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Wednesday, November 22, 2006

Iranian regime denounces Canada for rights violations

The Third Committee of the UN General Assembly on Tuesday passed a resolution sponsored by Canada condemning human rights violations in Islamic Iran. And Islamic regime, in return, denounces Canada for human rights violations. Iranian regime has hit back by drafting a resolution accusing Canada of mistreating its aboriginals and immigrants to Canada.

What the hell?

The funny thing is that thousands of Iranians flee their ruined country and come to Canada as either refugees or immigrants. I bet the regime has gone blind to see that its own citizens are escaping the country in masses. Iranian regime's official figures state that around 150,000 people leave Iran every year on political or social grounds. Brain drain has become a major problem since the Islamic regime seized power in 1979 and scores of Iranians just don't want to live in that land any more and they resort to any means to get out.

So please cut the crap, Iran. All of us know what is really going on there. 

Posted by Winston on November 22, 2006 in International Affairs | Permalink


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harper just lost his mind

Posted by: woodbridge | 2006-11-22 2:21:48 PM

People, please, save your anger for the Iranian government!

Posted by: Cory Schreyer | 2006-11-22 2:50:30 PM

Immigrunts get more money and welfare upon arrival than our retired seniors who already paid the freight for the rest of us.

The Indians get about 12 billion a year plus major privileges in Canada based of race.

I'd say it's tail wagging the dog here.

But what do expect from a pig but a grunt.

Posted by: Duke | 2006-11-22 3:02:33 PM

"funier" another typo? goofy gander.

Posted by: Stuck in Loganville | 2006-11-22 3:47:57 PM

The Iranians can go screw themselves. Who really gives a flying fuck what they think?

Posted by: Ralph Rattfuc | 2006-11-22 3:49:08 PM

In the past 60 years:

How many people headed from West Germany to East Germany.
How many people headed from South Korea to North Korea.
How many people headed from South Vietnam to North Vietnam.
And today how many people are beating down the doors to get into Iran??????

The world has become a very stupid place indeed with the likes of Iran, North Korea, Venezula, Zimbabwe and many other out of control tin-pot dictator run countries. Most of their sane and educated folks want to come to places in the west.....but no one is going the other way!!!!!

Posted by: Norm | 2006-11-22 4:12:03 PM

No free speech? What are you afraid of?

Posted by: Mark Logan | 2006-11-22 4:52:25 PM

Stuck in Loganville,

Looks like my typo is gone. As is my whole post. Censorship wins again.

Posted by: Mark Logan | 2006-11-22 4:53:47 PM

Gee, that's too bad.
I'm always hungrily awaiting your newest wise and positive pronouncement on the topic, Mark L.

We've clearly lost another gem.
First the Bamiyan Buddas, now this. tch, tch.

Posted by: Speller | 2006-11-22 5:02:16 PM

Well, Speller, at least we know that when the WS stands up for free speech, they are lying.

Posted by: Mark Logan | 2006-11-22 5:08:17 PM

Hey, Mark L, you can quit any time you care to.

I, personally, have had a comment deleted.
Except when they deleted my comment they banned my IP too.

This happened when I lost my temper with a Leftie cyberstalker.
From where I stand, you appear to be stalking Winston. Maybe Snowrunner will play a violin for you. I noticed he likes to stalk Winston too.

Don't expect any sympathy from me. This is a private blog.

Posted by: Speller | 2006-11-22 5:16:02 PM

So criticizing Winston is not allowed? Is he too sensitive to be able to take criticism? People that sensitive really don't belong online.

Posted by: Mark Logan | 2006-11-22 5:17:45 PM

Why criticise, Winston? That's all you ever seem to do.

Why don't you contribute by taking issue with the points he has made point by point if you disagree with his assertions?

"People that sensitive really don't belong online."
Posted by: Mark Logan | 22-Nov-06 5:17:45 PM

That isn't your call is it? You don't have the juice. If Ezra thinks Winston's got Iran covered then it's his call, not yours, Mark Logan.

Posted by: Speller | 2006-11-22 5:26:10 PM

I did disagree with his assertions, but they got deleted. Check my posts in other threads and you will see a lot of discussion of issues. The WS is pro-censorship and pretends otherwise.

Posted by: Mark Logan | 2006-11-22 5:37:20 PM

ML- free speech is not a given right..it may be your up-bringing that makes you think you can express yourself without any limitations. You've just been taught a lesson which the rest of us learned years ago. Its called decency and pride. We dispose of our garbage.
Obviously you never have, Now you know where your typo went. The mystery is solved.

