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Monday, January 15, 2007
How Canada’s Liberals Have Run Out of Ideas
I have not become an expert of Canadian politics yet, but I don't try to hide my resentment for the Liberals and other blind leftists who have driven this great country into ground and I believe they intend to keep doing it because they certainly think Canada is theirs and no one else has any right to have a say in running this country.
It just shows how shallow and hollow Liberals are... It's a must read
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Corruption isn't an issue with any staying power; people forget and move on. It's powerful only when it's fresh.
The issues for the next election may include the environmental or climate-related, but in my opinion the public will be receptive to a message that reveals the doom-sayers and scaremongers for what they are, gets everyone to place climate change back into perspective, and gets attention back to air and water issues where it really belongs. People relate better to stuff they can see and understand. Besides, lots of people know deep down that parties to the left are hypocrites and opportunists, and a bit of calm on the GW issue will be welcomed AND will make people doubt other hand-wringing claims from the opposition.
The rest of the issues? A responsible international presence for Canada, and responsible use of taxpayers' money at home, will bring voters both pride and gratitude. We'll reward that at the polls.
Posted by: Halfwise | 2007-01-15 6:08:13 PM
Dont' worry about the Liebrals running out of ideas. They never had any to begin with. They scrounge them off the others.
Posted by: Zebulon Pike | 2007-01-15 6:23:48 PM
We have a recent Iranian immigrant who admits that he "hasn't become an expert yet", praising the musings of a recent Dutch immigrant (who bases his analysis on a discussion that took place at a polar bear swim) and being echoed by a Polish immigrant who is, well, certifiably insane, and by a guy who has a hate on for everyone in Ontario (which only makes up 1/3 of the population of the country).
Boy, analysis doesn't get much more trenchant than that.
BTW, love that "yet". Sort of like Gary Coleman saying he hasn't reached his potential as an NBA centre "yet".
Posted by: truewest | 2007-01-15 7:00:16 PM
Gosh, truewest, I feel left out. But perhaps it was because you had nothing intelligent to say about the actual topic. Is this your habit?
Posted by: Halfwise | 2007-01-15 8:07:18 PM
Actually, halfwise, while I don't agree with your analysis or share your politics, you distinguished yourself by not trafficking entirely in cliche or invective or, in Karol's case, rank idiocy.
But if it makes you feel better, I think you underestimate the importance of environmental issues and vastly overrate the political upside of Afghanistan.
As for you,Karol, I've read Huxley, but unlike you, I'm not goofy enough to take Brave New World as prophecy. As for your link to David Wornout, I think the word you're grasping for is "contagious". Unless, of course, you mean that your doltishness has somehow clogged Mr. Wornout's sinuses, cutting off the flow of oxygen to his brain just as it has yours.
Posted by: truewest | 2007-01-15 8:32:48 PM
Posted by: truewest | 2007-01-15 9:17:26 PM
All you get. All you deserve.
Posted by: truewest | 2007-01-15 9:26:30 PM
truewest, one doesnt have to be an expert to find out how dumb Fiberals are in running this country. Btw, what else do you have to add to discussion other than some personal attacks?
Posted by: Winston | 2007-01-15 9:28:57 PM
It actually helps to have some sense of ANY country's political history before you start flapping your gums. Unless, of course, you're content to ape the nitwits who post here. Which, apparently, you are.
The Liberal Party is pragmatic centrist big-tent political party, which is why it has held power for as long as it has. And along the way, it's changed Canada for the better in any number of ways. Liberals gave us the Charter. Liberals eliminated the deficit. Liberals kept Canada out of the ill-considered war in Iraq. And what has Little Stevie Firewall done?
Posted by: truewest | 2007-01-15 9:41:52 PM
Yep, your right truewest..liberals are a big tent political party..they have lots of room to accept every carpet bagging bottom feeder
who knows which side of the bread his butter is on..
The party attracts the kind of person who values power above principle,and really, when you have little to say, you can soar under the radar for many years with no policy of substance..
Yes, i am sure the liberals trumpet their meagre accomplishments, but i would certainly not crow about adscam,income trust scandals,the HRDC swindle, a billion dollar+ failed gun registry, no action on the environment in thirteen years,a lack of military force to augment Canadas international roles or lib MP's dancing in the streets with known terrorists..
A can of tomatoe soup could have ran this country such was the lack of vision over the years from the liberals..i guess it is easier to retain power by promising much, and delivering so little..come to think of it, even the soup can had recipes ideas..
