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Saturday, December 09, 2006
Blair Must Have Read Steyn's Book
From the Telegraph;
"Tony Blair formally declared Britain's multicultural experiment over yesterday as he told immigrants they had ''a duty" to integrate with the mainstream of society.
These included "equality of respect" - especially better treatment of women by Muslim men - allegiance to the rule of law and a command of English.
He added: "Conform to it; or don't come here. We don't want the hate-mongers, whatever their race, religion or creed."
Remember a time when making this sort of statement wouldn't have been considered brave, merely right?
Go back a bit further and do you remember a time when this was not a point you had to make to incoming immigrants? Immigrants knew what was expected of them... and most of them thrived, not by utilizing the welfare state, but through their own initiative. And they still managed to keep their cultures and traditions alive...
It's about time Mr. Blair... Now who else in Eurasia will follow Blair's lead?
UPDATE - In the comments, ghollingshead makes the comment, "Maybe this is why Blair spoke up."
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Can we hope to see such a normal policy implemented in Canada, as it is long overdue?
Posted by: Alain | 2006-12-10 12:59:54 AM
How long before Blair is called a "hate-monger"?
Posted by: Pete E | 2006-12-10 1:58:34 AM
Tony Blair is England's greatest traitor.
"...it is in the issue of immigration that one sees what one loves, one's home and culture, being altered and bent like plasticine with neither consultation nor consent; the taking of a hammer to an object already under stress.
The right to decide who lives amongst them is one of the most profound rights of any nation of citizens.
Blair came to power in 1997 wanting to increase immigration. No other conclusion supports the facts. Whether he was motivated by ideology, a flawed understanding of economics, a desire to ingratiate himself with the business class or my own personal belief, that he profoundly hates everything about the United Kingdom and its people and will do everything in his power to change both it and them, he did not tell us that was his plan."
Anthony bleedin’ Blair – English-hater, Surface Man, Bilderberg bum-boy – is driven by a single bent and twisted desire to replace the English people in their ancestral homeland. He is the perpetrator of a slow ineluctable theft, a theft of an age-old homeland of a gallant people. He is the the lying, loathsome Prime Minister of advanced liberalism, Goebbels with a pixie-face. He is the instigator of a portending genocide unrivaled in the annals of English history.
Posted by: DJ | 2006-12-10 2:32:30 AM
Uh, get off the fence, DJ and take a stand will you ? I'm afraid that you are being simplistic putting the blame all on Blair. The problem started long before he came to power.
Posted by: Markalta | 2006-12-10 2:48:15 AM
When will Canada follow this?
Posted by: Winston | 2006-12-10 3:21:24 AM
Like other posters, I agree: Canada has to make it very clear to immigrants what is expected of them, and that is that they are expected to learn English (possibly French) immediately and find a job to bear the financial responsiblity for their family and not expect the Canadian taxpayer to. I know that many already do, but too many don't, and stay in their ethnic/racial "war zones" they've brought from their country of origin.
The Liberals have set the immigration system up so that too many immigrants get financial perks well past the period they need this kind of help, in order to buy votes from Canada's immigrant population.
This has got to stop.
There's a discussion going on at SDA, on the same topic. Kate has posted Dinesh D'Souza's article:
"Multiculturalism: Fact or Threat?" (http://www.hillsdale.edu/imprimis/2001/september/default.htm).
It's an excellent article and makes the point I have been making for a long time, that it's no accident that the West nurtures democratic freedoms. This is what D'Souza has to say:
Western civilization is not distinguished by colonialism and slavery, but by its institutions of democracy, capitalism, and science. These institutions were developed because of a peculiar dynamism in Western civilization -- a dynamism driven by the combination of Western philosophy and theology. And it is these institutions, I believe, that comprise the source of Western strength and explain the West's long-standing dominance in the world. In keeping with this, and contrary to multiculturalist doctrine, America's unparalleled power in the present is sustained far less by military force than by the force of its ideas and institutions.
Canadians seem reluctant, however, to admit that Judeo-Christian principles, upon which Western democracies are largely founded, are one of the main reasons why democracy has flourished (as imperfect as the system is) in the West.
Given the fact that under successive governments since Trudeau began the assault, Christianity has been all but erased from the public square, certainly from the public education system (bilingualism, feminism, and multiculturalism are the new religions), it's probably little wonder that most Canadians have no idea of the role that Judeo-Christian principles have played in the forming of our Canadian democracy.
