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Thursday, January 18, 2007
Meanwhile, in Great Britain
And speaking of the utter failture of relativistic multiculturalism (see my earlier posting, below), I've just come across an Observer story of a few weeks ago, detailing a sad but all too predictable development within radical Islam in Britain. It reads, in part: "Secret video footage reveals Muslim preachers exhorting followers to prepare for jihad, to hit girls for not wearing the hijab, and to create a 'state within a state'." Read the whole story here.
That "secret video footage" was up on YouTube, but it appears to have been taken down now.
Posted by Terry O'Neill on January 18, 2007 in Current Affairs | Permalink
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You can watch it here.http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2668560761490749816
Posted by: Alan | 2007-01-18 4:18:55 PM
If even the stupid, bigoted rich people of Ontario can figure out that Radical Islam is threat (with the Sharia law idea couple of years ago), then it should be obvious to anyone.
Posted by: Zebulon Pike | 2007-01-18 6:01:06 PM
The sheer notion of a state within a state, that has no application to the laws of the over-seeing state, but the wealth, is perhaps one of their dreams.
I wonder how long it will be before we have a France situation in Montreal that spreads to the rest of Canada.
Ya, like they are going to be more sympathetic to hiring people who will not learn the major language, now?
Posted by: Lady | 2007-01-18 6:05:17 PM
The way some of these radical muslims speak, it is as if they're going to take over and we non-Muslims will be dhimmis inside their country.
Time to crack down on them. Hard.
Posted by: Zebulon Pike | 2007-01-18 6:13:09 PM
The UK should act immediately to remove these hatemongers from the country before it is too late. Canada should do likewise.
Posted by: Mike H. | 2007-01-18 9:12:16 PM
It must be a full moon. You alway get the wackjobs out....
So what are you guys saying here? That we ought to lock up all Muslims in consentration camps or something?
State how, not just what if your going to go all out racist.
Posted by: Stones | 2007-01-18 9:14:58 PM
Stones:
Islam is the problem, as articulated by a former Palestinian Muslim terrorist who converted to Christianity. At least, that's what a person who committed his first murder at 14 years of age confessed to.
Who are we to argue?
Posted by: Set you free | 2007-01-18 9:20:35 PM
They are calling for women to be beaten, gay men to be "thrown off mountains", for "all non muslims to be killed" and for"a state within a state before Muslims takeover". Treason pure and simple! Deport them.
PS. Have you watched the entire program?
Posted by: Mike H. | 2007-01-18 9:21:29 PM
Lady,
Yesterday, we had a television event closing the racism inquiry I told you about. There was one Imam, one Raby from the hacidim comunity and the Cardinal Turcotte on one panel. On the other table you had Mario Dumont, Québec Liberal VP and one from the Bloc. Everybody have learned something from the others during this exercise but at the end (and in the polls), everybody were agreeing that it was enought with "religious acommodations". The polititians present on site made very clear that the message have been eard and understood.
At least, we've made a point out of this media circus that changes have to be made in the next months to secure la poutine Québécoise.
Our provincial immigration laws are made to accept anybody who's interest in participating to the Quebec culture inna constructive way. You know dam well that the "pure laine" majority will never let others transforme radicaly our Culture and traditions. The vast majority of immigrants understood what the specificity of Quebec is about and had join us to continue this great épopé.
We have learned from the errors made in France and we are now more an exemple to the world than a failure on this issue.
There's no getthos in my province. this should be a great example that we're in advance on others considering the number of immigrants.
Having a strong national identity, like we have in Quebec, hold you from having numerous separate groupes.
And as for your province Lady, what have been done to ensure the continuation of what you love and care about in Canada ?
Posted by: Marc | 2007-01-18 10:13:07 PM
In actual fact non French Speaking Immigrants detest Quebec, and the imposition of the notorious Language Laws. We work in the international sector in recent years we advocated to highly skilled Czech, Polish and Israeli technology and aerospace workers that they seek immigration first to BC, Alberta and Nova Scotia. United Kingdom Immigrants have wtitten off Quebec some time ago. The Quebec Educational System is biased and bigoted in their interpretation of Quebec Langauge Law which I suspect is Unconstitutional. In the Halifax NS I gew up in many decades ago, the Irish/Scots, Jews, Lebanese and Syrians, plus the British blended into a common equal Community. The Community however did not then accept Black Nova Scotians as Equal. The Liberal Party was closed to them for many years. MacLeod
Posted by: Jack MacLeod | 2007-01-19 4:44:48 AM
No doubt Quebec's language "law" is unconstitutional, that is if our Constitution applies to Quebec. They cherry pick what they want from our laws, much like the Native Indians and we let them away with it.