Posted by: kursk | 2007-01-15 10:07:01 PM
I note that you spell tomato the same way Dan Quayle spelled potato - with the extra e. you guys go to the same school?
Posted by: truewest | 2007-01-15 10:18:42 PM
Liberals may have run out of ideas, but at least their hatreds will keep them warm at night...
Posted by: Philanthropist | 2007-01-15 10:49:01 PM
Funny that you should choose the Shotgun to whine about "hatreds", Liberal or otherwise. After all, this is less a place for the exchange of conservative ideas than one where right-wing cranks get together to whine about the perfidy of the other 85-90% of the political spectrum.
Posted by: truewest | 2007-01-15 10:57:40 PM
I would agree that the Liberals really do have little to be proud of. Unfortunately successive Ottawa-centric governments have played the divide and conquer game for so long that they have permanently damaged the cohesive fabric of this nation I fear we are now forever relegated to a minority government situation.
You really do seem vacuous in your offerings. Do you have anything of substance to add beyond egotistical ramblings?
Posted by: missing link | 2007-01-15 11:28:28 PM
Yes truewest you must be a true lieberal so tolerant you people of the red L, unless of course someone disagrees with your opinion, then in true liberal tolerance you would like to smite them with your purse like your new leader probably would. Your greatest accomplishments I read have been hair dressing and taming cats,sewing and eating the food supplied by conservatives, you losers couldn't feed yourselves in a dumpster behind a Mcdonalds your so dull.
Posted by: bartinsky | 2007-01-15 11:34:00 PM
Nah, I'm saving the good stuff for people I like and respect. But it's fun pointing out how full of shit you guys are.
Besides, what could be more vacuous than the subject of this thread and the musings that you folks add to it? Basically, it's a bunch of nitwits who don't like liberals telling each other they don't like liberals. Or Fiberals. Or Lieberals. Or Libranos. Or whatever.
That sort of bonehead rhetorics would be inane and irritating in other circumstances -- say, overheard at a bar, from two tables away while the Canucks are beating the Leafs (or Flames) -- but here it's just comical.
Posted by: truewest | 2007-01-15 11:37:24 PM
You said "Corruption isn`t an issue with any staying power...."
According to reports we can expect the RCMP to lay criminal charges regarding ADSCAM at any time now...this will have legs for a long time. This will hurt the Liberals mainly in Quebec and to a lessor degree in Ont. Also HRDC is still being investigated...we have just seen the tip of the iceberg to date...lots more to come!
Posted by: Al W | 2007-01-15 11:46:04 PM
Truewest comes here to insult people and to argue. That's it. It never changes.
Already, in this short thread: rank idiocy, goofy, doltish, flapping your gums, right-wing cranks, certifiably insane, nitwits. Prime Minister Harper is "Little Stevie Firewall."
Truewest is reflexively abusive, and treats the Shotgun as a place for him to take a sarcastic dump. This is the only prominent blog that doesn't censor trolls, like truewest. So it's all sarcasm and insults, all the time for truewest.
Hey, have any of the commenters here seen truewest commenting anywhere else? If you have, please name the blog(s). I'm curious.
Truewest, where else do you comment?
Posted by: EBD | 2007-01-16 12:09:49 AM
I wish I were there to give you a great big hug just to let you know there are people who care for you. Cheer up. Tomorrow is another day. I hope you feel better. Just let the anger and bitterness go.
Posted by: h2o273kk9 | 2007-01-16 1:07:30 AM
I agree with EBD. I was one of the first few commenters here at the Shotgun nearly three years ago. I have vociferously supported Mr. Levant's free-speech experiment here, and I continue to do so.
Nevertheless, one thing about a truly free speakers' corner, like a pub without a bouncer, is that it will tend to collect those hopeless drunks and sociopaths that have been kicked out by every bouncer in town.
As Mr. Levant has said, sometimes it's ugly. But I must say, anthropologically speaking, it's very interesting, sort of like in the way a vrie universitat is interesting, and sort of like in the way a tragedy of the commons is interesting.
Meanwhile, it's up to the audience responding in front of the soap-box. If you shy away from the axiological crack-pots, if you engage instead the considerate commenter, then you can help save the commons.
Let's face it: I'm not special -- if I can avoid engaging truewest for months on end, so can you.
