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Thursday, July 27, 2006
DEFEND OR DIE
...I was wearing the words and carrying the sentiment in my heart.
The Stand With Israel rally in Toronto last night was an impressive show of solidarity (reports of over 5000 in attendance). Despite the faint hopes of the leftists in this country -- and no doubt the media -- the turnout was spectacular and contrary to similar gatherings of the anti-Israel crowd, this one was filled with positive messages and an overwhelming sense of goodwill.
I never did find Wendy, but the luscious new beau and I had great time taking our place in the crowd against capitulation and concession to murderers. What struck me was not the overwhelming presence of the Israeli flag, but that it was nearly out-numbered by those who chose to wave the Canadian flag as well...
We enjoyed the speeches, and for a rare moment, stood proudly for our National Anthem. The entire crowd gave waves of hearty applause for the actions of Prime Minister Stephen Harper (the luscious beau has taken to calling him Steve-O) and the Conservative government which is not afraid to stand for what is right, in the face of international capitulation. (read UN self-sodomy)
The night was not without its humorous moments...There was one lone protestor with a sign that read "No US and Canadian support of Israel"...Oh my, that's catchy! Unfortunately, the police escorted him away before I could get a picture of his pathetic display. If thats the best the anti crowd can do, we're in good shape ;)
The luscious beau and I had a good laugh at this dude...
...the personification of ox·y·mo·ron
A good night. A good cause. And a big fat thumb in the eye of anyone who says Canadians don't support Israel's right to defend itself. Clearly, even in the leftist bastion of Toronto, there is enough of us to cause a stir.
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Come on, Alberta! It's time for our own pro-Israel rally.
Surely we can beat the Easterners at this. They're novices when it comes to supporting democracy, freedom and liberty. We've seen all three destroyed before our faces in the NEP, so we know how precious they are.
Israel deserves our support as they are fighting to preserve what we all hold dear. Now is not the time to stand idly by while terrorists threaten what we all hold dear. We must stand by PM Harper and President Bush all the way as they support PM Olmert, the Israel Defence Forces, and the Israeli people.
Posted by: Zebulon PIke | 2006-07-27 8:16:48 AM
Wonder Woman -
A Great story and wonderful pictures of a fine event!
Our nations a chock full of superb patriotic faithful people. An uplifting cause for action with powerful inspiring speeches will bring out the best in us every time. Thanks for your reporting.
A small word of caution, us extraordinarily handsome men tend to be shy. Be careful when introducing your luscious beau. ; - )
Back to earth, it is obvious that he has good eyesight as well, since you certainly are a beautiful young lady!
Posted by: Conrad-USA | 2006-07-27 8:23:36 AM
Posted by: Winston | 2006-07-27 8:50:31 AM
I am impressed!
Posted by: Lady | 2006-07-27 8:59:03 AM
Perhaps the reason we hear less from the patriotic sane right who support Israel is because unlike so much of the rabble on the left, most of us work for a living.
We also are not in the habit of running around the streets with signs and banners when we can be doing more constructive things.
I think we have just received a message from the silent majority and it's looking good.
Thanks for this report Wonder woman.
Posted by: Duke | 2006-07-27 9:07:59 AM
The Left has definitely been more vocal and has learned well how to get that gov't funding
But thats starting to change as things dry up.
Conservatives are starting to get their second wind and why? Because our social order is headed to hell in a teapot if we don't take control of this train wreck.
Ah! its a grand day to be a Conservative and a grand time to be a Canadian under PM Harper.
Do I smell a majority in the next election?
I think so!
Posted by: in ques t | 2006-07-27 10:15:34 AM
In ques t, you obviously don't live in Ontario or Quebec. After Harper's latest capers (absolutely no feeling at all for the dead children from Montreal and the UN peacekeeper, for fear of losing his lapdog status to Bush), he is regarded even lower in these parts (as a backbone-less kiss ass). And I believe we have the biggest number of the seats - so no majority for you!!
Posted by: Geoff H | 2006-07-27 10:34:18 AM
Well Geoff H, Canadian Jews have traditionally voted Liberal. I think we'll see how many of those seats go CPC.
It would be nice if the Aspers switched from Liberal to CPC.