Posted by: Frico | 2006-11-22 5:50:53 PM

Okay, for the benefit of those of us who came in late, wtf did Mark Logan say?

Posted by: Greg R | 2006-11-22 5:54:51 PM

Mark Logan,
Now that is a false assertion at 5:37 PM. I have repeatedly argued in e-mails with the moderator, who will be un-named, where I complained about foul-mouthed Leftie trolls and spambots, suggesting bannings for multiple nic trolls and intellectually dishonest posters and been told,
"No we won't ban them or start a registration system because we don't want an echo chamber here at the Shotgun and these people spice things up and sharpen the thinking of Lib/Con bloggers" "All are Welcome".

Of course there are limits, as any child knows, are you testing those limits?
If you are that would be abusing the WS' hospitality.

Posted by: Speller | 2006-11-22 5:57:28 PM

Greg R. "what did Mark Logan say?"

- nothing worth repeating.

Posted by: Lost in Loganville | 2006-11-22 6:05:52 PM

The person complaining about censorship should censor himself so there would not be any necessity to do it for the editor.

Evey time this person post some information on this thread, there is a bell in my mind ringing troll alert.
Anyone else with this phenomenon or is it just me?

The Iranian reaction is a perfect example of the Islamofacist evil ideology using lies, deception, hatred, murder.

I just heard Brigitte Gabriel in an interview telling how the Palestinians recruit suicide candidates among women.

They go rape a girl. Then they go and tell her: since there is no witness, your family is going to kill you because of honnor killing. You are going to die. So why not be a hero and die as a suicide bomber. Anyway you are going to die, better die with honnor.

I'm sick and tired of the mad mullahs. When are we going to do something really efficient about them? I don't know hom many Iranians support this regime. I suggest CIA should find out. If they come up with a high figure, why not consider the solution used with Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

If 2 millions people die, that will still be better than 200 millions. Please read and study history. Try to see Adolf Hitler hiding in the Iran nutjob (his name I cannot remember, it is a horror anyway). Try to picture Adolf the Iranian nutjob with nuclear weapons.

How many millions of dead because Hitler was not seriously held? 100 millions? Do you think that in 1935 if you would have been sitting in a parisian café and someone tell you: do you know that Adolf Hitler can kill 100 million people? What would have been your answer?

Posted by: Rémi Houle | 2006-11-22 6:34:15 PM

Winston wrote: So please cut the crap, Iran. All of us know what is really going on there.

“All of us”? I don’t particularly care what goes on there. You reap what you sow. 30 years ago you’d be wearing a mask and shouting "down with the Shah and the savak". Now it’s the mullahs………………

Posted by: No Spin Zone | 2006-11-22 7:09:50 PM

I like that saying, you reap what you sow. It comes from the Gospel.

So Islamofacism will reap what they sow. I hope.

16 men with 1 million dollars could cause all that damage and more than 3000 deaths.

How about getting organized? Let's take Israel as an example. Such a small country but efficient.

We should ask Israelis how we can get together to eradicate Islamofacism. I think it is past time to really go on to the offensive whatever that means. 1000 men really well trained and well equipped can be a formidable force. See what Israel did in 1967.

Posted by: Rémi Houle | 2006-11-22 7:49:04 PM

Winston wrote: So please cut the crap, Iran. All of us know what is really going on there.

“All of us”?
"I don’t particularly care what goes on there. You reap what you sow. 30 years ago you’d be wearing a mask and shouting "down with the Shah and the savak". Now it’s the mullahs………………"
Posted by: No Spin Zone | 22-Nov-06 7:09:50 PM

I'm sure Winston, having been an actual Iranian soldier, can tell us what he and his aquaintances thought and shouted. Your knowledge, NSZ, is based on what?

Posted by: Speller | 2006-11-22 8:01:09 PM

Ralph Rattfuc,

I just love it when you talk like that.

You remind me of John Wayne, made contemporary.

I see you as the young cowboy, living the western ideals, totting colt 45, and wasting no time on Brokeback Mountain. Your response is fearless, and the stuff of soldiers, that scream, gimme that sand, and "we'll clean the nozzle, so squeaky clean, not even the worst sand storm on the planet, could stop us! We'll climb whatever mountains are in our way, and forge whatever streams or rapids that may be."

Where IS my cold water. I must splash my face, and powder my nose....

But don't ever say, "Don't worry your little mind, missy, we'll take care of them there terrorists for yah! I'll say I am no May West, so move over Mister, ladies first,...now where's that pal Trigger, saddle and bridle..., let's go ladies!"