Posted by: Vitruvius | 2007-01-16 1:33:38 AM
Actually, Vitruvius, a true speaker's corner, like the one in Hyde Park in London, will attract those who heckle and challenge speakers who mount the soap box and spew nonsense. It's as essential to the phenomena as the soap-box itself that passersby can tell the person exercising their free speech that they're full of it, that they have their facts wrong, that they actually know less than nothing about the subject on which they have chosen to hold forth or, indeed, that they're a blot on the landscape.
In this ideological echo chamber (as in other ideological echo chambers across the internet) such impudence is denounced as "trolling". It is nothing of the sort. Trolling, if one considers its roots in angling, clearly denotes the practice of posting an outrageous statement in hopes of generating an inflamed reaction.
In my case, I'm not looking for a reaction, I'm offering one. And if that reaction involves some measure of derision for you and your ideas, well, that's part of the tradition too. You want something different, where everyone plays nicey-nice and where there's a stultifying consensus on the general principles (i.e: Steve Harper=GOOD, Liberals=BAD) and differences only on the details, well, just say so. But don't sully the name of "speaker's corner" by attaching it to this mutant off-spring. If you're looking for a more accurate tag, might I suggest "circle jerk"?
I don't know where you get this idea I'm angry or bitter. Far from it. I'm laughing myself silly. Especially when folks like EBD post comments like, "Truewest comes here to insult people and to argue. That's it. It never changes."
Far from it, EBD. I come here to argue, to insult and to BE insulted. Oh, and for the odd death threat from the more lunatic and literal-minded denizens of the Shotgun.
Posted by: truewest | 2007-01-16 5:44:33 AM
Al - If there is something fresh in the news, it will get attention, but my opinion is that people respond more strongly to recent rumours and current issues than to ancient facts and crimes.
Sad in some ways; a relief if you consider that every political party is made up of human beings. We are all capable of corruption, if left to our own devices in a toxic atmosphere for long enough. And all should be pursued equally under the law, regardless of status or party affiliation.
Posted by: Halfwise | 2007-01-16 6:19:13 AM
Truewest, and your lovely Liberals have ruined Canada.
Posted by: Winston | 2007-01-16 6:37:28 AM
The fact that the voters of Toronto show no compunction by continuing to vote Liberal in the face of all their corruption speaks volumes. They are quite happy to be part of the what's-in-it-for-me crowd of weasels. So too the Atlantic Provinces.
At least the voters in Quebec have enough scruples to punish rather than reward Liberals for their sleazy politics. With more Adscam charges coming soon it will be interesting to see if it has sticking power.
Posted by: Liz J | 2007-01-16 7:02:43 AM
Liberals...Conservatives...both wade in the shallow pool of political opportunity and compromise.
Posted by: ALIO | 2007-01-16 8:21:58 AM
The secret would be to find a way to rise above the shallowness.
Pointing out that humans are imperfect takes no talent. It's pretty obvious. And, finding fault in others while pretending none exist in you does NOT make an individual better at all.
Ultimately, acknowledging and correcting your own faults is the way to rise above the hatred and ignorance below.
Defining yourself as a combatant in the shallow pool of politics makes you one of the shallow pool.
Posted by: Set you free | 2007-01-16 8:42:16 AM
Liberal Leader by more or less popular demand appeared in Halifax NS last week and delivered a speech just bursting with ideas, problem was that few in the audience could fully understand his interpretation of English, same thing in Toronto yesterday as reported by Greg Weston in the Ottawa
Sun today. Noted with interest that the dual citizen leader of the Red Machine chose to visit only the French Club at the University of Alberta. It was made clear however by the new leader he intends to follow and impliment the "policies" of those two outstanding masked men of yesteryear
Martin and Crouton - Know a lot of Real Liberals in our Country and to put it mildly, they are pissed. MacLeod
Posted by: Jack MacLeod | 2007-01-16 8:44:30 AM
SYF: Can I suggest water wings ? :) .......
Posted by: Markalta | 2007-01-16 8:49:55 AM
Set You Free - I feel like I just finished watching a short from The Maharishi on the Hilarious House of Frankenstein.
Today, I just feel throwing stones...
Posted by: ALIO | 2007-01-16 9:02:35 AM
So, things are not going well in your glass house this morning?
Posted by: Set you free | 2007-01-16 9:13:14 AM
Jack it becoes more apparent every day that Dion cannot communicate and I suppose that as he gets challenged in the House by Baird and Harper , that the media will try to elicit the pity vote ; you know he`s a dufus but he`s our dufus wrapped in green and standing tall for the future of all , especially ' the children ' . This seems to be the only explanation as to why he was installed by Gerard Kennedy . I reiterate ,Kennedy should be up for the Order of Canada, for his service to the country.