Posted by: Speller | 2006-07-27 10:45:20 AM
The Globe and Mail is running a poll that asks whether your opinion of PM Harper has changed for the better or worse because of the pro-Israel position he has taken in the current Mideast crisis. Please vote ASAP and encourage ALL of your contacts to do the same. The poll is half-way down the page on the right under "Globe Poll" on http://www.theglobeandmail.com/
Posted by: jon | 2006-07-27 10:58:44 AM
You people may have the biggest number of seats but change is definitely on the horizon
Your comments show that you suffer from tunnel vision.
Israel has lost people as well, people with hopes and aspirations loves and fears.
People like you and me.
All people lose in war you fool...this has been the way since the beginning of time.
What we need to do is make good choices in order to minimize collateral damage.
Israel has shown good faith on numerous occasions now.
Hezbollah and Hamas have no intention of doing so.
Posted by: in ques t | 2006-07-27 11:00:54 AM
Why do you people hate Canadians?
Posted by: Justin... | 2006-07-27 11:04:53 AM
Watching The National last night (a temporary aberration: I haven't tuned in for weeks), you'd never know that 8000 people attended the Stand with Israel Rally. Why?
Because when I'm-Peter-Mansbridge-and-You're-Not reported on the Rally, he said that "over 1000" people attended it. What's wrong with this picture?
I turned to my husband and said, "Did he say that only 1000 people attended that rally?" and my husband responded that that's what he thought Mansbug had said. Funny how that 1000-number sticks in your head...
So, this morning, I went to cbc.ca and watched last night's segment on the rally and discovered that the CBC's estimation of the crowd size was grossly misleading--and perhaps a misrepresentation?
I've written to the CBC Ombudsman (who, BTW, is a former CBC employee, detoured to Ryerson's Journalism department, then invited back by the CBC to be their ombudsman...no conflict of interest here, right?) to ask whether the CBC gave an intentionally misleading number (we all know that the CBC is not a fan of Israel) or if they did a basically lousy job of estimating the crowd.
Whatever the answer, it is yet another dismal showing on the part of the CBC--what would we expect?--and clearly shows that it's time for the CBC to be packed in, shut down, deep-sixed, got rid of, eliminated...
Canadian taxpayers have had enough.
Posted by: new kid on the block | 2006-07-27 11:12:27 AM
PS--Sorry, I should have added that what Peter Mansbridge actually reported was that "over 1000" people attended the Stand with Israel Rally, when the actual crowd size was closer to 8000.
There's a BIG difference between "over 1000" people and 8000 people, which is the number that both CTV and the CBC (neither of them exactly supporters of Israel) reported on their Web sites this morning.
Posted by: new kid on the block | 2006-07-27 11:17:49 AM
New Kid, the CBC website also misreported the raising of $6M by the Jewish Community, and led us to believe that the money was raised at the event. It was not. It was raised earlier in the afternoon, by telephone.
The CBC obviously just didn't care enough to get the facts straight.
Posted by: RightGirl | 2006-07-27 11:24:33 AM
its like when they report 50,000 "canadians" wanted out of lebanon and as it is, only about 9,000 want out and hardly a "canadian" among them
Posted by: Passport | 2006-07-27 11:25:11 AM
My thoughts exactly on the CBC
No I love my country like nothing else. That's why I feel and say what I do.
As I've explained before...
Canada,in the near future, will no longer be a recognizable country if somethings don't change immediately
Folks need to get rid of the complacency and PC brainwashing FAST!
Remember ,if you don't know what you stand for then you stand for nothing.
Posted by: in ques t | 2006-07-27 11:28:59 AM
Thanks Jon for the info on the poll. I just voted and noticed at this point it shows about 31% in favour and 57% against the PM's stand for Israel. Just wonder how many of those against votes are from our Muslim/Arab "citizens" along with the usual lefties, who are always stuck in reverse anyway.
I also note that in this thread, Geoff H. has shown his true colours. Not surprised though.
Posted by: Alain | 2006-07-27 11:30:17 AM
The CBC is irrelevant and should be disbanded. The concept of a national official broadcaster is an affront to democratic principles by implying that one opinion is superior to another. In a democracy, all are equal.
Justin asked a typically stupid question that has nothing to do with the discussion: "Why do you people hate Canadians?"
What on earth does showing support for Israel have to do with hating Canadians (not Canada, mind you)? Justin, come back when you have something intelligent to say.
Posted by: Zebulon PIke | 2006-07-27 11:30:40 AM
in ques t, you and I see more in common than you might think. Holding Israel accountable for its actions doesn't mean that I support terrorism or forgive or ignore Hezbollah of what it's doing to Haifa (from where several of my good friends hail) and northern Israel. I just don't subscribe to the "us OR them", "good vs evil" theories in EVERY instance.
