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Friday, July 28, 2006

UN and Hezbollah

Here's an interesting story about the bizarre interaction between Hezbollah and the UN. And here's a photo that shows how Hezbollah often co-locates with the UN. It's partly because the UN posts often choose the high ground -- perfect for observing, or directing rocket-fire. But it's also to use the UN as human shields.

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Posted by Ezra Levant on July 28, 2006 | Permalink

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Maybe you two should go to counselling together ? Just kidding, don't get all riled up, eh ?

Posted by: MarkAlta | 2006-07-29 4:46:22 AM


Ian,
Good morning,

"Snort. I wish I could say the same about you, h20, but indeed, I just shared some reali fantasies with someone I know.. and then felt more energetic after doing so."

As you weren't clear here, I am only guessing or "projecting" that you mean you were having intimate relations with someone. Perhaps your roommate even. Personally, I fall asleep afterwards so I commend you on your vigour. I will just keep to myself the reasons I think you felt compelled to provide this opportunity for me to "fantasize" about.

Oh, BTW, a "real fantasy" seems to be a bit of an oxymoron, n'est-ce pas?

Anyway, perhaps again your are right. What you say about me making it up in my mind are correct. How can you tell? Is that projecting your fantasies of what you think I am saying?

It's hard to take some things at face value, though. Example, out of the blue, you ask whether I am blonde. Was this or was it not intended as an attempt to insult?

You said:
"You imagine bigotry and lashing out? No. I was curious. See, I'm blonde myself."

and

"Attack? I'm blonde myself. I was curious if you were.
You imagine I was "attacking" blonde folks?"

Without knowing my gender, race, ethnicity, faith, citizenship, or even geography, you asked the question. For absolutely no reason other than you were curious. Sorry, your explanation still sounds disingenuous.

That's the problem I have with you.

You said:
"There's a difference though. You have never observed my actions, or are privy to anyone's description of my actions. You'd be a fool to not consider all information that is available to you."

But I have considered all the information available to me. These posts are all I have about you. Not much to go on t'is true. Just like I'm sure you have considered all the information available to you regarding Israeli intentions. However, in both cases, neither of us is privy to all information that is available as we just don't have that kind of access.

So we come full circle. Faramir called the accusation an "ancient lie". As we don't have full access to information regarding his knowledge, perhaps he was at Israeli HQ when the attack took place. I ask again, why did you feel the need to have him call the crew liars? Isn't it true you were reading his mind?

There is nothing wrong with that. Sometimes, we don't have much to go on and we make judgements regarding people's motivations. I certainly am and it's obvious that I admit it. Experience tells me that nations and people do lie. Sometimes they are just mistaken. I don't have to take what you say at face value especially when observations suggest otherwise.

Am I blonde? You were just curious. Sure, you were.

Posted by: h2o273kk9 | 2006-07-29 8:08:27 AM


h2o and Ian Scott: You need to take your arguments off this blog and slug it out via your own e-mails.

You've hijacked this thread. Good job.

Posted by: new kid on the block | 2006-07-29 8:40:11 AM


Looks like Harper's gigantic fuckup / pro-Israel stance is going over rather poorly with the Canadian people: if this costs him a majority (very likely) or causes him to lose the next election (growing less unlikely by the day) either Harper goes or whichever group of losers is pushing him towards a pro-Israel stance needs to be bootfucked out of the Conservative Party of Canada.

Seriously, Joe Clark couldn't fuck up an imminent majority government and 6 months of near flawless governing this badly. Harper will make Clark look like a strategic genius in comparison if he doesn't dummy up fast. From the Globe:

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"The offices of some Conservative MPs have been inundated, first as Prime Minister Stephen Harper termed Israel's attack on Lebanon a "measured response," then as he refused to condemn Israel -- and suggested UN culpability -- in the presumed death of a Canadian peacekeeper.

"It's definitely generated the most calls since I've been in office, since Jan. 23," Mike Wallace, the MP for Burlington in Southern Ontario, said yesterday. "Obviously those who are calling and e-mailing have been fairly passionate about the issue."
...
Those who are pleased to hear Mr. Harper defend Israel have been short and to the point, he said. "The people who think we're making a mistake in taking a stand are a lot more aggressive."

