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Wednesday, November 29, 2006

Oh groovy baby... yeah...

As I wrote here on Nov. 18, "...it's 1968 all over again..." and right on cue we had Richard Gwyn yesterday in the Toronto Star: Liberals could party like it's 1968.

Best of all, and most un-Canadian of all, it had sex--the generalized, "Peace and Love" sexiness of the 1960s. The flamboyant sexiness of all the mini-skirted hostesses of most of the candidates, Trudeau of course having the sexiest hostesses. And the sheer raw sex appeal of Trudeau himself, cool, ironic, mocking, detached and teasing Canadians into getting into a mania about him.

He was our way of carrying on the sophistication and spirit of Expo '67, and also our way of having our own John F. Kennedy.

Sex was un-Canadian in 1968? I did not know that.

Posted by Kevin Steel on November 29, 2006 in Canadian Politics | Permalink


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Posted by: maz2 | 2006-11-29 10:53:36 AM

Trudeau was no Kennedy. Kennedy stood up to the Soviets and won.

If anyone is to be compared to Trudeau, it is Augusto Pinochet.

Posted by: Zebulon Pike | 2006-11-29 11:01:31 AM

Zebulon Pike,

I think we know who Mr. Trudeau and the current incarnation of his party resemble most:

That other Communist dictator in Latin America who will not die and whose shadow has annoyed us for 40 years.

"Viva la revolucion" (barf).

Posted by: Ace | 2006-11-29 11:27:30 AM

Bargaining the pre-existing missile sites in Turkey away to prevent a tiny island like Cuba from having newly established Soviet missile sites was not a win, Zeb, it was a loss.
The U.S. Naval blockade was an Act of War but JFK didn't have the stones to do the right thing and pull the trigger.
Invading Cuba would have been a win.

Even Kennedy wasn't "Kennedy".

Posted by: Speller | 2006-11-29 11:34:52 AM

turdeau was an abysmal failure. his policies will monetarily haunt this country for a hundred years. if these moron lieberals want the past let them have it only them and the stupid likes of robert fife nonothing nash and their ilk thought this asshole turdeau was anything but a homely spoiled rich boy and as far as his iq, well if your walking off a cliff withe a 180 iq you will still hit just as hard as forrest gump.

Posted by: bartinsky | 2006-11-29 11:46:36 AM

Speller: if Trudeau was in Kennedy's place in 1962, there would be a large Soviet nuclear force in Cuba because he never would have stood up to them.

Kennedy stood up and found a solution that averted nuclear war. It was a win for all.

Ace: the Liebrals would take comparing Trudeau to Castro as a compliment; comparing him to Pinochet is more effective to excoriate the party. Like the Chilean dictator, Trudeau called out the army against his own people the FLQ "Crisis") and embarked on economic policies that harmed people (i.e. Albertans).

I suppose Castro could also be applied to the same criteria. Yet the Liebrals worship the man who sent 15% of his population into exile, and oppresses the remainder.

We should be grateful that Trudeau was not born in Europe. Given the circumstances of the 1930s, it is possible that he could have become a top Nazi, Fascist, Falangist, or Communist, who could have wreaked incalcuable damage to the human race. Imagine him at the Wannsee Conference! The man had no conscience, no morality, no quams about obeying any order from his corporate masters.

I was in Ontario when he died. Many were appalled when they say me cheering his death. My only regret was that he was not put on trial for his crimes.

Posted by: Zebulon Pike | 2006-11-29 12:22:18 PM

Baby Trudeau showed up last weekend in London (Ont.)
to stump for the Lib incumbent in the by-election.
The incumbent said to the gathering audience " we are in the presence of royalty".

And that, teenagers, shows the moral and intellectual depth of the members and supporters of the Liberal party.

Posted by: Ralph Rattfuc | 2006-11-29 12:33:41 PM

But the Liberals Won the London seat which should have gone Conservative if one factors in the phenomenon of "common sense" What the good burgers of London got was a 55 year old Fireman whose only skill in the House of Commons will be checking the fire extinguishers when he's awake. Unfortunately
as we expected down here on the Coast, the Greens
split the vote. In Atlantic Canada "Green" is just another name for the Socialist Horde, as illustrtaed in the Halifax Daily News today. MacLeod

Posted by: Jack MacLeod | 2006-11-29 1:37:57 PM

Yes Kennedy averted nuclear war by missile using a naval blockade. The USSR could have and may have given Cuba nuclear capable jet warplanes that could still devastate that portion of the U.S. that is only 90 miles off the coast.

Cuba has continued to be a threat in that way AND Kennedy showed the Turks that he backed down by removing those missiles. That is a lesson the Turks have not forgotten.

Cuba didn't get missiles and Kennedy lost his Turkish launch capability. Kennedy and the U.S. were LOSERS in that scenario. Kruschev forced them to remove those missiles, which were already in Turkey. One less response option for the U.S. at the time.