Change happened in the last election. I know because as a life-long Liberal voter (federally), I voted Conservative. I did this (as did many others in eastern Canada) because we believed Harper to be strong to his core values, but moderated on his more extreme (former?) values. We expected him to warm up US-Canada relations without selling out.
I can assure you that in Canada's two largest cities, his stances over the last two weeks have turned people right off. It's not because anyone supports Hezbollah; it's because we don't have that salivating thirst for blood like the New Right does. To see innocent people die in BOTH Israel and Lebanon is a turn-off for us, whereas some of you get massive hard-ons at the sight of an Arab baby or woman dying.
Rational folks would have supported a cease-fire (due to the escalating civilian casualties), with a follow-up goal of stabilizing Lebanon and disarming Hezbollah. Harper and Mackay, along with their US counterparts, have shown that they don't value life as long as their dogmatic approach to "terror" is satisfied. And for those not sold on Harper, this just angers them more.
Speller: there are not enough Jews to make a difference as far as Harper is concerned. Within the greater Toronto area, they are heavily concentrated in about TWO ridings. His popularity in Quebec has probably gone down in at LEAST two of the ridings that he won last time out. Quebec was the only province to have a greater number of people diasagree with his stance on "measured" than agree. Personally, I hope the Aspers do become Conservatives as they have used Can-West Media many times to censor anything that may be critical of Israel.
Justin - you need to add a bit of intelligent discourse to your comments if you want someone to respond.
Posted by: Geoff H | 2006-07-27 11:31:10 AM
So Harper turned people in Toronto off.
Posted by: Zebulon Pike | 2006-07-27 11:38:58 AM
If there aren't any polls indicating disaffection for Prime Minister Harper then it is just Geoff's parochial opinion, Zeb.
Posted by: Speller | 2006-07-27 11:57:47 AM
Zebulon, the Toronto you disdain has the most seats (by far) of any greater metropolitan area in Canada. It's also the financial capital. While "turning it off" Toronto can be worn as a badge of honour to westerners, it won't get your beloved Steve his majority.
Alain: I'm glad you've seen my true colours - I am most definitely NOT a neo-nazi, neo-con who worships at the alter of bloodshed like many of the folks here. I come here to see a different point of view, and I find many of the people quite sincere here in their thinking (whether I agree or not). There's still the expected quotient of racist hatred one would expect on a right-wing blog, as well as misinformation and spin, and (surpisingly to me) a few religious wingnuts (who use mythical Scripture to justify bloodshed - wow, just like the Islamists?!?).
Posted by: Geoff H | 2006-07-27 12:02:49 PM
Speller, the poll was taken last weekend. I'll try to dig up the results. It was done by province, and Quebec was the only province to register greater than 50% dissatisfaction with harper's stance on "measured" (mainly to the relatively high Arab population, and that Quebec is traditionally anti-war).
Speller, I talk about facts. I don't hate people based on what my Bible tells me, like yourself.
Posted by: Geoff H | 2006-07-27 12:06:30 PM
My dream is that the rest of Canada outside the GTA votes overwhelmingly for Harper in a majority government. Then we can begin the destruction of Toronto as this so-called "center of the country". My advice: return the GTA to a pre-industrial state by destroying every building in the area, building only small one family homes for everyone regardless of income, and limiting economic activity to small farming and the barter system. Only then will they have their "perfect, idealized socialist system."
Meanwhile the capital accumulated by their corporations will be seized and redistributed among non-Ontarians as punishment for a century of abuse. Alberta gets $100b for the NEP, the aboriginals get a cut, as does Quebec for crime committed against them in the 1970 Invasion.
Oh yeah: no emigration either. GTA residents will be forbidden to leave. They're the ones responsible, so they're the ones who will pay.
In other news: Cindy Sheehan has purchased 5 acres in Crawford, Texas (with money from her soldier son Casey's life insurance policy - how nice!) to use until (and I quote): "We decided to buy property in Crawford to use until George's resignation or impeachment, which we all hope is soon for the sake of the world,"
Could this woman be anymore delusional or disrespectful? She wastes her son's money in her shameless trampling of his memory to criticize the President.
Posted by: Zebulon Pike | 2006-07-27 12:17:16 PM
Yes, Geoff, I read the poll. It wasn't about satifaction relating to Prime Minister Harper, it was about Canadian's position on the Israeli/Hizb'allah conflict.