The full effect of the crisis on the popularity of the Harper government has yet to be determined.

But it is unlikely to have positive effects in Quebec, where there is a large Lebanese community and where there is a family who has lost eight members to an Israeli bomb.
...
That sentiment is less likely to run through Canada's other large cities, however. In Toronto, where the Conservatives have no MPs, some of the party's organizers are shaking their heads.

"The Jewish community is very staunchly in favour of the party's position. The Muslim community is not so happy," one very active member said. "And there's more of them than there are Jewish people. So in terms of a vote-getting thing, if he is doing it for that reason, I don't get it. It makes no sense to me."
...
"He is in a very, very tough spot," Dr. Gerolymatos said of the Prime Minister. "In the polls that I've seen, half the Canadians support [his stand] and half oppose it. If he's not careful, he may end up losing a lot of votes because you have to remember there's a lot of Lebanese Canadians in Canada, there's a lot of Muslim Canadians, who are going to see his actions as being strictly one sided."

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20060728.wxmideharper28/BNStory/National/home

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Ethnic cleanising, war crimes, targetting innocent civillians and red cross ambulances and Canadian UN observers; these are not Canadian values, and never will be. There is no basis whatsoever for Canada to align itself with a radical human rights violating theocracy like Israel, and any party that attempts to do so will not only lose the next election, they will be humiliated.

Posted by: LeafBeliever | 2006-07-29 9:29:33 AM


Leaf Believer, thanks for the informative post, compared to much of the other drivel posted here. Being an Albertan I have some friends who read the Western Standard and I sometimes check out this blog to see what sorts of new Islamaphobic or racist remarks are targetted at me for the sole reason of being born Muslim.

This site has fallen to new lows. Its worse then the stuff I read on the inside of bathroom stalls. No, I dont support terrorism or want to conquer Canada and restart the Sulatante and yes I am a religous Muslim who believes in plurity and respect for human rights. I agree that this site needs a moderator, but given that the managers are just trying to keep the magazine from going bankrupt as the western report did, i doubt that will happen. So guess I will keep coming back to read about how much of a crazy blood thirsty terrorist I must be whom will never be able to integrate into Candian society, even though I was born here, hehe.

Posted by: MuslimCanadian | 2006-07-29 9:54:39 AM


Leaf Believer

hmm, so you think Muslim countries share common values with Canada? please elaborate.

If Israel has been performing ethnic cleansing than why are there more Arabs there now than at Israel's independence in 1948? Do you know that in Israel Arabs/Muslims vote, are members of parliament, have equal rights before the law, have freedom of religious practice? Is this what you call ethnic cleansing? Please point to any Arab/Muslim country which provide these rights to Jews.

So you think Israel is a "radical human rights violating theocracy"? Wow what does that make Iran? You think Israel is run by rabbis who deny human rights to non-Jews?

Would you rather have Israel as an ally or Iran, or Saudi Arabia, or Malaysia, or Egypt, or Libya etc etc.?

Would you rather be allied with the United States and Australia or the French?

Posted by: ex-liberal | 2006-07-29 12:20:00 PM


Jihad .... making the world safe for Muslims.

Posted by: Set you free | 2006-07-29 12:56:27 PM


ex-liberalwrote: If Israel has been performing ethnic cleansing than why are there more Arabs there now than at Israel's independence in 1948?

And why are there less / no Jews in all Arab countries?

Do you know that in Israel Arabs/Muslims vote, are members of parliament, have equal rights before the law, have freedom of religious practice? Is this what you call ethnic cleansing? Please point to any Arab/Muslim country which provide these rights to Jews.

Maybe Turkey. Maybe.

So you think Israel is a "radical human rights violating theocracy"? Wow what does that make Iran?

Or Saudia Arabia where it is illegal for a Saudi citizen to be anything other than a muslim.

Posted by: No Spin Zone | 2006-07-29 1:03:10 PM


What are you talking about, LeafBeliever: what? marijuana leaves--or are you a hockey fan?