Kruschev would not have gone to war over the U.S. invasion of Cuba just the same as he didn't go to war over the U.S. naval blockade of Cuba.
The reason was NO Soviet aircraft carriers and very little Soviet ability to project naval power.

Posted by: Speller | 2006-11-29 1:38:13 PM

If there was not a war, I would laugh. But this is to handle with care.

How many Islamists in Canada obeying not our country but their masters in Iran and Pakistan and etc..? Easy to recognize: they wear funny garments.

If Trudeau had warned us of this threat, I would say he is better than his father. I do invite people to get together and build an organization maybe like vigilantes in order to be ready to take care of the 5th column already working in our country.

Posted by: Rémi Houle | 2006-11-29 1:38:31 PM

It seems to me in the year 2006,at least in the LPC,that honesty,integrity and atonement are considered un-Canadian.

Posted by: Canadian Observer | 2006-11-29 1:40:54 PM

Rémi Houle,
The "4th Estate" is the 5th column.
They can be recognized by their microphones, cameras, taperecorders, and presscards.

Posted by: Speller | 2006-11-29 1:51:42 PM

Geez, spare us any more Trudeaus, we're still dealing with the the old boy's legacy of Multiculturalism and Charter of Rights,on our way to ruin without some severe revisions.
Poor Justin has a bit of reality to face, growing up would be a start. However, if the Liberals thought he could help them win power on name alone he'd get the nod. It's all about winning, winning all the time, all else goes along on a wing and a prayer.
The new odd couple at the fiasco is the team of Ralphy and Bobby. If Bobby gets the crown, Ralphy gets to manage our money, in our worst nightmare.

About the only excitement Brisson could bring to the big Liberal love-in is if he shows up in Pink skivvies, they may need a bit of entertainment, this is a tough exercise. Choosing the best snake oil salesman requires a lot of concentration.

Posted by: Liz J | 2006-11-29 1:53:22 PM

If the Liberal Party had been thinking,they would have held their convention in western Canada.It would have been smart politics.Non?

Posted by: Simon | 2006-11-29 3:33:20 PM

My guess is that the LPC is more worried about achieving a resurrection and being born again than seeking converts.

Posted by: Speller | 2006-11-29 3:38:33 PM

Trudeau may have discovered sex in 1968 but apparently he didn't know what to make of it.


Trudeau discovered sex in 1968 and by 1980 discovered that you can also do it with women.


Trudeau discovered sex in 1968 and proceeded to screw the entire country.

Posted by: Duke | 2006-11-29 5:20:47 PM

The Liberal Party of Canada are converts ... to Islam.

Posted by: Duke | 2006-11-29 5:22:49 PM


As far as merging the realms of church and state ... marxists and jihadists are one and the same.

Liberals, of course, are statist, not classic liberals who believe in inherent freedom of individuals.

Posted by: Set you free | 2006-11-29 5:45:03 PM

"Trudeau of course having the sexiest hostesses"

Of course he would have, how else could he hide his proclivities?

Margret must have left him because he overdid that "sheer raw sex appeal, cool, ironic, mocking, detached and teasing" act. Heaven forbid it was for something the government had "No place in the Nations bedrooms" for.

Posted by: Speller | 2006-11-29 6:01:17 PM

JFK is to Trudeau as

Ted Kennedy is to ... ?

Posted by: h2o273kk9 | 2006-11-29 7:01:50 PM

Well, now that we have been talking about Trudeau's promiscuity and we had another thread about the marriage vote coming up, I would like to ask Shotgunners a question. I was once told by a friend whom I trusted as honest that "he was told on good authority the reason Margaret wanted out of the marriage was not because of all the other women in her bed, it was because of all the men in her bed."

Now, I understand that Trudeau was the type of person that that statement would be believable, but I was wondering if any of the rest of you had heard something similar. In effect, I am looking for a second source for verification purposes.

Posted by: Brent Weston | 2006-11-29 8:21:11 PM


If you look at things from the Leftist POV, no reasonable arguments can ever be made.

The bottom line is the Libs believe Pinochet = Harper. They even made a campaign ad about it - (soldiers...in our cities). ;)

Posted by: Ace | 2006-11-29 11:35:41 PM

Ace: the irony is that Trudeau actually did put soldiers into the cities - during the fake FLQ "Crisis".

Posted by: Zebulon Pike | 2006-11-30 12:49:46 AM

Trudeau never believed in having an army but he was definitely happy to call on it when he was scared shitless for his own safety as much as the Country's.
How far have we really evolved from the October "Crisis"? We have given the Separatists even more clout. We are paying them to flaunt their mission by sitting in the government and press on with traitorous ambitions.

Never would that happen in the US, it's ONE COUNTRY INDIVISIBLE, which is what we should be declared and fast.

Posted by: Liz J | 2006-11-30 6:38:40 AM

So who else is going to scream if they hear that cliche about Trudeau and (Christ) Expo '67 again?

Posted by: Geoff Warren | 2006-11-30 8:37:16 AM

There was no sex prior to '68, and no individual rights prior to the Charter. It's all right there in the Red Book.