Quebec: 57% DO NOT support Israel's use of force in Lebanon.
That means 43% of Quebecers polled DO support Israel.
Remember how elections work in this country. A party dosen't need 50% + 1 support to win.
If those who voted 43% in Quebec in support of Israel vote CPC that's an increase of 24.6% the CPC gets above what they recieved in Quebec in 2006 and more than the 42.2% the Bloc got.
The other 57% can split vote some other way for a party that opposes the actions, if the 43% of supporters are hardcore in their support of the CPC.
Posted by: Speller | 2006-07-27 12:20:57 PM
Speaking on behalf of all Montrealers and Torontonians, Geoff H. assures us that in Canada's two largest cities, his stances over the last two weeks have turned people off because "we don't have that salivating thirst for blood...some of you get massive hard-ons at the sight of an Arab baby or woman dying."
"I talk about facts", he reminds us, and advises another commenter to add a bit of intelligent discourse to his comments if he wants someone to respond.
Hey Geoff, are you from Toronto?
Posted by: EBD | 2006-07-27 12:21:30 PM
Forget about polls in this country. The Liberals have imported all kinds of problems including terrorism, it can be heard every day on radio talk shows and it's frightening. Polls are the least of our worries.
Posted by: Liz J | 2006-07-27 12:31:39 PM
After reading this:
"If one didn't already know about the Islamofascists' courage in attacking schoolgirls and falafel stands, one could conclude that Nasrallah and the rest of the Hezbollah leadership still above room temperature had a bit of a yellow streak."
I got to thinking that not attacking the IDF leaves teh IDF to use their full arsenal against Hezbollah. Israel keeps attacking Hezbollah's arsenal and 'personnel', but Hezbollah attacks cities. Kind of stupid to not try to take out your enemy's ability to kill you. No wonder this spat won't last long.
And Geoff, civilian casualties are not equal. The arabs that are dying in Nazarath are being targetted by Hezbollah. That is tragic. The human shields in Lebanon should have run away or taken up the fight against Hezbollah. They are not equal no matter how many times you try to make it so. The kids that are dying in Lebanon should have been removed by their parents. When it comes to men, how do you know which were civilians and which were hezbollah?
I don't want any civilians to die. Hezbollah want many to die as either martyrs or infidels.
John M Reynolds
Posted by: jmrSudbury | 2006-07-27 12:32:17 PM
Geoff: Ceasefire won't help Israel, it'll just give the Hezzies more time to regroup. They have had 2 years since article 1559 (UN whatever) to put down their weapons and what have they done ? they brought into Lebanon tens of thousands of rockets and started firing them into israel as well as kidnapping jewish soldiers from Israel. Lebanon is too impotent to disarm them, so Israel can help. Disarm and dis-leg and dis-head all the hezzies!
Posted by: MarkAlta | 2006-07-27 12:32:52 PM
I'm glad to see we have a government with some back bone for a change. Stephen Harper makes me proud to be Canadian again. Israel should be supported to the end for she is fighting for her survival surrounded by those who want to eliminate her.
I'm in Calgary today visiting my brother and was alarmed to see that Calgary is building the largest mosque in North America. Let's not forget the fight abroad is here, and will come with a vengeance if we don't watch it.
Posted by: niv | 2006-07-27 12:54:23 PM
Pleased to see the massive turnout in Toronto in support of Israel. A decade ago a large turnout of supporters of Israel could be accomplished in Halifax Nova Scotia, but not today, with the media and the universities dominated by the socialist horde and their support for the PLO and
Middle Eastern terrorism in the guise of "freedom for Palestine" anti Israeli spin in the local Halifax media, prompted by their connections with King's College School of Journalism is an annoying by product of University anti Israel tenured professsors, some of them graduates of Ryerson Toronto. Post 1975 Lebanese immigration has created Lebanese busineses which in my opinion are funded by Hezbollah, which provides massive amounts of investment capital, as reported in the Times of London last Sunday. MacLeod
Posted by: Jack Macleod | 2006-07-27 1:12:52 PM
I do find Harper scary. Frightening really to see ,such an intelligence in Ottawa. One that does not only make pronouncements. but does what he says. Stands for the real victims not the manufactured type. That as well as the real monsters do not get a pass with this guy. A Pm with balls & not afraid to take them out.
Incredibly horrific. If your a Socialist or Marxist.
I have no idea what we did right. To have an honorable man Like Stephen Harper during this dark time.