Posted by: 'been around the block | 2006-12-10 6:07:54 AM
Canada had better follow suit before it is forced to if we are to be a cohesive society, indeed if we are to remain a country at all.
Multiculturalism is leading us down a path of great divides with the Charter giving the rights to do so.
We are getting closer to situation critical.
Posted by: Liz J | 2006-12-10 6:16:00 AM
Steyn’s book talks about the demographics of Europe. Every 35 years the Islamic population doubles. Conversely because post-religious northern Europeans are not replacing themselves, every 35 years their segment of the population is cut in half. The prognosis is pretty clear that St Paul’s and Notre Dame will be mosques at some point.
Blair is halfway there in his thinking. He talks about assimilation and integration of immigrants into the UK but not enough emphasise on:
Assimilate to what?
There continues to be multi-culti forces that don’t want British values and institutions to be conserved. The BBC is run by utopians who want the West to fail and for the utopian death cult of Islamofascism to help the BBC’s groupthink cabal of quaisi-commies to carry on with their plans for Moe Strong transnationalism and world government.
Blair’s next step should be to privatize the tranzies at the BBC.
Bonus points for what Harper should do when he gets a majority?
Posted by: nomdenet | 2006-12-10 8:07:28 AM
Political correctness has allowed outright lying. Tell the truth and you will be taken before a human rights tribunal filled with self loathing liberals and you will lose. The mere fact that anyone in this country thought Turdeau had anything to offer with his destructive charter always mystified me, the man was a moron. Now his phoney charter is being used to bring in lieberal voters and a whole lot of non contributor trouble makers just like Britian. We will see the folly of this when it hits us, you will not learn it from the msm.
Posted by: bartinsky | 2006-12-10 8:23:08 AM
Multiculturalism seems to work in Calgary. At least for one side. The same guy who is taking the Western Standard before the human rights tribunal,for printing cartoons that the Herald wouldnt print, today has the Christmas message on the front page of the herald.
Stay tuned. I am sure Mohammed Elmasry is in line.
Posted by: MikeP | 2006-12-10 8:40:53 AM
It will take one more Federal election to determine which way Canada will go. Harper majority and we have a hope, otherwise prepare for serious problems. The real enemy as I have stated here many times before is within. My fight isn't with those that seek a better life, it's those that betray our way of life.
I for one have no intention of going quietly.
Posted by: Western Canadian | 2006-12-10 8:52:36 AM
The Meek (AKA The left)
Will inherit this earth
But they won't keep for very long.
They will know where they went wrong only at the moment some islamist is sawing off their head.
Check this out and hope to hell someone does something about these beasts soon. We must become ruthless or we will perish for certain within two generations.
Who was it that said we would go out with a whimper and not a bang? So far it's looking like that is the case.
Shame on us.
Posted by: Duke | 2006-12-10 10:34:29 AM
Yes Mark, it started long before Blair, however, he raised it to new heights. Assimilation will not work because the new nationalism is a trans-nationalism:
"A nation may be divided amongst several states. Such a nation is a multi state nation - or, more appropriately, a trans-state nation. The Tamils today are a trans-state nation and their 'coherence and unity' is growing and is directed to the establishment of an independent Tamil state. But that independent Tamil state will not constitute the whole Tamil nation. The people of Tamil Eelam constitute a part of the Tamil nation.
The Jews too are a trans-state nation which has successfully established Israel as a Jewish state. But the people of Israel do not constitute the whole Jewish nation - they are a part of it. The Jewish nation (and the Zionist movement) encompasses Jews living across the globe."
In other words, the diaspora is also the nation. The Tamils or Sikhs in Canada are just an extension of the desire for a nation-state and thus the sole purpose of the diaspora is to attain that goal. Thus we see the price for the support of the 45 Tamil Canadian delegates to the Liberal convention as a promise to delist the Tamil Tigers from Canada's list of terrorist organizations.
The price of Khalistani Sikh Canadian delegates was the white-wash of an inquiry into the 1985 Air-India bombing.
"When Mr. Rae slammed the terrorists responsible for Canada's worst act of terrorism, he found little support in the room. "He is referring to all Sikhs as terrorists," one delegate said to a B.C. senator campaigning for Mr. Rae. "Not true," the Senator said, but the delegate simply walked away."