Posted by: Liz J | 2007-01-19 5:42:03 AM
Deportation is possible for those on visa as for the others with citizenship...they can be committed by bench order to state assylums for the criminally insane.
Posted by: Wlyonmackenzie | 2007-01-19 6:56:56 AM
BTW Comparing the emergence of fanatical isolationist nation of Islam Jihad in Britain to the Quebec situation may seem like a humorous parody but it is far from the same.
Quebec has a core of famatical racist Francophones who agitate their government for Franco-centric legilating...but it takes more than a language to congeal a nation. The Islamic Jihadists are not held in a fanatical nationhood of islam by language but by religious belief systems mixed with islamic nationalist warrior fanaticism....If anything it is comparable to the radical first nations warrior society who define everything in terms of native and non native and are on a fanatical quest to reclame traditional homeland.
Similarly the Islamist believes that Islam is a nation defined by believers and infidels and this once great nation almost swept europe in a holy cleansing jihad to conquor the infidels of the holy Roman empire and spread Islam. It is the forced spread of Islam in infidel nations that is at the core of Islamist belief syatems.... It is these belief systems which puts them ( Nation of Islam Jihadis) at odds with the western culture/law/state/nation ( founded in Jideo-Christian ethos) that hosts their immigration.
Frankly I am at a loss to understand why anyone so fanatiacally opposed to the laws and philosophy of a host nation would ever want to immigrate there in the first place....unless there is some Global directive in Fanatical Islam to invade and conquor host nations...that is, they are being indoctrinated by funamentalist Imams to carry over the ancient nation of Islam Jihad to conquor infidels/Christiandom...as they started out to do in 700-732AD....that perhaps the Islamic nation fanatic dogma spewed from the Jihadi murderers in Spain, Denamark and elsewhere is a revival of the Jihadist Islamic nation of pre-crusade European expansionism....that we must understand the difference between "muslims" (who are spiritual islamists) and Islam (the jihadi nation driven by theocratic law and bigoted tribalism)....naww...even thinking about this openly will get you branded a "racist"...better keep such thought and discussion in the closet.
Maybe France or Denmark can answer these questions better than politically inhibited Canadians.
http://www.historyofjihad.org/globaljihad.html
Posted by: Wlyonmackenzie | 2007-01-19 7:45:55 AM
It was interesting to me when a friend originally from England spent a month or so in the UK over Christmas. He reports that the BBC TV Movie of Choice by most Britons during the period was "El Cid" which featured Charlton Heston and the story of Spain's great hero who defeated the Muslim Hordes
- I agree with him that the "ordinary Englishmen"
have had enough of fanatical Islam and are moving with strength and haste to force a Political solution
which can come only from a Conservative Government
-the notorious one eyed Imman who challenged UK Law in Court was assessed one million pounds in Court Costs, which will put a dent in his suicide bomber trust fund. MacLeod
Posted by: Jack MacLeod | 2007-01-19 8:24:02 AM
Marc makes a point that the ROC should consider about “Having a strong national identity, like we have in Quebec, hold you from having numerous separate groups.”
Setting aside the excessiveness of Quebec’s language laws and it’s excessive socialism that I’m tired of funding etc; I do agree with Marc that we should make it clear what we as a nation think immigrants should assimilate to. Quebec does a better job of that than the ROC.
Multiculturalism is de facto saying let’s be everything and it’s not necessary to be Canadian.
That’s a recipe for going down the path of what WLM asks in his in comments about France and Denmark.
My in-laws are Danish, mostly schoolteachers, mostly left of center. They’ve humoured me over the last few years with what they view as my neocon 9/11 rants. But they’ve have had a Damascus experience, since the Danish Cartoon fiasco.
They now admit that they have a really big problem with ghettoized Islamofascism. My lefty brother-in-law recently shocked me with the statement “the only thing they understand better than the Koran is the welfare act”.
Where’s it going in Denmark? I think acceptance of the fact that they have a problem is encouraging, but lately they sound more like Mark Steyn on their demographics and I’m more optimistic then they are that they’ll turn it around.
Posted by: nomdenet | 2007-01-19 8:32:18 AM
nomdenet:
Little by little, the blind will eventually open their eyes to the true nature of Islamic jihad.
