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Friday, June 09, 2006
Iran is not a terrorist sponsor?
That's what Communist China would like us to believe.
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Right, and the pope is not Catholic.
One thing all totalitarian regimes (left or right)have in common is a complete lack of time or respect for truth. They can state the biggest lies without blinking, so here they go again.
Posted by: Alain | 2006-06-09 11:07:50 AM
America has sponsered terrorists too. Why is it acceptable for the US to sponsor terrorists? Why the double standard?
Posted by: Enlighten Us | 2006-06-09 11:15:30 AM
Hizb'allah, a large, active, long standing terrorist organization in the Bekka valley in southern Lebanon, is a client of Iran.
Iran is, in fact, their sponsor.
Posted by: Speller | 2006-06-09 11:19:32 AM
"America has sponsered terrorists too."
Posted by: Enlighten Us
Could you be specific, or are you just going to pull general unsupported accusations out of your ass?
Posted by: Speller | 2006-06-09 11:23:24 AM
I don't need to provide footnotes for items that are generally known. I'm a little amazed that someone as informed as you needs to be walked through this issue.
Posted by: Enlighten us on why US can use terrorists | 2006-06-09 11:30:46 AM
Iran also sponsors the Palestinian Authority to the tune of $100,000,000 US dollars per year. The Arab League at $600,000,000 USD per year.
I always find it incredible that out of one side of their mouth, they chant "death to America and death to the infidels" while they scurry around vaccuuming up US currency like never before.
And then their leadership vaccuum the money before it gets to the people. I read somewhere that Arafat was worth 8 Billion when he died. And he was an Egyptian engineer, who spent most of his life as a terrorist. Had he stayed in engineering, he would have retired with maybe a couple million at best.
Terrorism is BIG business making money off of corruption, at the sake of innocent lives!
Posted by: Lady | 2006-06-09 11:33:42 AM
I'm not asking for a link or 'footnote' just name the group of US sponsored terrorists and the instance of an attack that this group made, Enlighten us.
Posted by: Speller | 2006-06-09 11:41:03 AM
Hard to argue with Lady on this point.
I am pro USA and anti islam (for all the reason you can imagine). And I have a problem with aid to terrorist regimes.
Can anyone explain with we do it?
Are we stupid, or naive ... or is there something about paying people to hate us I am not aware of?
Posted by: Duke | 2006-06-09 11:42:22 AM
Enlighten may have been speaking about the millions the US sends to Turkey every year, which they use to suppress Christianity in one of the ancient capitals of Christianity.
Or, it may have been the millions the US spent in the Bosnian war, where Albanian Muslims, with the help of Al-Qaida veterans from Afghanistan, encroached across the former Serbian border.
Or, take your pick on any actions by Bill Clinton, who supported Muslim causes during his eight years while spending millions to blow up tents in the desert once he opened his eyes and figured out Osama bin Laden was not a good guy.
Far as I know, Dubya has taken a strong stance against jihadism and helped enforce a festering problem in Iraq by enforcing 14 UN resolutions dating back to 1990.
Enlighten us if you have any other examples.
Posted by: Set you free | 2006-06-09 12:03:42 PM
It is spelt L-I-B-E-R-A-L and should be spelt R-L-A-T-I-V-I-S-M
You know why it is NOT against the law to export DOG FUR AND CAT FUR out of CANADA?
Because someone who eats dog and cat might get offended.
And so AID to terrorist regimes occurs under the banner of AID on the basis of humanity.
But the message is: OK, we will disaprove of those amongst you who kill people in restaurants, buses, shopping centres, subways, trains and planes sometimes (bad terrorists, now stop, please stop, please,please,please... bad, bad... oh but you are hungry you say?)
BUT when the world cannot do business with them anymore, because they are afraid of having their heads cut off, and they then say they will fund all your needs at taxpayer's expence!
Oh, to avoid a human tragedy of course!
Because we are nice people. But we give to those who hate us, at the expence of not providing to those within our own borders.