Posted by: Joan Tintor | 2006-11-30 9:29:21 AM

The Red Book we can forget about, it's all about Paris Stronach and the Pink Book she's toting around of late.
I sort of bought the phrase "We've come a long way Baby". Apparently not far enough, according to the newly raven tressed Paris turned Rona wannabe.

Did anyone get a peek at Brisson holding up the Liberal Panties? Very trendy too, not your regular old ladies bloomers.

Posted by: Liz J | 2006-11-30 9:46:56 AM

Forgot to add those panties are G-String. To emphasize the Great divide in the Party??
Keep your eyes out for anyone walking funny!!

Posted by: Liz J | 2006-11-30 10:12:56 AM

With Trudeau's wealth he could get laid anytime he wanted.

Known for his flamboyance, he dated celebrities, sometimes wore sandals or a buckskin jacket in the House of Commons, was accused of using an obscenity during debate there, and once did a pirouette behind the back of Queen Elizabeth II.(From Wikipedia)


Pirouettes are VERY effeminate. What a girly-boy Trudeau was.

Posted by: Speller | 2006-11-30 2:16:48 PM

I didn't say that Trudeau bought whores, other than his supporters I mean, it's a fact that many people, especially woman, find wealth sexy.

Most people who find wealth appealing are lower on the intimacy scale.

By the way, if you clicked the above pirouette link, the teacher writes that to do one takes practice, practice, practice!

Posted by: Speller | 2006-11-30 2:33:29 PM


There was indeed a lot of circumstantial evidence that Trudeau was bisexual. There is even more than what you mentioned and I doubt you intended your list to be exhaustive. I was looking for something as authoritative as what my friend gave me. Although he would not give me a name, he suggested his source had verbal contact with Margaret herself. My friend also made it clear that he had never met Margaret.

However, consider this:
This is one definition of a Lavendar Marriage:

and then consider this:


And then from this homosexual site:

they state "Not all Lavender Lives are gay or lesbian. We have many friends who have been instrumental in helping us along the road to freedom. One of them was Pierre Elliott Trudeau."

Now here are my questions:
1) Why is Trudeau referred to as a Lavendar by this site?
2) When they say he was not "gay or lesbian", do they mean he was "straight" or do they mean he was "bi-sexual"?

This is by no means conclusive, but it does add to what my friend told me several years ago....

Posted by: Brent Weston | 2006-11-30 3:14:03 PM

Maybe Trudeau was a hermaphrodite.
Only his hair dresser knows for sure. He was very aloof.

"ironic, mocking, detached and teasing" etc. gag snrt

Posted by: Speller | 2006-11-30 3:25:09 PM

Let's not stoop to discussing Trudeau's sexuality. It's irrelevant and very unkind. Public figures may be fair game on many issues but this one is counterproductive to any kind of fairness.
We should be above such stuff as Conservatives.
He has two sons still alive and their lives may not have been a picnic. Justin and his brother are showing some evidence of a broken home.
Sometimes growing up takes a little longer.

Posted by: Liz J | 2006-11-30 3:27:11 PM

1968 - "The flamboyant sexiness of all the miniskirted hostesses..."

2006 - http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20061129.wlibspic1129/PhotoGallery01?slot=9

Hope Mr. Gwyn is enjoying himself.

Posted by: Kevin Steel | 2006-11-30 3:46:06 PM

I'm not sorry, Liz J.

The Trudeau spawn are getting mileage out of Dear Old Dad's rep and so are Ole' Fuddle Duddle's philosophical heirs.

A pox on ALL of them.

Posted by: Speller | 2006-11-30 3:47:11 PM

Thanks for the picture, Kevin.

The mental image will set my sex urge back for weeks. Free Willy.

Posted by: Speller | 2006-11-30 3:50:20 PM


Fair enough. No one else added anything to my request. I will leave it the way I entered - still wondering....

Posted by: Brent Weston | 2006-11-30 4:35:52 PM

We may learn more when the late Barbara Streisand's biography comes out or, perhaps, the late Margaret Sinclair Trudeau Kemper's biography if it is ever written.

What is really important, though, is making sure the bloom falls off the rose for Trudeau.
Then scraping the fallen blossoms, leaves, and stem to the bottom of the compost heap where they belong.

As an Albertan who had just entered the workforce when the NEP hit, I will only remember the thorns.

And remember, Albertan's VOTE for Ted Morton!
It'll make P.E.T. spin like a Dremel in the old family crypt.

Posted by: Speller | 2006-11-30 5:10:00 PM

Chicks dig fame and wealth, but they also like good looks, something Commissar Trudeau was never blessed with.

The black thong suits the Lib's, it's unisex, fits male and female and makes for unfettered rear access.

They should provide one to all their loyal supporters, because if they get re-elected everyone will be taking it up the rear again.

Luckily I am from Alberta, if these clowns even get a sniff of power "good ole Toronna" will see nothing but taillights.

Posted by: deepblue | 2006-12-01 7:45:26 AM

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