Posted by: daveh | 2007-01-16 9:39:50 AM
"Liberals...Conservatives...both wade in the shallow pool of political opportunity and compromise."
Posted by: ALIO | 16-Jan-07 8:21:58 AM
Liberals appear to compromise with anyone but Conservatives.
When Liberals hold power in a majority government they never compromise with anyone except to correct an oversite, but always it is a compromise in appearance only.
Liberal politics are identity politics. Divide and conquer is their philosophy.
The groups the Liberals never compromise with are English speaking whitemen and Christians.
As to the shallow pool analogy. While ALIO has admitted being in the shallow pool with his Liberal overlords it is incumbent upon me to mention that those in the shallow pool cannot comprehend the depth of others and are deluded into thinking everyone swims with their personal self-limiting restrictions.
Fundamentally, people who want government to think for them, to shoulder the risks for them, and to produce the life and choices they should be making for themselves are going lack creativity and when they are creative the product will be divorced from reality.
Necessity is the Mother of Invention.
Posted by: Speller | 2007-01-16 9:45:49 AM
Liberals = Big tent operation
Barnham & Baily = Big tent operation
These are the two solitudes of the Left.
Posted by: Duke | 2007-01-16 9:53:24 AM
Yet, it is Christians who more likely display classic liberal values of compassion, charity and tolerance toward others.
Liberal has become a brand-name which seems to have spawned a modern-day vision of intolerance toward ancient wisdom, while charity seems to be something destined for their own pockets once they gain power.
Posted by: Set you free | 2007-01-16 9:58:37 AM
Speller - So, I cast a pox on both houses and end up a Liberal?
Posted by: ALIO | 2007-01-16 10:05:09 AM
Both Martin and Chretien hi jacked the Liberal Party
from which the long established entity has not recovered, nor may ever recover. I think Daveh is right and the so called Dion "Victory" is being defined at the moment in a Book by Red Star writer Linda Diebel, who got on the Kennedy-Chretien-Dion wagon from day one. As Weston points out Professor Dion likes to "lecture" but cannot deliver. Dion as "leader" is on the whole good news for PM Harper
who has some top notch debaters in his portfolio, and appears to be getting good advice. MacLeod
Posted by: Jack MacLeod | 2007-01-16 10:10:49 AM
It's good to see Weston is trying to break away from the Ottawa groupthink.
He even mentions in his story today that Small Dead Animals is one of his favourite blog.
As an aside, I have mentioned in one of my replies to Marc that my immigrant parents did not know a word of English when they came to Canada. After going through self-taught English, they became much more comprehensible than either Chretien or Dion.
The milk cow analogy is a beauty. We Albertans understand all too well that the west is the cash cow of Confederation whose assets Central Canada regurgitates and uses to crap on Atlantic Canada.
It's good to see Weston coming around. For a while there, I was frustrated with his stuff.
Posted by: Set you free | 2007-01-16 10:20:46 AM
"While ALIO has admitted being in the shallow pool with his Liberal overlords it is incumbent upon me to mention that those in the shallow pool cannot comprehend the depth of others and are deluded into thinking everyone swims with their personal self-limiting restrictions."
It says you have admitted being in the shallow pool with your Liberal overlords.
Perhaps your need to read it more deeply and ponder a great while. You live in Ontario don't you, Albertan Living In Ontario.(ALIO)
Nice oxymoron you have for a nic. Shallow.
Posted by: Speller | 2007-01-16 11:01:11 AM
Set you free,
"Both Martin and Chrétien hi jacked the Liberal Party from which the long established entity has not recovered, nor may ever recover"
...Macleod was talking about wasn’t referring to a language mater. If it did, he would have to explain why "the long established entity" previous to Chrétien and Co. was built and driven by many French Canadians and PM.
...And, there have been such things as French PM and politicians from the CP and other religious political parties that have merged with it.
The system they've built had favoured immigration in Canada that has allowed YOUR PARENTS to choose Canada has a great place for the future of their children. Your ability to live here, as a free man, inna more than appreciable system comes directly from the work of a lot of French Canadians.
You don’t understand well enough what those Canadian PM were saying?
…Wait until 6 o’clock: more intelligent people than you will explain everything.
