli Defense Forces since 1948.
If only Israel would make peace and withdraw from Arab lands - or disappear completely from the Middle East - then and only then will the Muslims of Thailand live in peace with their Bhuddist neighbours.
What's that you say? Thailand has never supported or armed Israel? Well. . . never mind.
Posted by: obc | 2007-02-26 9:18:00 AM
No, Mohammedanism, as Speller rightfully calls the phenomenon as it has been known through history has one disturbing element.
Apparently, the philosophy not only allows but encourages the death of sinners. They define the sin (such as western decadence) and that justifies killing.
Not sure how many of the Ten Commandments that breaks, but Islam certainly does not have the same emphasis on self-improvement through introspection as does Buddhism and pure Christianity (as opposed to the bastardized version practised in the western world).
Posted by: Set you free | 2007-02-26 9:24:23 AM
I agree that there is more than one enemy of freedom, but none as vicous as the muslims have shown to be.
Even if they are the attack dogs that others are rallying behind working against the West in more insidious way that makes it no less important to beat them.
The west can always beat the communists by simply making sure our band accounts are a lot bigger then theirs. That is what happened to end the cold war. The Soviet Union simply went broke trying to compete with the west. If our NDP were ever elected to power, we would quickly go broke too.
However, I believe our biggest enemy is the half of the western world that are embarrassed by our successes and guilt ridden that much of the rest of the world is still in the grip of poverty, despotism and backwardness. Even though those places are evolved humanoid with as much potential as we have.
Making bad choices is a sad thing. They have done that. We are now in the process of doing that.
Posted by: John | 2007-02-26 9:30:48 AM
Set You Free:
Time to take a refresher course on "Sarcasm". CHEERS!
Posted by: obc | 2007-02-26 9:34:55 AM
There was some media coverage, over the weekend, about he increasing numbers of people who have been converting to islam, in Germany.
I wonder what the conversion rate is in areas surrounding the blasts, around the world, including Thailand?
Seems as though that is one of the effects of terrorism.
Then again, it probably causes an increase in religiosity in general.
The biggest issue are those who absolutely know nothing in the first place, and weak in general.
Posted by: Lady | 2007-02-26 9:44:33 AM
That's how far we have gone over the edge.
Sarcasm is now picked up in the realm of possibility.
At this time in our history, and in our politically correct climate it is quite acceptable to lay blame with Christians and Jews.
So you see, the Thailand terrorist attack could very well be believably blamed on the Jooooooos,
no convoluted logic is too far out.
It's down to if we in Western democracies give up our way of life and embrace Islam and if the Jews
give up their State of Israel and disappear into
oblivion, presto! Peace in our time!
Posted by: Liz J | 2007-02-26 11:21:35 AM
Islaomfacist-Muslims attack girls schools because they want to pass the message that the girls should not be educated. They are repugnant imbeciles who live to have women forged as cattle, breeders if you will, so they can amass their version of islam, and force it down the throats of the world, with force.
It is a known fact that when women are not educated, they tend to breed more.
Look at Bounty BC.
Posted by: Lady | 2007-02-26 12:08:07 PM
Thank you Liz for laying it out in simple terms to obc. However such people usually have their own agenda and will not be swayed by facts.
I was unaware that Thailand had been such a strong supporter of Israel, but according to obc that had to be the reason. I wonder what the reason was for bombing and murdering innocent Hindus in India or the Muslim riots and destruction in France, Spain, etc., countries that promote virulent anti-Israel policy.
We need to wake up before it is too late, but I wonder if our nanny-state junkies are able to. All such immigration from such groups (unwilling and unable to assimilate) needs to cease immediately and we need to put an end to the foreign funding and provision of clerics/teachers for mosques, madrassas, etc. who spread this ideology throughout the country. The mosques should all be monitored and anyone found preaching and promoting jihad needs to be deported. The same applies to Islamic schools for both text books and teachers. Authorities must stop pandering to the various Muslim associations in the name of sensitivity. If anything these groups need sensitivity training to Western civilisation. As for the members and leaders of such associations, any found guilty of preaching and promoting terrorism and terrorists should be deported.
The bottom line is that unless this radical form of Islam is stomped out within our borders, Muslims seeking to live a normal law-abiding life in Canada and who seek to reform their religion do not stand a chance.
Posted by: Alain | 2007-02-26 12:13:40 PM
At the risk of sounding repetitive:
Time to take a refresher course on "Sarcasm". CHEERS!
Posted by: obc | 2007-02-26 12:21:21 PM
"That is what happened to end the cold war. The Soviet Union simply went broke trying to compete with the west."
Posted by: John | 26-Feb-07 9:30:48 AM
The Cold War never ended. We just stopped fighting our side of it and declared victory when there was no victory.
The Soviet Union always was broke.
The enemy in the Cold War wasn't the Soviet Union, it was and IS Communism.
Vladimir Putin was a KGB Major. He is now President of Russia.
Putin's father was a cook for Lenin and Stalin.
As poisoning political enemies is such a Russian tradition it borders on being the national sport, Putin's father, being Lenin and Stalin's cook, is a solid endorsement of Putin's Bolshevik pedigree.
Communism was conquered when?
The problem we have in the West is that the Communists don't know they are conquered and have lost the Cold War.
Because they aren't and they haven't.
The Cold War isn't over.
The Communists have, since the advent of the Atomic Bomb, been fighting the West through proxies.