Whatever. If the MSM is saying that the Canadian public is responding "rather poorly" to PMSH's pro-Israel stance, don't believe them. They've got a vendetta against Prime Minister Harper and they're carrying big guns. They're toy guns, though, and though the MSM shoots a good line--well, sorta, in a manner of speaking--they're full of hot air. They're windbags which blow no good, which blow lies and deception. You know, the I'll huff and I'll puff and I'll blow your house down kind of windbags? Who's afraid of the big bad Taber, or the big, bad Mansbridge, or Boag, or...you get my drift?

And then you call Israel "a radical human rights violating THEOCRACY"???? What planet are you living on?

To quote lookout from a thread on sda, in response to another moonbat using the same terminology: "Theocracy: 'a form of government by God or a god directly or by a priestly order etc. claiming divine commission' (Canadian Oxford Dictionary). Israel's a secular democracy."

Muslim states are theocracies. Get your facts straight, Leafbeliever--and avoid certain kinds of leaves. They may be bad for your health--and your sanity.

Posted by: new kid on the block | 2006-07-29 1:06:35 PM


MuslimCanadian wrote: No, I dont support terrorism or want to conquer Canada and restart the Sulatante and yes I am a religous Muslim who believes in plurity and respect for human rights.

And haven't we all heard that before.

Posted by: No Spin Zone | 2006-07-29 1:19:44 PM


"You've hijacked this thread. Good job."

You can skip over our comments, if you wish, can't you?

Posted by: Ian Scott | 2006-07-29 1:27:15 PM


NK:

I agree. Israel is not a theocracy.

It's the product of Zionist agitation that culminated in a portion of land about the size of New Jersey partitioned by a UN vote and placed in a a much larger sea of angry tribal jihadists forced into countries with artificial borders.

This, I guess, is the justification of why Hezbollah and the nation of Lebanon can co-exists even though it defies the logic of the western mind as to how one country can house two armies.

Apparently, it makes sense to the jihadist's mind.

Posted by: Set you free | 2006-07-29 1:30:36 PM


Ian Scott: Looks like you now know what stick to use to open a hornet's nest. Scrolling down the comments is very informative, enlightening and entertaining, some dark humour as well, which would scandalize many, especially the Left. After all, this is the new Canada, we love everyone, trust everyone, even those who hate us and wish to harm us. Sorry I cannot get into specifics and risk being labelled racist, I'll just dummy-up and ignore the "elephant in the room", to quote a very astute journalist.

Posted by: Liz J | 2006-07-29 3:01:03 PM


" Looks like you now know what stick to use to open a hornet's nest."

If providing a different perspective is akin to opening a hornet's nest, then I would imagine there's not much hope for this blog.

Posted by: Ian Scott | 2006-07-29 3:23:14 PM


People, please don't fall for the Muslim tactics of deception called "al Taqiya".
You all should know by now that Muslims are monitoring this blog and try every trick to push their agenda.
I hope it's clear by now that Ian Scott, Geoff and many more are Muslims probably using fake names.

Posted by: Canadian | 2006-07-29 3:31:23 PM


Ian Scott: A hornet's nest can net a few stings, they aren't harmful, but they do smart. Reading some posts takes one back to name calling a la the schoolyard. Lots of hope for this blog, it's among the best. It's different perspectives that feed debates.

Posted by: Liz J | 2006-07-29 4:21:17 PM


Here's one one topic.

Since neither Hezollah or the UN are soveriegn nations and Israel always gets outvoted ...

Why not keep Israel the way it is and rename the surrounding Muslim-controlled areas Jihadiland.

That way, there would be no confusion about either borders or intent.

Posted by: Set you free | 2006-07-29 5:02:05 PM


I applaud MuslimCanadian for being a moderate muslim. Fantastic. Moving on.
Why don't Western Muslims organize against fanatical elements within their religion?

As for his remarks about being discriminated against because of who he was born as, muslims aren't the first immigrant group in Canada and some redneck calling him a raghead is nothing in comparison to the REAL discrimination suffered by Italians, Germans, Japanese, Chinese etc.

The fact is, Canada goes out of its way to accomodate "minorities." Accomodation to the extent that they are venerated as the true Canadians. Listen to the CBC for an hour one day.

Posted by: native | 2006-07-29 5:26:48 PM


Canadian: So you think Ian Scott and Geoff could be Muslims? Now there's a thought to ponder. Woodbridge: You appear to have a lot of inside information, maybe we should add your name to the list of possible muslims. A conspiracy theorist would consider all possibilities. Could be we are being baited for some key information as to how much resistance there will be to a muslim takeover. Is the world going crazy or is it just the banter on this thread?