As the former terrorist told Charles Adler yesterday, there are plenty of ‘nice' Muslims, but the troubles start even within that community with the embracement of Islamic principles.
He said he was taught as a child that all other human beings outside his group were inferior and that killing was allowed to ensure the survival of the superior way.
His first murder, at 14 years old, was against another Muslim kid. If all the factions cannot find a common enemy, they will continue to kill each other.
As an example, he pointed out that the sectarian violence in Iraq is a continuation of something that's been happening for 1400 years. He eventually turned his back on that and found a way to inner peace through Christianity.
But, those from the shallow gene pool who take memory-erasing drugs will never understand.
Posted by: Set you free | 2007-01-19 8:57:59 AM
Jack:
Betting the Brits will sort this out, it's already underway. We in Canada will take some time and maybe even a hit before the Leftist Hoards who have the ear of the MSM will see the light.
Posted by: Liz J | 2007-01-19 9:16:09 AM
The wanton murder of British citizens in London last Summer unquestionably woke up the politicians even
the fools around Blair. As I said to some of our British friends and associates. Look upon eliminating radical islam as important to the British Way of Life as the Battle of Britain in 1939-1940. Canada is reviewed today in the Expat
Telegraph Bulletin where we are considered too easy going and complacent in dealing with the threats of
radical islam, which I believe is behind the Revival of the FLQ as reported in Sun Media today. I will wager that the "FLQ Terrorists" making threats this time are radical Muslim immigrants from Algeria, Lebanon, Syria and France. MacLeod
Posted by: Jack MacLeod | 2007-01-19 10:25:58 AM
Jack:
Naw. Marc has already articulated that the Quebecois nation within a united Canada guards itself well in the preservation of its culture.
Therefore, I'm sure it cannot be those particular groups.
As for Marc and his seperatist buddies wanting to drive the Anglais out of Westmount through threats and fear tactics, well that's been done before.
Posted by: Set you free | 2007-01-19 10:43:31 AM
When the British conquered French North America they left a French Colony in what is now part of Quebec\
as a potential threat to the British Colonies on the eastern seaboard who even then were known to the British to be planning independence. The concept was that the fervent British Colonies would desist if faced with another French and Indian Threat. Thus
General Amherst sent BGeneral Townshend and Monckton to devise a plan to ensure French Canadian loyality
-retention of property,religion and language were the cornerstones. The "Quebec" that we know today in fact was created by hard edged ruthless British soldiers who went on to conquer India. Mention "Quebec Separatism in France and they just laugh
read: The Battle For A Continent" by former Journalist and U of T Professor Gordon Donaldson
and of course "Montcalm and Wolfe" by Historian Francis Parkman (a classic document). MacLeod
Posted by: Jack MacLeod | 2007-01-19 11:01:30 AM
The Islamic Republic of Great Britain.
Posted by: Philanthropist | 2007-01-19 11:55:26 AM
The muslims have figured, quite correctly, that a political entity no matter how backward or evil that can be protected from scrutiny or criticism by screams of racism will succeed in dominating western culture.
The post modern neurotic fear of appearing racist will prevent anyone from challenging this threat to civilization.
Let's face the truth that Islam is now far more a political ideology than a religion. It's the perfect storm readying itself to destroy and conquer the host countries from within.
Posted by: David | 2007-01-19 12:01:46 PM
Accusing someone of racism is rapidly losing it's clout, it's worn out, being used incorrectly and fuddled up with religion and sick cults thereof.
It's being relegated to nothing but jargon of the wacky Left and it is used by them to stifle truth.
Posted by: Liz J | 2007-01-19 12:34:31 PM
British Press Reported a recent court case where a
isgruntled patient of a Pakistani Trained Doctor
complained about being overcharged for nebulous
treatment, he called the Doctor a Black Paki Bastard
-Doctor cited him for Racism. Judge ruled, it was
acceptable to call the Doctor "a Paki Bastard" as long as Color was not part of the confrontation.
RAF Hero Wing Commander Guy P. Gibson VC.DSO,DFC
of Dam Busters Fame had a Labrador Mix Dog he called
"Nigger" - now UK BBC Film Makers are nervous about using the actual, real, historically accurate name of Gibson's lamented Dog. F*** Off
is a very appropriate and historic British Term
used hourly when I was in the RCAF. Jeez! MacLeod
Posted by: Jack MacLeod | 2007-01-19 12:35:09 PM
"In actual fact non French Speaking Immigrants detest Quebec, and the imposition of the notorious Language Laws."
