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Saturday, January 27, 2007

Robert Pickton

Posted by Rick Hiebert on January 27, 2007 | Permalink


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We are supposed to read the papers and listen to testimony coming from this hundred-million dollar trial, and we are supposed to say tsk tks, ain't it a pity. Meanwhile the money that is spent in trying this asshole could be saved by one bullet, and could have been spent much better in helping those poor dumb skanks get out of the hooker business, even if just to get them on welfare and taught to do something to earn a living at. But no. The dope and prostitution business is very vibrant for those that make money in it [and so is the justice system a great money generator], and then when some sick person offs these women [many of whom are native in origin, which involves a whole different set of causal principles], and buries their remains in pig shit, the machine kicks in and your money goes into that black hole, to do all of the wrong things.

Posted by: DCM | 2007-01-27 12:47:22 PM

Very good observation.

The system is driving itself. See Kafka.

Posted by: Rémi Houle | 2007-01-27 1:40:52 PM

Given the abuses inherent in the system, the lies and inaccuracy from the media, the corruption and lack of accountability by police and politicians in Canada, giving them the power to solve things with a single bullet is giving these people more power than trust warrants.

Prostitutes, by and large, like their lifestyle and the money it brings them. In countries where prostitution is legal and regulated to the max, there is still prostitution and even illegal unregulated street walkers.

As for the drugs, well, the cost of them is entirely out of proportion to their actual intrinsic value and is a function of prohibition.

Pickton, on the other hand, threw massive parties at his pig farm, partially funded by gaining tax free status, and people, some of whom weren't prostitutes, were known to disappear at them.

"The brothers also ran a supposed charity, the Piggy Palace Good Times Society, registered with the Canadian government in 1996 as a non-profit society intended to "organize, co-ordinate, manage and operate special events, functions, dances, shows and exhibitions on behalf of service organizations, sports organizations and other worthy groups." According to Hiscox, the "special events" convened at Piggy Palace--a converted building at the hog farm--were drunken raves that featured "entertainment" by an ever-changing cast of Downtown Eastside prostitutes."
"Soon after Piggy Palace opened, the Pickton brothers and their sister, Linda Louise Wright, found themselves in court again, sued Port Coquitlam officials for allegedly violating city zoning ordinances. According to the complaint, their property was zoned for agricultural use, but they had "altered a large farm building on the land for the purpose of holding dances, concerts and other recreations" that sometimes drew as many as 1,800 persons. Following a New Year's Eve party on December 31, 1998, the Picktons were slapped with an injunction banning future parties, the court order noting that police were henceforth "authorized to arrest and remove any person" attending public events at the farm."

Posted by: Speller | 2007-01-27 2:42:55 PM

When they are done with this'waste of skin',they then need to address the negligence of the VPD.

Vancouver's finest refused to take seriously the cases of these dozens of missing women for countless years. They repeatedly denied queries that any serial killer/s could be responsible before finally conceding to form a task force.

Posted by: Canadian Observer | 2007-01-27 2:52:56 PM

Observer: sort of sounds like that film "Citizen X"

Posted by: Zebulon Pike | 2007-01-27 3:46:24 PM

Is Pickton a low-life escapee from Ontario? Just askin'.

Posted by: h2o273kk9 | 2007-01-27 3:50:11 PM

I'm not sure exactly where Pickton was born. I assume it was BC.

But it makes no difference. Serial killers know few set parameters and geography isn't one of them. It's a rather unique phenomenon.

The real mass murderers in Toronto are David Miller and Toronto City Council, who do nothing to stop the daily death on their streets.

Posted by: Zebulon Pike | 2007-01-27 4:31:11 PM

Everyone desires a trial, no matter the evidence. If only to see where they screw ups happened. Remember you may be in the docket some day justly or not. It happens because where only human. People make mistakes both in life plus any system is not infallible. Never discount the vindictive factor of folks as well to ruin others for gain or maliciousness..

That its 100,000,000 for this maggot is unreal. It seems pretty cut & dried. If ( Libel laws you know) found guilty. He should be dropped from a plane with no parachute. This became a circus over a monster. Now we pay for the spectacle.

The police have a disturbing habit of discounting missing persons or hookers that have been killed by serial killers. As in Edmonton for years.

Frankly this horrifying story is a sad tail of what has happened to a Justice system taken over by Utopian fantasists. Political cowardice by people more enamored of addicting the poor forever. Than giving a helping hand to victims or enforcing crime in general.

The police just follow their orders from the civic Autocracy & Mayors priorities with there tone. Even the Attorney General is constrained by political considerations or dogma.

This is why something like this goes on festering while lives are lost.

How long the public will stand for this laxness. If not justification for every criminal act or situation will not be long is my guess.

Posted by: Revnant Dream | 2007-01-27 5:04:10 PM

I think a lot of $100,000,000 went to the massive effort to recover body parts of the victims, identify the victims with as much certainty as possible, and investigate the extent to which Robert Pickton's relatives and associates were involved in the killings and other illegal activities that took place.
(body disposal, kidnapping, unlawful confinement, assault, rape, desecration of bodies, etc.)

Posted by: Speller | 2007-01-28 10:48:10 AM

I am still surprised that anyone would still eat pork after reading about this.

Posted by: Lady | 2007-01-29 11:46:36 AM

My heart goes out to the families of this sick individual.

I agree about the bureaucracy and waste of money. I think we have stepped into more red tape. Makes the Canadian flag make more sense- from red tape to red tape. There is a mastery to creating a system that is fair, just, and efficient. I am fustrated daily by the methods of our governments. The justice system is one of the worst.

The action of killing hookers and street workers is not in anyway a justification of his actions. We, as this society, have failed our women miserably. We do not have to like what they do- the problem would never go away. Action speaks louder then words. I spent months in Montreal helping kids on the street. A went to a few funerals- but I also went to a couple graduations (recovery and educational).

I live today in a northern arctic community that is mostly government- therefore we are politically racist. We are so PC that no communication or cooperation is solid to build our society as one people. You are either White, Native, or other. Albeit the issue of street working and crime might be larger in one group than an other- I pray for the day that we work as one to solve this problem. Some native groups have shown great energy to change this pattern of victim and really develop a direction of growth.

God bless the victim's families with less Red Tape and quick closure.

Posted by: Robert | 2007-01-29 6:11:01 PM

Aaah the Blame Game! If parents took more accountability for their station as parents and relied less on society/government not just to foot the bill on recovering their adult/children from drugs and prostitution, but to clean up after their intellectualy or emotionally-deficited decisions (to go to the streets, to take drugs, to drop out of school, to go to Pig Farm parties....) you may have less hookers and drugs, and thugs, you'd have less need for media, court and police. So, in a way I have less sympathy for the family members than the avg. person (Where were you the minute you heard your child became a prostitute? "Oh that's niiiiice"). This is NOT to say that Pickton was justified. But to blame the police for not being able to determine those poor girls' demise quickly when the girls themselves purposely "disappeared" from within the confines of societal rules, and accountability and thus many of its benefits, so as to avoid the very persons (cops) their families then wanted to 'find' them is a bit of a hypocritical demand.On the otherhand, the police force needs more/better training. Maybe a sojourn in NYPD or the like. As for Pickton, if convicted, he should go to a zoo, and be fed pig scraps, until Canada finally gets capital punishment on the books, Iraq style (not US style - takes too long and even more TP's $$s)

Posted by: Suzyy | 2007-03-27 3:21:00 PM

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