Enoch Powell wrote:
"I turn to re-emigration. If all immigration ended tomorrow, the rate of growth of the immigrant and immigrant-descended population would be substantially reduced, but the prospective size of this element in the population would still leave the basic character of the national danger unaffected. This can only be tackled while a considerable proportion of the total still comprises persons who entered this country during the last ten years or so. Hence the urgency of implementing now the second element of the Conservative Party's policy: the encouragement of re-emigration. Nobody can make an estimate of the numbers which, with generous grants and assistance, would choose either to return to their countries of origin or to go to other countries anxious to receive the manpower and the skills they represent. Nobody knows, because no such policy has yet been attempted. I can only say that, even at present, immigrants in my own constituency from time to time come to me, asking if I can find them assistance to return home. If such a policy were adopted and pursued with the determination which the gravity of the alternative justifies, the resultant outflow could appreciably alter the prospects for the future.
It can be no part of any policy that existing family should be kept divided; but there are two directions in which families can be reunited, and if our former and present immigration laws have brought about the division of families, albeit voluntary or semi-voluntarily, we ought to be prepared to arrange for them to be reunited in their countries of origin. In short, suspension of immigration and encouragement of re-emigration hang together, logically and humanly, as two aspects of the same approach."
Posted by: DJ | 2006-12-10 12:02:22 PM
I know my first comment was too short and simple considering the situation, and I am glad to see some valid in-depth comments, especially those from been-around-the-block and nomdenet.
Indeed it will require much more than making a statement, because implementing a turn-around will require many major changes. The first however remains the scrapping of multiculturalism. While it is not a simple task, the Trudeau damage can be undone if there is a will. Along with this must come the complete destruction of all so-called human rights commissions. A much longer task is rescuing our educational system and courts from the Left. For far too long Canadian history has not been taught with the result that younger generations have no idea of the origins of our values, traditions and culture. In fact most have no idea of what our values, traditions and culture are, since they were brainwashed under the liberal myth - artificial flag, nation of peacekeepers and welfare, etc. As for our judicial activists judges, a government with the will can evoke the non-withstanding clause each and every time the court oversteps its mandated jurisdiction.
Of course this will mean, just as in the UK, a long and uphill battle with the Left who will stop at nothing to impose their agenda and obtain a one world government, hence their great love and devotion for the UN. Is it too late? I fear it is for Europe including the UK where the large majority have learned to hate their own culture, history and traditions. As for Canada and the US, things are not looking good in the overall picture either.
Posted by: Alain | 2006-12-10 1:20:08 PM
Spot on buddy!!! I must say though it was PM Howard of Australia that first told Islamists in particular that multiculturalism was kaput there. I hope Canada follows these leaders words with actions.
With men like Mark Steyn, the courage of the Western Standard, Ann Coulter(love or hate her), Robert Spencer (Jihad watch) SDA , with many more courageous journalists & commentators we may yet win.
I agree Europe is lost. I do think Causality with the butterfly effect, by these folks will achieve a bellwether effect in a more positive direction. This is a Quantum Universe & we no less than the weather, are subject too its whims.
In the very act of fighting for our civilization, the tumblers of time will open up another door.
Multiculturalism is dead. As is Socialist democracy. An oxymoron, on the scale of the leaning tower of Pizza.
It looks grim these day's, which means we must work double hard to get the reality hidden by special agenda groups, with there MSM dogs in tow. To the public square. Instead of the fall of Brittany Spears, we should be frightened of the fall of our individual rights or even life to madmen.
I am all for immigrants. Only those that believe in self reliance though. Haven’t we enough bums stamped Canadian made by the lefty liberals? To import even more dead beats? Lets pick the best of the lot, & those willing to become real North Americans. Not a subsidiary of there home cult, or political affiliation. Any group that tries to enforce there crap Nations laws on us should be booted out, pronto.
Any sane Nation would do the same. it’s a testament to Canadian patience we have allowed these rabble rousers for totalitarianism as much freedom to spew there hatred as we have. Their would be fair NO turn about that’s for sure. This applies to any one who would want to come here. If you do, start a new life, not pine for the old ways. Keep your culture privately, like us all. Is all we reasonably ask.