"As an aside, I have mentioned in one of my replies to Marc that my immigrant parents did not know a word of English when they came to Canada. After going through self-taught English, they became much more comprehensible than either Chrétien or Dion."
Wow, how great from them since they IMMIGRATED INNA OFFICIALY ENGLISH PROVINCE in an Officially English CANADA that have helped them in many ways...
Posted by: Marc | 2007-01-16 11:17:50 AM
All any of us expect from Weston and all other reporters is fair, balanced reporting but too many can't get past their love affair with the Liberals.
The Toronto"RED" Star is a Liberal publication, The Globe and Mail is becoming more outrageous by the day through some of it's scribes like supreme twit Taber et al.
No wonder Newspapers are going the way of Warren Kinsella's toy dinosaur.
Posted by: Liz J | 2007-01-16 11:21:21 AM
Just came across a review of a new book. I have wondered how long it would take after 9/11 for a book like this to come out. If this book is well written, it could become a best seller.
"I am saying that the cultural left and its allies in Congress, the media, Hollywood, the nonprofit sector, and the universities are the primary cause of the volcano of anger toward America that is erupting from the Islamic world," explains D'Souza.
Full article here:
Posted by: Brent Weston | 2007-01-16 11:57:47 AM
I do not know which is more annoying.
Those who come to sites like this to troll for reactions to their antagonistic remarks....or those stupid enough to take their obvious bait.
On to the topic....
Although I inherently distrust all politicians,I currently see stark differences in the supporters of these parties.This has been made abundantly clear by recent history.
When the Mulroney Tories were awash in patronage and arrogance(call it a sense of entitlement if you wish),conservatives themselves turned on the party and effectively destroyed it.They helped the liberals to a massive majority,concurrently punishing those who had betrayed them.They then proceeded to form new conservative parties with fresh visions....eventually putting aside their own party affiliations to create a reinvigorated and reunited vision of conservatism in Canada.This transformation took over a decade.
Compare that to the liberals....
When the Liberal Party of Canada was exposed as being riddled with questionable business dealings,corruption,and an unprecedented sense of entitlement,their supporters condoned these abhorrent behaviors by rewarding them with over 100 seats.No outrage at the dishonesty.No outrage at the lack of any real vision.No outrage at the scandal.No outrage at being betrayed.Not even any f*cking outrage over the millions stolen.Only Quebecers' utter disgust with Adscam kept the LPC from forming yet another undeserved government.
Now,out of power only 1 year,they have yet to punish those who betrayed them,create any fresh vision to rally behind or even admit the seriousness of their party's past misdeeds.
They are however,continuing their old ways,squarely focused on nothing more than regaining power,denigrating anything and anyone who dare oppose their perceived right to govern.
They continue to display an arrogant contemptuous belief that they are STILL entitled.An arrogant contempt that seems to permeate their entire party....from their leaders right down to the hateful little liberal footsoldiers who frequent these conservative blogsites.
Posted by: Canadian Observer | 2007-01-16 12:22:39 PM
The Liberals brought in the Charter (which has some redeeming qualities) and have used to to advance tyranny of the minority. The bulk of federal power now resides with 17% of the population because of them.
They continue to push national efforts like day care, health, and gun registries further intruding on the areas of provincial domain.
They created the deficit, so I don't credit them for getting rid of it during good economical times. It would have been a useful feat if they had gotten rid of the debt or at least paid down a minimum of a hundred billion of it within their 13 years. It is now at 481.5 billion.
Their vision is a failed ideology. They have only the environment left as an issue. If they were indeed pragmatic, then climate change would not be such an issue. Instead, they would finally be pushing their 2000 clean air plan.
One thing I did like was their downloading to the provinces which gave some of the power back to where it belongs.
John M Reynolds
Posted by: jmrSudbury | 2007-01-16 12:45:44 PM
Jack McLeod, your reporting that you "Know a lot of Real Liberals in our Country and to put it mildly, they are pissed" has just made my day!
Posted by: 'been around the block | 2007-01-16 1:13:54 PM
Ya they downloaded gay marriage , abortion , day care ,bilingualism and a gun control boondoggle , as you say . Let`s not even get into Indian affairs , immigration and welfare . Thanks a lot.
Dion , a presumed expert on all things environmental, is , as you say their last kick at the can . He is the great white hope at holding the Conservatives to another minority. Credit Harper with heading them off at the pass . I doubt Canadians are able to see thru it .