I believe you seen more flags because we can hold our heads up again as patriotic Canadians. Not as appeasers to every dictator in the world.
Years of political correctness, backed up by Kangaroo Human rights boards. Makes McCarthyism look like a joke with no punch line.
The oppression of ideas in this Nation has been a blanket of ignorance, now being gently lifted . By a man who actually believes in a free Nation of choices, for individuals.
Thank G-D we have a PM who see's who the real enemy is & has no shame to stand up for Israel in this. As well one who points in the right direction where the horses of chaos reside.
I have a delightful feeling if Harper ever gets a Majority. CBC can kiss there collectivized butts goodbye.
The banshee has already cried death to this ugly little propaganda scam. Masquerading as news & information. Instead of canned comments plus leftist ideology, laced with anti Americanism. A medium abused by a public broadcaster, passing as objective, but more in line with invective.
Towards all who would challenge triumphant socialism. The Utopia that never was or will be.
Snake oil salesmen had more integrity.
At least you got a kick from the medicine.
This is like imbibing human waste for supper.
We pay for this swill?
Keep up the good work Ezra.
Posted by: Revnant Dream | 2006-07-27 1:48:38 PM
Thanks Revnant Dream. I tried to Google it to see if that was one of Hitler's speeches from a rally in Nuremburg in 1933.
Forget about a majority. We "socialists" in Toronto - the greatest city in Canada - will not let it happen. Unless you can import about 4 million rednecks into Calgary, we will always have the most seats. (I see the 1 millionth person was born yesterday in Calgary, so you're only about 4 million behind the GTA).
Let me know how you feel when yur son has to fight in Iraq, Iran, North Korea or wherever the Americans tell Harper to send his troops.
Posted by: Geoff H | 2006-07-27 2:05:51 PM
Geoff H :
Hurt that bad did it?
Posted by: Revnant Dream | 2006-07-27 2:21:37 PM
What is it with paranoid leftists? Do they REALLY think that we send troops because W says so? Is it really that easy to discount the fact that Canadian and American interests in foreign conflicts are often very similar?
Take off the tinfoil hat, Geoff. And thanks for killing the thread. Godwin's Law.
Posted by: Mike H | 2006-07-27 2:24:06 PM
Hey, not only does Geoff H. kill the thread, he loses the argument, which is what happens to the person who gratuitously invokes either Hitler or one of his dastardly crew. Cheap shot, GH.
Posted by: new kid on the block | 2006-07-27 2:28:06 PM
Mike H, Harper said that he would have sent Canadians to Iraq if had been PM at the time. Look it up.
How is the thread "killed"? How can one "leftist" posting in the midst of numerous ultra-right pit bulls, celebrating equally the amount of blood Israel can get out of Lebanon and the portly PM of Canada, kill a thread???
Posted by: Geoff H | 2006-07-27 2:30:07 PM
NKOTB, yes it was a cheap-shot but the fervency with which you lot celebrate Steve's new found independence (from the thinking of most Canadians east of Manitoba) invokes either Germany in the 30's or Beatlemania in the 60's.
I repeat: here in Ontario, he is heavily scorned upon for his foreign policy. Maybe out West, you see differently. And that's fine. Isn't democracy about having differing opinions?
Posted by: Geoff H | 2006-07-27 2:33:59 PM
Geoff, I was in the Canadian forces and I am willing to fight in Iraq, Iran, North Korea or wherever there are Islamists.
What will you do for your Country (assuming off course it's Canada)?
Posted by: Canadian | 2006-07-27 2:34:11 PM
On some blogs those who break 'Godwin's Law' get a demerit toward permanent banning.
THERE IS NO DEODORANT LIKE THE SMELL OF SUCCESS!!!
Posted by: Speller | 2006-07-27 2:36:49 PM
Canadian, well there's friggin' Islamists in Mississauga. When will you be invading?? There's probaly about a billion of them in the world - you got that much time??
I don't believe there are Islamists in North Korea but if Dubya tells Steve that there are, you might be on your way. Get packin'.
Posted by: Geoff H | 2006-07-27 2:37:30 PM
A FOREIGN country kills our soldiers and our citizens and that's fine by you?
God you people are pathetic.
Posted by: Justin... | 2006-07-27 2:43:59 PM
Geoff. Mike H | Jul 27, 2006 2:24:06 PM posted, "Is it really that easy to discount the fact that Canadian and American interests in foreign conflicts are often very similar?"
