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Sunday, December 10, 2006

Heigh Ho, Heigh Ho

My latest, at the Star -- about Bill C-257.

Cross-posted at Wonkitties.

Posted by wonkitties on December 10, 2006 in Canadian Politics | Permalink


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This could be an excellent oppertunity to sell all federally regulated companies to the private sector. Most government outfits are not efficient or productive.

Posted by: jema54j | 2006-12-10 10:45:54 AM

Rondi, can we get the names of the conservatives who are supporting the bill?
Maybe they need some email inquiries as to why they support!

Posted by: Joe Molnar | 2006-12-10 11:19:56 AM

The problem with this kind of legislation is that it directly leads to overseas outsourcing. In most cases, employers really don't want to ship jobs overseas, and won't as long as the cost/ regulatory part of the equation isn't far out of balance.

This is exactly the sort of new legislation that pushes companies over the brink. Let's be clear about what this legislation does: it means that a company cannot continue its business during a strike. That's a catastrophic risk. Companies will take measures to manage that risk. Overseas call-centre operators don't present this kind of risk- ergo, say goodbye to some jobs in Canada.

And this is a good thing?

Posted by: SPare | 2006-12-10 11:54:21 AM

A very bad time for this Bill to appear. The facts are as reported in the daily reports of the Aerospace Association of America, and other industry sources, technology and aerospace companies are not investing in Canada, particulary in the Provinces of Alberta and Ontario, and have written off the entire Atlantic Region. Quebec is currently nearly a basket case. A major aerospace investment we worked on for several years was blocked in Nova Scotia by Provincial and Federal bureaucrats, and we recommended they locate in the State of New York which is very user friendly. The facility was formally opened by Senator Hilary Rodham Clinton D NY. The decision was made by the bureaucrats because of the high incidence of craft unions in the long established aerospace company. In the real world individuals who cost their employers millions of dollars of lost (tax) revenue, would have been terminated. MacLeod

Posted by: Jack MacLeod | 2006-12-10 12:30:35 PM

I have compiled a list of Tory supporters of C-257 and have posted it back at my website.

Posted by: bigcitylib | 2006-12-10 12:36:29 PM


Posted by: tinyvillagelib | 2006-12-10 12:43:17 PM

Almost 20% of the Party voted against scab labor. Do a few Tories actually have a soul?

Posted by: bigcitylib | 2006-12-10 1:06:06 PM


One thing I found quite interesting in your list is that the overwhelming majority were eastern Tories, is there a difference? Is there a difference between east and West Conservative mentality? That article also mentioned that those going offshore were few and that it was just fear mongering. Not so. Definitely not so. More and more companies importing and exporting goods are using offshore companies to skim off most of the profits before they hit our shores. Why? Because of greedy governments and bills like 257.

If Governments and bureaucrats had a perception, however small, of how entrepreneurs think and work this Country would be far wealthier that it is at present. It’s really not rocket science, tax me fairly and give me stable and reasonable laws that don’t change at the every whim of some idiot politician and why would I leave. For all of those out there that say I am the greedy one I say this, by even inferring that, it tells me you just don’t get it, go away, good bye, I’m not about to tell you, continue living with your reality hick views of financial reality.

Posted by: Western Canadian | 2006-12-10 1:38:06 PM

The slow, inexorable Quebecification of Canada continues. Soon we will all be prisoners of that failed socialist experiment.

Posted by: johndoe124 | 2006-12-10 1:49:41 PM

Western Canadian,

I noticed that too, although there were a couple BCers as well. My recollections of B.C. is that in some ridings they can flip from NDP to whatever right wing party is around while totally skipping the Libs.

I personally am more surprised that there weren't more Quebec Tories (I think maybe there were two out of about ten or twelve).

Actually, I think they [the bureaucrats] do understand how Entrepeneurs think. They know entrepeneurs are as much slaves to their jobs as your typical longshoreman is. Therefore you jam a tube up their ass and suck money out. Treat them like the engines of the enonomy and hang weights on 'em. 99.9% are pure wind, and won't rebel.

And society runs smoothly, like it does in Canada.

Posted by: bigcitylib | 2006-12-10 2:05:00 PM

I have felt your aptly described tube, but no more, and it's a nice feeling.

The Government sidesteps the offshore problem but puts on a big front. Do you remember a couple of months ago the government announced they were cracking down on offshore business transactions and bank accounts? Nothing but smoke, in fact they actually backed off in a couple of areas. The announcement was purely for public consumption of the "problem" and meaningless. What they very soon realized was that they would only compound the problem by seeing more of the manufacturing disappear. As with government look for one or two highly publicized case they can showcase then back to business as usual. What one must remember is the oil companies have been doing this for decades.

Posted by: Western Canadian | 2006-12-10 3:07:20 PM


What are the lyrics to: O New France?

Posted by: Set you free | 2006-12-10 3:12:23 PM

Western Canadian,

The tube is a nice feeling, or its absence? Your remark is unclear.

Posted by: bigcitylib | 2006-12-10 3:26:17 PM

You are absolutely clear, you are a smartass.
How about you stick four fingers up your ass and whistle.

Posted by: Liz J | 2006-12-10 3:39:38 PM

*tsk* Such language.

Posted by: Lez-ra | 2006-12-10 3:59:18 PM

I would suggest this is like entering the wrong way. Like entering the wrong way on the road while driving.

We should remove those kind of hurdles when our economy is on the verge of slowing down because of the competition of Asia.

In Québec, CGI last Spring transferred a large chunk of its operations to India. Result? A friend of mine lost his job and has not found one yet. A large number of people have lost their jobs.

It certainly is a destructive law. People voting for this intend to destroy our economy.

Posted by: Rémi Houle | 2006-12-10 4:11:23 PM

The zealots on the environment front would also put a huge dent in our economy.
The Conservatives have a realistic plan,aware that it can't be a wham-bam action. The Liberals had nothing after the signature on the Kyoto Accord aside form shipping big bucks to places like Russia and the favorite destination of some key Liberal operatives, China.

Dual Citizen Dion, new leader of Liberals, did next to nothing in his two year tenure as Environment Minister. Compared to the Conservative's action after only ten months in office there is no legitimate criticism.

Posted by: Liz J | 2006-12-10 4:48:09 PM

I thought for the most part employment issues were supposed to be a provincial matter in the Constitution. I know the Courts follow it only when it suits them. Does anyone know if Stelmach will "notwithstanding" this if it passes?

Posted by: Brent Weston | 2006-12-10 7:30:35 PM

BigCitylib it's absence naturally.Money talks with it's feet.

Posted by: Western Canadian | 2006-12-10 7:47:37 PM

It's the "few other things" I was concerned about.

Posted by: Brent Weston | 2006-12-11 4:20:24 PM

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