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Monday, February 26, 2007

Independent Lieberman

Joe Lieberman is a good man and I like him because he is a decent political opponent and is often good on foreign policy and about how America should conduct itself in this dangerous world. I draw your attention to what he has written on the Wall Street Journal today:

I do believe he must join the GOP in the US Senate and stop pretending to be a Democrat. He ain't a leftie in most cases, especially foreign policy. Plus what he says can be true in case of Canada. Just put Afghanistan instead of Iraq and Canada instead of America in the text and then it will apply to Canadians that are involved in Afghanistan.

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Posted by Winston on February 26, 2007 in International Affairs | Permalink

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I couldn't agree more. If only there were more Democrats like Joe, the US could focus on winning in Iraq rather than just getting out of it.

Posted by: J. Strong | 2007-02-26 11:34:35 AM

He is officially not a Democrat. He is an Independent senator from CT.

Posted by: Winston | 2007-02-26 11:37:30 AM

Winston,

Lieberman was a Democrat for nearly forty years before the primary voters in Connecticut tossed him overboard. It is not easy for him to abandon that kind of history, and on most domestic issues, he is very much a Dem. Also, keep in mind the "whip" is a lot weaker down here than up there or in the UK.

FWIW, he has talked about switching caucuses should the Democrats mess with the war too much.

Posted by: D.J. McGuire | 2007-02-26 12:48:24 PM

Where I’m from we were taught that you shouldn’t start a fight you don’t have to but once you do you better finish it. Unless there are cops around and you don’t want to get done for assault. Say the other guy called all cops a bunch of jerks. Even better is to pretend you don’t want to fight and then when the guy has turned away you sucker-punch him in the back of the neck. But you cannot do that in this case because the el Qeada guys are never all in the same room (the people who know how coca-cola is made are like this to). You could try but I predict it would be too hard to get all the el Qeada-lovers like Buzz Hargrove in the same room and then trick them into looking the other way. But if you could I’d like to ask permission to punch them in the back of the neck. I’d punch them hard. Hard enough they fall over. I’ve done it before too. Except for Buzz. I wouldn’t punch him. I’d lecture him on economics. That’s why I like this quote from Joe Lieberman. (below). You have to stick with your original plans no matter what. Even if you’re not going to get to punch someone in the neck immediately and have to wait, even if sticking to your plans is impossible or makes you look dumb or hurts your goals. If you believe in freedom you cannot go and start believing in chocolate or stock car racing half way through just because freedom has stopped being cool and none of the small-nosed girls in minis-skirts will have lunch with you anymore, or you’re getting attacked and you don’t remember why, you just have to stay believing in freedom and not stop with your original freedom-generating plans. That’s what freedom is like.

The quote:

“Will we allow our actions to be driven by the changing conditions on the ground in Iraq--or by the unchanging political and ideological positions long ago staked out in Washington? … What ultimately matters more to us: the real fight over there, or the political fight over here?”

Anyone disagreeing with Senator Joe Lieberman clearly wants the Muslims to win the Clash of Civilizations 2. Only a hopeless partisan would criticize the war plan. Did the Republicans criticize Clinton? Did the Conservatives criticize how the Liberals fought the war? Did Winston Churchill meddle with the military’s plans? Did Parliament criticize our soldiers who were dropping bombs on Nazi cities? Sometimes, yes. But only when they had to. And maybe they were right. But now the left won’t do what the right wants them to. It’s stupid. The troops are fighting the very same Muslims who want to kill us while the Democrats (the Liberals here) just sit around in their gentlemen’s clubs pontificating like they’re a bunch of super-smart intellectuals. The funny thing is EVERYBODY knows they’re not. Somebody should tell Dion he’s not so smart. Harper is the smart one. And Baird to. Stockwell Day: not so much. Ignatieff is just a prick because he’s written books and thinks he’s so smart. Not about terrorism he hasn’t. Not all of them. He’s a minus six to a guy like Flarety who knows everything about everybody. What the Justin Trudeau left are doing is criticising. EVERYBODY also knows something else: if you don’t have anything nice to say you shouldn’t say anything at all. Especially when it’s the military you are saying it about. Or people who don’t want to be killed by Muslims who hate our TV shows!!! Like desperate housewives. It’s because the left controls our media bias that it didn’t win an Oscar. It’s because it’s a CONSERVATIVE SHOW!!!!