So what? What has to be understood is that dominion is, by its very nature, the practice of inequality. One cannot both admire dominion and deplore the methods it requires.
Posted by: DJ | 2007-01-19 12:49:47 PM
http://www.vdare.com/letters/tl_011807.htm
"The following counties are ones to keep an eye on;
1.San Diego County, California...will be majority "Hispanic" in 20 years...meaning the under-25 age population will be at least 65% "Hispanic"...
2.Orange County, California...will be 45%-50% "Hispanic" by 2025....meaning the under-25 aged population will be at least 65% "Hispanic"...
bullet Maricopa County, Arizona...will be at least 50% "Hispanic" in 20 years...meaning racist Sheriffs like Joe Arpaio will be a thing of the past...
3.Pima County, Arizona...site of Tucson...will be 50%+ "Hispanic" by 2025....
bullet Clark County, Nevada will be over 40%+ "Hispanic" by 2025....seat of Las Vegas....meaning the under-25 aged population will be 50%+ "Hispanic"
4.Denver County , Colorado...will be over 50% "Hispanic" by 2025...meaning the under-25 aged population will be 65%+ "Hispanic"
5.Harris County, Texas... will be over 50% "Hispanic" by 2025...meaning the under-25 aged population will be 65%+ "Hispanic"
6.Travis County, Texas...will be over 50% "Hispanic" by 2025...meaning the under-25 aged population will be 65%+ "Hispanic"
7.Dallas County, Texas...will be over 50% "Hispanic" by 2025...meaning the under-25 aged population will be 65%+ "Hispanic"
In short, these counties will resemble the demographic profile of Los Angeles County, California or Bexar County, Texas TODAY...only the overwhelming majority of the "Hispanics" will be USA born and bred...
This means we will be the Sheriffs, Police, Mayors, County Supervisors, etc...will be FORCED to respond to "Hispanic" electorates and communities....DEMOCRACY, remember???
"Hispanic" PURCHASING POWER will surpass 1 TRILLION (with a T) dollars by 2010....consider the cultural implications of this as companies vie to market to this community...
By 2025...the income, wealth, educational, etc disparities between "Hispanics" and the general population will NARROW...though obviously not be erased....however...by SHEER FORCE OF NUMBERS...we will have a STRONG (25%+) presence on most southwestern states college campuses...
In short, whoever has a problem with this should consider going back to Europe, Asia, Africa, Middle East or whatever the case may be ...Cuba perhaps???
MEXICAN, NOT HISPANIC, NOT LATINO!!!
P.S. Sure hope I get to read Joe "The Wop" Guzzardi’s obituary SOON
...maybe we can send his corpse back to the land of his mama’s birth???
As a 28 year old man, I also look forward to reading Peter "The IMMIGRANT" Brimelow obituary as well...and GOD willing...I will also get to read the obituaries of Steve Sailer (who I have seen in person at the Beverly Center ...I felt like confronting him...I was in a large party...but...at the end of day...EVERYONE has a right to their opinion...even ME ), Pat Buchanan and Jared Taylor as well....the one thing you ALL have in common in that you are a bunch of OLD men...WE are the YOUTH...WE ARE THE FUTURE!!!
Mr Brimelow...if that bothers you....GO BACK TO ENGLAND where you belong!!!
By the time you are ALL dead...surely by the mid 2020s...OUR political muscle will be so strong...we will swat your replacements down like flies...."
Posted by: DJ | 2007-01-19 1:03:51 PM
So What! Last Time I looked this is Canada, don't really give a shit about Sunny California or Sunny Texas or the Mojave Desert. Tut Tut. MacLeod
Posted by: Jack MacLeod | 2007-01-19 1:15:10 PM
Well if that's the case, the US will just be another dirt floor, open sewered, corrupt third world country that everyone is trying to escape from. Who is going to run the power grid, the water system, etc.? Messicans? Good luck with that.
Posted by: David | 2007-01-19 1:26:09 PM
DJ
You sound just like the Hispanic version of a white supremacist.
Posted by: missing link | 2007-01-19 1:27:37 PM
Marc,
J'ai eu le poutine avant. Je peux vous dire que, il a goûté CORRECT la première fois.
Mais alors j'ai vomi ? Garçon d'Oh, il était terrible.
Ce n'a pas goûté si bon la deuxième fois.