Posted by: daveh | 2007-01-16 1:22:45 PM
I watched Toronto based very senior Liberal Strategists for many months setting a game plan in place to make Professor Michael Ignatieff Leader
of the Poloitical Party virtually ruined by three
rascals in succession, Turner, Chretien and Martin.
Dion was most certainly not part of the equation
-But the strategy was flawed from the start, first in assuming that Ignatieff was a "Liberal", in fact his uncle, the late Dr. George Grant, MacMaster, Dalhousie was one of the foremost Conservative thinkers in Canada, a great friend of PM Difenbaker, and an acclaimed Academic who detested Pearson. What no one considered was manipulation by Chretien, who although disliked by the Toronto establishment, Chretien is greatly admired in the ranks of the "Liberal foot soldiers' Chretien cleverly played on the ambitions of Ontario Liberals like Kennedy by ensuring that in return for "their" delegates the votes went to Dion. The hard edged traditional Liberal families in Canada were astonished when they realized that they had been manipulated and screwed again. Ignatieff in my opinion will return to Harvard and several of his most vocal supporters will quit the Party. Right now today,
Dion et al are attempting to block PM P.E. Treaudeu's Son getting the Liberal Nomination in
his Father's former seat, in favor of Frualla, (a certifiable bird brain as clueless or worse than Taber). I don't think the Public will consider Dion over Harper. Harper is the PM we should have had four-five decades ago. MacLeod
Posted by: Jack Macleod | 2007-01-16 2:26:40 PM
Well Dink Dion has already pledged to put more women in his party, by whatever means who knows.
Lisa Frulla is is certainly a known name , sometimes that's all it takes for lazy, robotic voters. The weasels pulling the Dink's strings will be hard at manipulating each and every riding.
Hey, Chretien liked Sheila Copps, maybe he can pull her out of "retirement" for another run. She fills the bill being a woman and with loads of experience, she'd be well ahead of the likes of Frulla.
Posted by: Liz J | 2007-01-16 2:40:32 PM
Speller - Sorry I missed your play on words. Often there is some much pointless bile thrown around on this blog that I misread the nuggets of pointed humour.
Posted by: ALIO | 2007-01-16 5:14:30 PM
"I come here... to insult ..."
Thx for the honesty. It explains why I can't have a civil discussion with you no matter how hard I try.
"Let's face it: I'm not special -- if I can avoid engaging truewest for months on end, so can you."
Why? I can't reach his mind without trying. I realize I have to first break through the fog of blind hatred but it is still fun to try.
"Nevertheless, one thing about a truly free speakers' corner, like a pub without a bouncer, is that it will tend to collect those hopeless drunks and sociopaths that have been kicked out by every bouncer in town."
Where does truewest fit in?
"I do not know which is more annoying.
Those who come to sites like this to troll for reactions to their antagonistic remarks....or those stupid enough to take their obvious bait."
What about those who troll the trolls?
Posted by: h2o273kk9 | 2007-01-16 5:25:50 PM
You know where Liberals get their ideas these days?
No, this is not a joke, but it could read like one.
Well, they come onto conservative Blogs, and do what they know best, as in, rob-rob-robbery!
Dion is taking the green thing, and applying a conservative view on it.
Well, if you cannot convince government to go green, then convince Fiberals that only a Liberal government could take green technology, and make a mint out of it.
What a pile of nonsense.
Everyone, who is anyone, knows that the only way green could ever make a buck, would be if it were permitted on a free market.
Dion is furthermore using people's fear of the future, to get himself elected PM.
Fact remains, we have lived by Fiberal policies, for too long.
Actually, it has been such a long time since the Fiberals signed Kyoto Protocol. And during that period of time, they did NOTHING for the environment.
And now, after their abysmal failure, they expect to come back, on the same old lies as always, that they would be able to do Canada proud, off of green technologies.
We should never forget that during the last Fiberal decade and a bit, they made certain that more Canadians lost their homes, and went homeless, than in ANY period of time, in the history of and before Canada, going back to time well before Europeans landed on this wonderful part of the earth.
And during that same period of time, more Canadians became hooked on illegal drugs, and became very sick, than during any period of time.
And, more people are working longer hourse, at less pay (except for parts of the west) than they have done so at any time, in a very long time.
And now, they come across as though they, and they only, can bring Canada up-to-green-date!
Let me tell you this. A vote for Fiberals and also NDP will place us on the course for total destruction, both economic and environmental.
Posted by: Lady | 2007-01-16 5:37:39 PM
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