Why are they doing this? Because after they finish eating their foreign-cheese canapés they want the Muslims to win. THEY WANT THE WEST TO LOSE!!!! This is because they hate the United States, Silvo Berlusconi, the new Pope but not the old one who they sort-of liked because he was a secret anarcho-sydicationalist (my family has had proof of this for generations but it melted down into a single gold ingot in a house fire thirty-years ago). They also hate the Albertan oil sands and even their own mothers. They want their daughters to be treated like cattle. Make no mistake, deep down in their collective Maoist subconscious the people who practice Liberal-left politics want women to be used for breeding. That’s why Nancy Pelosi wants the Muslims to win. So she can be used for breeding. It’s so obvious!!!!!

If the left would just stop interfering and let the military rock out this would all be over.

Posted by: Hey you guys!!! | 2007-02-26 1:32:16 PM

D.J

I agree 100% but I like his stance in foreign policy and the fact that he is a decent opposition and doesn't make himself look bad. He might be a Dem but he is still a decent American who cares about his country and the cause of freedom around the world. Thats what distinguishes him from the pathetic leftists

Posted by: Winston | 2007-02-26 2:33:39 PM

Winston,

My point was not to disparage the guy; rather it was to note that the odds of him switching parties is slim, unless the Dems go off the deep end. Oh wait, maybe it's not so slim at all.

Posted by: D.J. McGuire | 2007-02-27 4:38:42 AM

And I think he is getting closer to that point at Dems go off the deep end. I really hope he joins the GOP

Posted by: Winston | 2007-02-27 7:47:46 AM

Hey You guys,

So, you think these people, the ones who make decisions like cutting off their noses to spite their faces, are self-loathers?

Posted by: Lady | 2007-02-27 8:11:52 AM

Senator Lieberman Independent Democrat is well known here in New Brunswick and Nova Scotia where most of the old original families have close links with the
New England States. The Liebermans are Orthodox Jews
and Senator Leiberman comes from an area of the US with a long tradition in support of the Democratic Party, he is also a Yale Graduate (as is Rhodes Scholar President William Jefferson Clinton) whose
wife may very well be the next President of the United States. I remenber years ago when there were articles in the Boston papers about New England College Students who journeyed to Mississippi to register potential Black Voters
Joe Leiberman was one of them. There is a tendency
in Western Canada in particular to define the Liberal Party of Canada as "left wing" -it ain't never has been, neither is the US Democratic Party
of the US - both Parties share one objective: "winning elections" My personal opinion is that Ex Mayor Rudi the Enforcer will win the US Presidential Election. Senator Lieberman forty years a Democrat, a member of the top level steering committee of the Party will not and has no need to be a Republican.We particularly admire Lieberman for his unwavering support for the State
of Israel, - as the Boston Globe says: he's a good man" MacLeod

Posted by: Jack MacLeod | 2007-02-27 10:06:07 AM

Certainly Mr. Lieberman has his qualities but his voting record on most issues has been on the left. While I have seen several claims of him being an Orthodox Jew, his voting record says different. That being said he has not been part of the extreme Left which is why he was forced out of the Democrat Party.

One can no longer claim that the Dems are not leftist unless it is to recognise they belong to the extreme Left.

Posted by: Alain | 2007-02-27 6:57:20 PM

I sincerely hope they find somebody better than Rudi for GOP. He's like the conser. version of Bill Clinton. Repulsive. Can't they do better?

Posted by: lwestin | 2007-02-27 8:14:21 PM


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