Posted by: Liz J | 2006-07-29 5:30:45 PM


Liz J,
Unfortunately, most westerners don't understand the Muslim mind, culture and undivided loyalty to the Ummah.

They will do whatever it takes to achieve their objectives.

Posted by: Canadian | 2006-07-29 6:15:03 PM


Damn it, Canadian, did you have to "out" me like that? Now I'm afraid Christian extremists who want to destroy Islam are gonna kill me!!

Now I'll have to resort to my old KGB connections for my protection, I guess. Darn!

Posted by: Ian Scott | 2006-07-30 12:05:17 AM


Ian Scott: Good luck on that 'christian extremist' thing. Let me know when you find them, or rather, when they find you. Guess you're kind of like Salman Rushdie now, huh ?

Posted by: MarkAlta | 2006-07-30 12:11:42 AM


Mark, yeah.. I'm really afraid. Woodbridge probably doesn't live too far from me, and who knows what Remi would do?

Liz J figures I'm testing her "resistance."

Right Girl wants folk like me banned!

Shucks, ya know?

Posted by: Ian Scott | 2006-07-30 12:37:31 AM


Ian: Just as long as they don't try to saw your head off. Apparently some 'extemists' prefer that type of 'extremism' to whatever 'christian extremism' you are worried about.

Posted by: MarkAlta | 2006-07-30 9:22:59 AM


Ian Scott a Muslim? Bahahahahaha, for you people who have never met to talked to Ian, Ian is way to ugly to be a Mulsim ;-)

Posted by: Zorpheous | 2006-07-30 10:11:49 AM


Mark, I guess once a person has been "whacked," (see Woodbridge's comments above), or whatever method has been chosen, the end result is still the same.

Posted by: Ian Scott | 2006-07-30 5:10:38 PM


Christian extremism is equivalent to become a monk and live in a monastery.

Muslim extremism is equivalent to bigotry, fascism and terrorism.

Ian Scott, you're a Muslim liberal and your blog jihad is showing.

It should be obvious by now that we don't want any more Muslims. We need serious immigration and citizenship reforms.

Posted by: Canadian | 2006-07-30 5:53:13 PM


Turns out the most recent bombing in Israel, that supposedly killed all those women and children, was a Hisbollah set-up!

The bodies do not lie!

You can tell from the state of decomposition, how long a person has been dead.

The terrorists planted dead people into the buildings, and then hours after the last set of missiles from Israel, detonated a bomb, that blew up a building of dead people. Then they rushed in the media, who were more than happy to make the report, without the facts. When compared to the war record, the inconsistencies came out!

How much you want to bet that the truth gets the back page of a paper, if that? OK, no bets, you just look, and what was front page headlines, will be back page resolve!

Posted by: Lady | 2006-07-31 9:46:14 AM


Wow Lady,

Any real evidence to backup your tinfoil hat theory? Maybe you got that lovely idea from one of those 9/11 really happened and the USA blew up the Trade Towers coo-coo sites?

~rolls eyes~

Posted by: Zorpheous | 2006-07-31 10:47:47 AM


Lady:

I agree with Zorp. This conspiracy theory is a bit over the top.

Posted by: Set you free | 2006-07-31 10:57:43 AM


"Ian Scott, you're a Muslim liberal"

Heh... you know what my real Islamic name is?

Cat Stevens!

Posted by: Ian Scott | 2006-07-31 3:06:25 PM


in reality if you all knew the one true creator you would understand that intolerance is not the way to get things done. why are we so afraid to hear what others have to say? it's all just human opinions. we are all the same race. we are all human race. no difference. same fears,emotions,etc. why after so many generations of fighting have we not noticed that killing each other is not working? the only thing that will work is caring about others. if you listen to no one else listen deep within yourselves and you will find the real god, tugging at your heart to do the right thing. god is with all of us. its up to us to listen or not.
peace to all
kathleen

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http://www.makestupidityhistory.org/2005/11/01/hurricane-evacuees-murder-woman-who-helped-them/

Posted by: Democrat | 2006-08-11 6:56:57 PM



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