Posted by: Lady | 2006-11-22 8:28:51 PM

The last refuge of the censor is silence. By not repeating what I wrote and by deleting it twice they leave the impression that what I said must have been beyond the bounds of all human decency. No, I did not pull a "Kramer". I wrote nothing more inflammatory than the cartoons of Muhammed were, which the WS defends to the death (NB: Some speech they like, some they don't. That is their line on "free speech"). I compared Winston to a fictional animal who is lovable but not very intelligent. I did so because I think he is naive to be surprised by Iran's response to Canada and naive to think that a different approach than the Liberals had on the Kazemi case would have been more productive. But apparently such opinions are not to be tolerated in the censored world of the WS. My comments were no more insulting that a lot of what is posted on the Shotgun daily by people like Duke - it's just that because he aims at people not making posts here and I aim at people who do, I get censored and he does not.

The WS is a hypocritical zone. Free speech, like Muhammed cartoons is defended in principle, but speech that is not nice to the WS cronies is deleted. Shame on you, Ezra. You don't practice what you preach. Not that anyone should be surprised....

Posted by: Mark Logan | 2006-11-22 9:03:50 PM

Anybody got a crying towel for Mark. He needs one.

Posted by: Mike_RoA | 2006-11-22 9:32:26 PM

Mark Logan,
Boo freakin' whoo. Your profound comparisons between Iran and Canada were what again?

You were championing Iran and slagging Canada again how?

Your goal in it was what?

Just a vehicle to poke Winston in the eye, that's what.

Winston said ENOUGH.
YAY Winston!!!
Go ahead write some more, Mark Logan, but I gotta say I feel embarassed just reading your puling.
It's like watching some Mujahideen with soiled panties on his head.

Posted by: Speller | 2006-11-22 9:56:14 PM

Not crying, Mike. Just noting that The WS lies. They say they are for free speech, and they delete posts they don't like. Anyone who trusts them to be truthful is a fool.

Posted by: Mark Logan | 2006-11-22 9:57:06 PM


"You were championing Iran"

Nope. If you read the deleted post, you would have seen that I pointed out that Iran are playing a childish game and nothing more should be expected of them. I criticized "Winston" for seeming to expect more and seeming to expect that Canadian diplomacy, if done in the way he thinks is right, could get resulsts from them. We can't because they are fundamentally unreasonable.

Posted by: Mark Logan | 2006-11-22 9:59:25 PM

Well there you go, Mark Logan.
That is a good post. I happen to agree with you.
I always thought Winston was working against the real solution by constantly pretending there was going to be a counter-revolution in Iran.

Ain't going to happen. As a matter of fact all those people he mentions above who are voting with their feet should be staying and putting Winston's counter-revolution in motion.

But again Prime Minister Harper is a good man for drawing attention to where the line should be drawn, so to speak. A journey of a thousand miles begins with one step.

Posted by: Speller | 2006-11-22 10:14:17 PM

Remi, you are one sick puppy!

Posted by: Zog | 2006-11-22 11:10:27 PM

Some people are still looking the other way or having their head in the sand.


There is a monster out there. Looking the other way will not help. Pierre Gemayel, a young and gifted politician who chose to defend his people has been cowardly murdered 2 days ago in Lebanon.

Please let's stand up and get on the offensive so he did not die in vain. It is past time to stop trying to appease like in Irak and Afghanistan. That's useless. The monster, Islamofacism has to be destroyed.

Posted by: Rémi Houle | 2006-11-23 9:21:34 AM

Gee Lady, I do believe that was a compliment. First one all week. No,no cowpoke here, although I wanted to be one about 55 years ago. Not a westerner either.Living in the People's Democratic Republic of Ontario. And no again, I do not treat women in condescending fashion. You can ask my wife about that.She kicked me out of the living-room last night because I started ranting about some leftie on the news. She meant it, too. That's when I come here and post comments. he..he..he..
By the way, my original comments stands. Who cares what the Iranians think!

Posted by: Ralph Rattfuc | 2006-11-23 10:00:31 AM

Mark L

I think you are a little confused over your 'freedom-of-speech' rights here. You are quite free to walk out your front door and shout-out anything you want to, but this is indeed a privately owned blog so you are at the mercy of the owner.

No shirt no shoes, no service.....

Posted by: missing link | 2006-11-23 11:12:28 AM

Missing Link,

The WS blogging team all complained when private companies refused to print the Muhammed cartoons. They also complained when private companies refused to sell publications that contined these cartoons. They called it censorship. Now they have to choose: Either they meant that, in which case they should not be censoring comments they don't like here, or they don't mean it, in which case they are free to cut what they like. I only ask for consistency. If Ezra want's to post saying he has changed his mind and thinks it is ok for publishers and stores to censor, then I have no basis for complaint. But until then, the WS is being disingenuous when they protest what they call censorship, because they do it too.