All through the 20th Century they used ComIntern and ComInform cadres raised in the target countries meant for conquest, managed by agents from Communist Embassies, and financed by pro-Communist Capitalists in the West.
Do the Communist's need to raise cadres in the target countries anymore?
Yes, but their present reliance is on Muslim immigrants who all come from non-free societies and have an extremely high birthrate.
These people are subsidized by western welfare and protected by multiculturalism.
They will not assimilate and fighting Jihad is part and parcel of their ideology.
The Communist cadres were not the only investment the Communists made to weaken the West. They also trained and financed Muslim terrorists throughout the decades of the 50s (Malaysia), 60s ('Palestine'), 70s (Iran), 80s (Libya), and still are.
Communists are smart enough not to put all their eggs in one basket.
Why were England, the Common Wealth, the U.S. unarmed and unready to fight WWII?
Because of the Communist lead and raised 'Peace and Disarmament Movements' that's why.
Do we have 'Peace and Disarmament Movements' today?
YES and they are lead and organized by Communists.
Posted by: Speller | 2007-02-26 1:39:16 PM
Here's the latest from members of Thailand's "Religion of Peace":
Posted by: obc | 2007-02-26 2:26:16 PM
www.thereligionofpeace.com always has interesting acticles.
Posted by: Set you free | 2007-02-26 2:39:22 PM
There can be no excuse for killing people for being on vacation in countries who rely on tourism.
Looks like maybe we can add Thailand to Mexico on places to stay away from pending further investigation and stay away after investigation!
It's getting serious here, "obc", right?
Posted by: Liz J | 2007-02-26 2:47:10 PM
Terrorism is a vehicle that is not only being used to attack objects of hatred, but are also being used to fan the flames of conversion.
What happens whenever there is a terrorist attack?
People ask the local Mosque, what is up, and get a free education in islam. This leads a certain number of individuals converting. At the core of most of these conversion type religions, is this quest. So, no matter how damning it is on those who are related to the terrorists, the end effect is they get more converts. This tells them they must be doing their vision right and the cycle continues.
And also, if you look at the appeasement types of religions, they are also not out there committing acts that lead more to conversion.
Posted by: Lady | 2007-02-26 2:47:55 PM
Set You Free,
It suddenly occurred to me. Marc is one who fits the metrosexual term you mentioned a while back?
Posted by: Lady | 2007-02-26 2:48:56 PM
Right you are Lady. Terrorism is only of several tools to conquer the non Islamic world, which is why the state the war on terrorism is totally ridiculous. Through terrorism they either get more conversions or a submissive people, both out of fear, and it works.
Posted by: Alain | 2007-02-26 2:56:08 PM
No, I think that was snowrunner.
Posted by: Set you free | 2007-02-26 2:58:06 PM
obc: Good one...I got the sarcasm.
Posted by: Markalta | 2007-02-26 4:11:55 PM
There is a report out saying there are more Blacks in the US converting to Islam.
Not hard to figure that one out.
Like so many other cults, they prey on the disadvantaged and the vulnerable.
We need a few lessons in the art of smartening up.
Posted by: Liz J | 2007-02-26 4:41:27 PM
Liz, I am not sure to what that conversions rate refers to all Blacks, but it certainly applies to a large number of those in prison. South of the border the same as in Canada, the government sponsors/allows these radical clerics (usually funded by the Saudis) into the prisons - and in some cases the military. Their message is well received by cons, since it does not require them to repent or change their ways while giving them an outlet for their rage.
We have become totally stupid, since all of us know that no non Muslim chaplain would have access to inmates in a Muslim prison with free reign to seek converts, etc.
Posted by: Alain | 2007-02-26 5:10:42 PM
Britain's Daily Express publishes a piece titled:
MUSLIMS: 'BAN' UN-ISLAMIC SCHOOLS
By Gabriel Milland
DEMANDS for a ban on “un-Islamic” activities in schools will be set out by the Muslim Council of Britain today. Targets include playground games, swimming lessons, school plays, parents’ evenings and even vaccinations.....http://www.express.co.uk/news_detail.html?sku=1264
Some claim that the Daily Express is an unreliable “tabloid,” and that the actual document released by the Muslim Council of Britain is much more “moderate.
But here's the actual .pdf file from the Muslim Council of Britain. It appears the islamization of Britain continues apace.
Posted by: Randy | 2007-02-26 5:26:55 PM
The war on terror is more about going after state terror. Although I know it foments on both sides, there is the other side. And, we are going to get there only if we push through. If we do not we will delay the inevitable for another few decades. Well before USA declared war against terror, terrorists were out there doing their dirty, and committing attrocious acts, violations against humanity. If we do nothing, we will appease.
Someone ought to tell those non-islamic ethnic groups, that no matter how much they learn they will never be considered to be true Muslims. I say this because of Sudan. Christians and animists get murdered, but some of the Muslim blacks are permitted to go to darfur, and survive, after who knows what hell they manage to go through. The world might care, but they are too busy ignoring the genocide of the black people, to get around to doing anything about it. And the very nations who are doing the ethnic cleansing and genocide are effecting the very security bodies who would do anything about it. Every few days my stomac gets into a twist about it. I know I am not doing enough, and so have determined that I will do more to try to get more people active to help these people escape these murderers.
Set You Free,
Yes, but the term fits.
Posted by: Lady | 2007-02-26 5:59:32 PM
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