Why have you not answered the question? If you just want to discuss and debate, then you have to answer some of our questions too.
John M Reynolds
Posted by: jmrSudbury | 2006-07-27 2:44:19 PM
Geoff wrote: "Canadian, well there's friggin' Islamists in Mississauga."
That's the result of the corrupt and incompetent Liberal Government and leftist/Muslim/terrorist sympathizers like you.
The only way to fix this damage to Canada is to reform the immigration policies.
Posted by: Canadian | 2006-07-27 2:44:42 PM
Godwin's Law looks fair but the rampant desire here to exterminate people of Muslim origin, without actually using the Nazi word, seems like the same thing.
So it appears using the Nazi word could (should) lead to a banning, but encouraging Nazi-like behaviour doesn't?? I don't get it.
Anyway, I apologize to Revnant Dream for the reference. It was in bad taste and uncalled for.
Posted by: Geoff H | 2006-07-27 2:46:36 PM
Justin, who said that A FOREIGN country killing our soldiers and our citizens is fine?
Your debating techniques are pathetic.
John M Reynolds
Posted by: jmrSudbury | 2006-07-27 2:46:41 PM
Geoff, don't lump us all together. I don't agree that all muslims are a problem. The barely practicing mulims, like Chrismas and Easter Christians, are quite like most hardworking Canadians. Only those that want sharia law practiced world wide and are willing to kill infidels through Jihad are the problem. Those like Hezbollah.
I like it when a leftist drops by with some ideas for me to ponder. I just wish more of them had better debating skills.
I am hopefully off to a movie, so have a good evening all. It is now 5 pm in Ontario.
John M Reynolds
Posted by: jmrSudbury | 2006-07-27 2:58:20 PM
Geoff H just broke Godwin's Law AGAIN!!!!
He is purposely trying to roger this thread.
Equivalencies, equivalencies,Geoff it says right in the Koran that Muslims have a duty to convert us or KILL us.
Muslim countries are 3rd world toilets and some of them have OIL to offer that WE have to locate for them, pump out of the ground for them, build pipelines to transport it for them, and refine for them.
They have NOTHING to offer us and yet THEY want to convert US to a better way.
Ain't happening. They don't have a better way.
THEY want to KILL me. The solution is to kill them first.
The victims of the holocaust were victims of an AGGRESSOR, get it.
Muslims are the AGGRESSOR, we are the potential VICTIMS.
Posted by: Speller | 2006-07-27 2:59:49 PM
Canadians went with the Americans into the Gulf war.
You never heard anyone complain about that now, did you?
You may wish to note that going in, as in what went in before, and what can go in now, and with what, are critical questions.
I know you are incapable of answering those questions, because you have watched too many American war movies, and really do not know what you are talking about, when it comes to Canadian Military.
And yet, you seem to love talking about it. You remind me of the fellow who wanted to talk about the horrors of nuclear power. When asked whether he would like to discuss the physics of it first, he said he would not, as he had never studied physics.
You are just another one of those Canadian sheep herders.
You love to herd people with their fears, and their lack of knowledge, and their inadequate access to information.
You love to herd people with their prejudices, and false assumptions about people.
In this case, you relish exploiting people's lack of knowledge about Jewish people, and the State of Israel.
Meanwhile, you really only know what propaganda has been hurled your way.
You probably really do believe that you are doing some good work, for someone, somewhere. Fact is, if you actually made a stand against terror, that was not biased by your ignorance, you might even prove to be OK one day.
Until then, people on the left, right and centre, are making a stand against terrorists. What actual economic system a person believes in, has nothing to do with their position against terrorists. And rightly so. Terrorists, in the case of Hisbollah and Hamas, are not interested in people's positions on economy. They are only interested in killing all Jews, of each and every persuasion. And people who stand behind terrorists, and believe that by supporting terrorists, they can save themselves, are cowed!
People, like you, are responsible for this war. And people, of every political stripe, are going to have to stop it!
Posted by: Lady | 2006-07-27 3:02:44 PM
Geoff's actions on this blog is al Taqiya tactics:
Read till the end......
"For interesting examples of Taqiya methods, visit Christian discussion groups and forums and note the discourse of Islamist visitors, aimed at undermining the Christian perception of Jews, and visit Jewish discussion groups and forums and note the subtle anti-Christian discourse of Islamists visitors. It is really informative and fascinating."
Posted by: Canadian | 2006-07-27 3:07:38 PM
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