[Note to Loganville: I left a typo in this comment on purpose for you to find. Can you see it?]

Posted by: Mark Logan | 2006-11-23 12:37:19 PM

The troll Mark Logan is still here.
I would have banned him by now.

That he continues to write here with his whining and puling demonstrates the respect the WS moderators have for free speech and the hollowness of the trolls argument.

If I held an open house Christmas Party saying all were welcome and an abuser like him came over and abused my hospitality by urinating on my rug I know the attendees who came in good faith would understand if I turfed him out on his morally deaf ear.

Posted by: Speller | 2006-11-23 12:49:28 PM

"Just noting that The WS lies. They say they are for free speech, and they delete posts they don't like. Anyone who trusts them to be truthful is a fool."

So tell me. Which publications do you trust to be truthful...given your criterion?

Posted by: h2o273kk9 | 2006-11-23 4:51:21 PM

"Just noting that The WS lies. They say they are for free speech, and they delete posts they don't like. Anyone who trusts them to be truthful is a fool."

So tell me. Which publications do you trust to be truthful...given your criterion?

Posted by: h2o273kk9 | 2006-11-23 4:51:22 PM

How about this organization? How's their record on free speech?


"After spending 23 years on the ACLU board, the “defenders of free speech” issued gag orders to him, not to speak about the issue. Now thats free speech for you."

Posted by: h2o273kk9 | 2006-11-23 4:57:36 PM

so does this mean iran is going to send jack layton to talk to us

Posted by: john a. | 2006-11-23 6:47:48 PM

I have a suggestion. Did you know the gloat and wail has a comment section? I succeeded once in a while to get one posted. Since a couple of weeks, I must have posted almost 100. Do you know how many I got posted? Two or three!

I don't use any dirty words or insults.

I wish the National Post had a comment section.

Posted by: Rémi Houle | 2006-11-23 8:19:26 PM

Hezbollah is Iran's proxy; Coderre-Ignatieff is Hezbollah's proxy in the Liberal leadership "race".

Dion organizers join Ignatieff’s camp

[Last paragraph:]

“Ignatieff organizer and Liberal MP Denis Coderre (Bourassa) said there are “dozens” more officials who will announce they are switching allegiances in the coming days.” (TO Star)

Coderre marched in support of Hezbollah, Muslim Islamist terrorists.

Hezbollah’s aim/goal, stated/given publicly, is the extermination of Israel/ the Jews. Ignatieff said that Israel is a war criminal. These words from Ignatieff gives implicit approval to Hezbollah’s aim/goal.

Coderre is the eminence grise behind Ignatieff, the Harvard intellectual. Ignatieff has sold his soul to Coderre-Hezbollah.

Ignatieff is a prime example of the Treason of the Intellectuals. …-

Posted by: maz2 | 2006-11-24 7:47:35 AM

Ralph Rattfuc,

Actually, if you read it again, you'll see I did not object to your position.

But, I must say something else. Yes, we do not care what the terrorists in Iran think. Truth is, however, they are incapable of thinking. Just plotting incredibly ugliness.

Check out this link. It is connected to one incredible video, on the terrorists, and a large portion on the Iranian terrorists.


Posted by: Lady | 2006-11-24 11:02:02 AM

Like I have the horrible feeling, that the only way we will rid the world of the idiot, who rules Iran, is a nuke in the middle of Tehran.He is a serious danger to the whole world and especially to us and Israel, because as Ben Netanyaiou has said, "these people are suicidal, and don't care if they live or not". Why are we sitting on our thumbs and not doing anything about them????

Posted by: Freedom of speech | 2006-11-26 1:20:37 PM

Hi I found this quite by accident. I would like to know why you think the americans are interested in Iraq? (for the oil of course). If the US thinks the iraqs are going to quit or give in they better think again as these people are not humanitarian they are just stubborn and the US will never win! all we will do is have the US and Canadian soldiers killed until someone stops and it will have to be the US as Iraq in my estimation will never give up. Yes we have a lot of immigrants to Canada but the person who wrote Canadians do not move to their country is correct. I just don't understand why we have so many immigrating here or why we allow this to happen. I agree with the Iraq on one thing Canada was not nice to the metis or the natives when John a Macdonald was in power as he wanted to unify Canada into one country which was good but look at what happened to Louis Riel and others who stood in the way. Now we have to give to the natives free education, free housing, no taxes for them yet they still complain. I guess they do not like living on a reserve would you???

Posted by: laura | 2006-12-13 10:13:09 PM

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