We will not tolerate the crimes against Women in some of these psudo-Countries. We allow freedom of religion, not from it or a one stop shop by force. Freedom of speech , not who can out shout or bully the other. A respect for personnel privacy. A rule of law based on Natural law, not a group of religious judges. The right to own property. The right to self defense. Choices by individuals, not options by collectivization.
These are just a few of the things we need to make understood.
Just my opinion.
Posted by: Revnant Dream | 2006-12-10 2:19:46 PM
I suggest we should consider the first step which should be to elect a majority conservative government. We should work very hard to get a majority next election.
I think comments are well thought. Now we need to take the initiative and build a serious an articulate organization to reclaim Canada for Canadians.
I think we should push very hard to make the necessary changes in our schools.
Posted by: Rémi Houle | 2006-12-10 3:50:49 PM
Despite the consensus here, Mark Steyn is a Euro-hating pro-miscegenation, pro-migrant monster, who offers nothing but empty platitudes and a desire to see Europeans diminished in their homelands. He believes that a million Zulus are as easily assimilated as a million Englishmen. Raising the birth rate matters little if white homelands are swamped with genetically distant migrants. Does Steyn advocate that Israel allow a million easily assimilated Zulus entry to the Jewish nation-state? Will the Chinese, an aging population with lower than replacement birth rates, allow a million easily assimilable Zulus to migrate to their homeland? Unlikely, considering the presence of a few Africans sleeping with Chinese girls instigated the riots at Nanjing and Tianamen Square.
It is doubtful Canada or the US can be saved for its founding European people because [especially outside Quebec] they - not just its elites - do not understand that it should be saved. Unlike Europe, there are no national parties. Canadians don't understand that whites as a whole have common interests that need to be defended. In particular, it is in the interests of whites that they remain an overwhelming majority of Canada's population. It is amazing that this assertion could even be controversial; yet, by openly saying Canada should remain an overwhelmingly white-majority country, it puts one outside the mainstream of Canadian "conservatism.".
The European homelands, our real redoubts, is where we shall make our stand.
Posted by: DJ | 2006-12-10 4:31:49 PM
I never heard that about Tiannemen square before. Got any links to substantiate that DJ ?
Posted by: MarkAlta | 2006-12-10 9:43:23 PM
Good to see Blair finally taking steps, albeit small ones, towards fixing this great problem confronting the Anglosphere. Australia's John Howard made a similar decision around a month ago when he rebuked extremist Islam, and decided that 'multiculturalism' will be removed from federal government policy. Hopefully, our governments are finally moving in the right direction. One hopes the Elder Dominion will follow suit.
Posted by: Alistair | 2006-12-11 5:15:24 AM
I can’t wait until we all look, think and act the same. Oh what a great day it will be when we’re all middle-class, middle-aged, white guys with a wife at home and 2 cars in the garage.
Posted by: drew | 2006-12-11 8:19:03 AM
Take a look out the window and look a little deeper...
I'm Greek by culture, Canadian by citizenship. My parents came over in the late 50's and landed at Pier 21. I was born here. But I love the culture I was born into, but it does NOT overtake my love of the Canadian society. I am able to speak (broken) Greek, but I communicate in English. I follow the laws of Canada, not Greece, nor do I expect that that I should be able to do that. My parents came over, kept their language, kept their culture alive, but worked like dogs to make their lives better than what they left. They didn't come over here to milk the system. They chose to contribute. And they made Canada a better place.
So before you go off on your "make life white" routine, grow up.
You can be proud of your culture and be proud of Canada at the same time. I love my culture, but would never want to be anywhere other than Canada.
Posted by: Mike The Greek | 2006-12-11 8:49:02 AM
Mike The Greek, you must be very proud of yourself. Get a life, you Greeks do nothing but sell donairs and then close up shop and collect unemployment insurance. The taxes I work for go to supporting your fat ass and the ten greasy kids you have since you have never heard of birth control (aside from anal sex). I find it hilarious when leeches like you try and pretend your one of us. Go make me a Gyro and give me a haircut.
Posted by: Jhonny | 2006-12-11 8:58:59 AM
I could never pretend I was someone like you... I couldn't ever get that stupid....
Posted by: Mike The Greek | 2006-12-11 9:13:04 AM
I'm still waiting for you to make Canada a better place and bring me that Gyro.