Je comprends le concept des laines pures. Je comprends ce que c'est qu'elles veulent. Il n'est aucun différent que ce qu'elles ont toujours voulu. Dans le respect à ce que les trois personnes religieuses ont voulu, pouvez-vous dire la différence entre la voix de trois, et beaucoup, non ? Quoi qu'il en soit, le seul compromis serait poutine cacher.
And what have I done for my Province?
That would occupy a book Marc.
And I see no differene in what all Canadians want, and that is that newcomers enter into the culture of the location, with respect, keeping the peace. But I tell you, from what I see in Quebec, strong national identity has not made any difference in Unity. The gang violence is pretty evident from over here. And there are serious questions as to whether or not the ports are safe. As to the people who move to Quebec, well, from what I gather they are selected on the basis of whether they can speak French or not. Sure, this means Quebec retains its French character, but really, it does nothing to help Quebec retain its pure laine.
Posted by: Lady | 2007-01-19 1:34:08 PM
Do you think aircraft manufacturer Bombardier
who inherited a manufacturing plant created by Americans and Subsidized to about 100% can operate in French. Done lots of work with them over the years great company, full of practical pragmatic smart guys, who when they are selling in Germany make sure thay operate in German, all the specifications they deal with in Germany will be in German and English - we deal in the real world. If a Czech Immigrant is told he must speak French to go to Quebec he goes elsewhere. A fact of life in Canada 2007. MacLeod
Posted by: Jack MacLeod | 2007-01-19 1:48:44 PM
"Well if that's the case, the US will just be another dirt floor, open sewered, corrupt third world country that everyone is trying to escape from."
Very perceptive, David. Ditto Canada, if it too continues unfettered third world immigration unabated.
Posted by: DJ | 2007-01-19 2:08:14 PM
Lady c'mon.
I'm also not happy with the criminial gangs in Quebec (or anywhere in N-America) but race isn't a factor here: Before the Steet gangs, we had the Hells and Co. (White guys) and it was about the same numbers in crime rates so...
What's your suggestion ? Bringing back the Hells because their crime are more acceptable ?
It's a police issue and having nothing to do with what's holding Quebec togeter and strong: a common Unity.
By the way, I'm not answering you to understand what I'm talking about; I've tried many times to ask people here what's holding Canada togeter and none was able to answer. At least, in anotherway than bashing at Québec, the Devilish Province.
Anyways, I'm sincerly thanksfull that you try in many times to post in french as a kind intention, Lady. But It's impossible to understand and I want to so please answer me in English.
Tx
Posted by: Marc | 2007-01-19 2:40:51 PM
"If a Czech Immigrant is told he must speak French to go to Quebec he goes elsewhere."
Freedom of choice is a wonderful thing. Now if only (it's too late for Ontario) Alberta would invoke an English Bill 101, with the threat of Notwithstanding clause to back it up, all those who do not speak English can chose to go elsewhere. And all those publicly financed school programs, like the Ukrainians enjoy, can be dumped in the garbage bin.
Posted by: DJ | 2007-01-19 2:44:23 PM
"but race isn't a factor here"
Race of course is a factor. The Hell's Angels are bad, however, blacks and Hispanics are 18/19 times more likely than whites to participate in criminal gangs. Ditto aboriginals; just look at downtown Regina.
Posted by: DJ | 2007-01-19 2:49:55 PM
If you visit the Wizard, I'm sure he'll find you a brain!
Posted by: DJ | 2007-01-19 4:20:51 PM
Some creep in the Globe and Mail today is referring to the Leader of the Liberal Party of Canada as the "Next Great Prime Minister of Canada" who were the other "Great Prime Ministers"? I was always partial to Ms. Kim Campbell Ph.D - MacKenzie King and his little Doggie were impressive. King known as "Rex"
to his minions and Mother was partial to Whores.
Lisping Lester Pearson (Call me "Mike" was detested in much of the Liberal Party. Trudeau like it or not is considered an Icon in Canada, but I think Canada has the best PM in my lifetime right now, who in my opinion can put Citoyen Dion out of business - MacLeod
Posted by: Jack MacLeod | 2007-01-20 5:30:48 AM
Dink Dion will have a hard time proving he comes with no strings attached to his puppeteer and mentor, Papa Jean let alone being Canada's next 'great" prime minister.
We have the potential for the truly greatest PM right now by the name of Stephen Harper, he is well on his way.
He is even too clever for the sillies who make up our MSM.
Getting the un-spun news/truthful information is akin to sorting through the trashcans for slim pickings.
Posted by: Liz J | 2007-01-20 7:18:28 AM
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