Posted by: Jhonny | 2006-12-11 9:33:32 AM
I too am a Canadian of Greek ancestry.
My grandfather had a restaurant and never once was unemployed. Didn't do gyros.
My father started a vending machine business back in the 30's and never spent one day unemployed.
I was a professional musician for many years and spent a lot of time unemployed, but didn't ever collect from government because I was self-employed and wouldn't have it any other way.
My grandfather had six children ... all hard workers. My father had three children ... I had none.
I have spent the last thirty years running a small business and occasionally employing help when I am busy. I am in a music related business (wind instruments) and I do a lot to help music students and to fund raise for the programs in schools.
All my relatives are hardworking and none have ever done welfare or even employment insurance.
None of us are druggies, alcoholics or have ever been in jail. Most have good jobs and participate in community.
And remember J phony ... Greek invented freedom and democracy.
You are a boor and a slut.
Posted by: Duke | 2006-12-11 11:16:47 AM
I sincerely hope you don't consider yourself one of us. If you really do and really are, through immigration or birth, we have to be concerned. How many more are in our midst?
The Greeks, Italians, Dutch and immigrants from other European countries have successfully integrated into our Country for centuries.
We have a different dynamic at play now with Multiculturalism combined with immigrants from countries with whom we have little or no history.
With our Multiculturalism backed up with Charter Rights we have a recipe for Balkanizing the country. Without a cohesive society, we have no country.
Posted by: Liz J | 2006-12-11 11:40:08 AM
"From December 1988 to January 1989, students in Nanjing, China waged violent protests against visiting African students. These protests became the precursor to the nationwide pro-democracy movement in the spring of 1989, which resulted in the massacre of Chinese students by armed troops in Tiananmen Square.
Although Chinese press commentaries admitted that the Chinese students attacked the African students, they also implied that "drunken and womanizing" Africans were prone to troublemaking. Moreover, contact between African men and Chinese women was the source of numerous clashes between Chinese and African students in the 1980s as well as the grounds for arrests and deportations of Africans."
Posted by: DJ | 2006-12-11 11:51:51 AM
Liz J is a very perceptive young woman.
Posted by: DJ | 2006-12-11 12:24:48 PM
Anthony bleedin’ Blair is driven by a single bent and twisted desire to replace the English people in their ancestral homeland.
As is Harper here if we have 1% immigration and our pop is not growing in 50 years the population will be replaced.
He is the instigator of a portending genocide unrivaled in the annals of English history.
not true the Romans, Saxons, Danes, Norwegians and Normans all did this to England. At least then they had the sense to sometimes fight. The Englishman of today is probably undescended from the folk that built Stonehenge.
Posted by: ghollingshead | 2006-12-11 2:39:29 PM
Maybe this is why blair spoke up,
1,000,000 racists in london who want to live with white people the bigots!
Posted by: ghollingshead | 2006-12-11 2:42:45 PM
Meanwhile in Pakistan, the radical Muslims hit the bricks protesting a new anti-rape law proposed by President Musharraf.
The prez figures it's too onerous for a woman to have four witnesses to prove that she's been raped.
And the bearded Muslims do not think it's right, apparently since Allah said it was OK to rape women, at least those who could not produce four witnesses.
Posted by: Set you free | 2006-12-11 3:07:15 PM
Was it Allah or Mohammed? We should keep it straight.
Posted by: dan | 2006-12-11 3:12:50 PM
There is one difference. All the groups you mention are of European origin and not that genetically different to the Britons/Celts that occupied Britain. Geoffrey of Monmouth wrote in his Historia Regum Britanniae, that Brutus, a descendant of the Trojan hero Aeneas, formed its first settlement.
Posted by: DJ | 2006-12-11 3:13:58 PM
Did Mohammed purport to be Allah's prophet or not?
If it can be found that he said it was OK to rape women as long as four witnesses were not found ... well, at least that's what those fine, upstandings examples of Qur'anic principle believe Mohammed said.
Posted by: Set you free | 2006-12-11 3:18:57 PM
Now I'm really confused. Are you talking about Dr. Mohammed who used to post here, or is there a different Mohammed?
Posted by: dan | 2006-12-11 3:31:24 PM
OK. If the name don't fit, you must acquit?
Posted by: Set you free | 2006-12-11 3:37:58 PM
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