Does not matter that they brought it all on themselves, no!
Does not matter that the banks of the world have pulled out, because they like the look of the heads of their employees firmly attached to their employees living and breathing bodies!
Does not matter that gross violations of human rights are occurring each and every day, under the regime of submission and terrorism.
No way, we are dumb enough to say that although they are very bad people, we will ignore the fact that they do wrong and are not held accountable for their crimes, say it is the product of so called "marxist oppression" and give the terrorists free food, electricity, medical, clothing etc... because we are nice people.
Fact remains, they have had an ever increasingly greater propensity for terrorism, and their lie of a cause has provided the juice to kill the goose that lays the golden eggs.
They reward us, as they have done the Israelis and the Americans, who are the first people on the ground when a disaster occurs, without question, with suicide bombers, blatent lies in the media and throughout the websites, dangerously false conspiracy theories, profanity and whatever other terroristic means they have at their disposal.
Because they know, that by being awful, that they will be paid off. It is the tactic. Because they want the money, but they do not want to live in the free world. They want the way of living, but they do not want to live the freedom values that will get them there. And they want to practice their own religion, but to hell with everyone else, as theirs trumps everyone one else according to their way of thinking and even of those amongst them who practice a reghional traditional religion, other than that which is out of mecca, like Christianity and Judaism.
We give, because we are nice people, and think that if we do, that we will be able to have some kind of influence in the area.
But that message never gets through. It does not get through, because of the language and cultural barrier. Folks like the ISM through groups like CUPE have been coopted so badly, that they are kept in the lies, while we are kept in the dark! The message of freedom and democracy then gets twisted.
We respond with utter surprise that the terrorists get elected.
Oh, that must be a mistake!? No? Maybe they were voting for them because of the social services? But that is not what is said in the Hamas Charter? And the majority seem to like that?
But we give some more!
And then we have nothing left over, to ensure that those without ability within our country, have basics. Sure, we know there are free loaders here, but at least they are our free loaders. And we know that a job is the best social safety net a person could ever have. And we know that when people are down and in need, and are grateful, that it is good to be a Canadian. We pay our taxes so that people do not starve in front of wealth. But we would not permit a person in Canada to do what it is they do to Americans and Israelis, and now us, but over there, it is not tkane seriously.
Oh, because it is relative....
Answer your question?
Actually, I am hoping it will make you ask some more!
Posted by: Lady | 2006-06-09 12:13:52 PM
Please don't disparage Arafat. His widow just sent me an e-mail last week asking for help with her money problems. Apparently she just needs my bank account to hold millions for her just for awhile. (It seems those lousy Palestinians are trying to get the money back from her.) NOTE: Did anyone else know that Arafat's widow was Nigerian ? HA!
Posted by: MarkAlta | 2006-06-09 12:13:58 PM
Did anybody know Arafat's widow IS Christian?
Posted by: Set you free | 2006-06-09 12:25:40 PM
Mark and Set you free,
Did you know that Arafat complained his wife was worshipping a settler?
He also complained that her 5 star hotel living expenses, at $50,000 a month was reasonable, considering it kept her in France, while he practiced his real preference!
And we wonder where the Liberals got the idea on how to pay supporters back?
Posted by: Lady | 2006-06-09 12:37:02 PM
SYF: In my humble opinion, any woman who marries a Muslim terrorist is no Christian. Please don't spout that nonsense anywhere else. It tends to discredit you.
Posted by: MarkAlta | 2006-06-09 1:38:53 PM
She certainly married for money.
I think we have another term for women like that, and it is not "Lady"!
I am not going to say it, because I know I will get alot of ho-ho-ho from you guys!
Posted by: Lady | 2006-06-09 2:49:31 PM
there is no such thing as terrorist
it is a dumbing down word used now but never before by the politically correct in the west not to offend MUSLIMS who are the only ones basically doing this
not to insult the saudi leaders who in the mean time are fueling the whole thing
yjey dont mean to scare
they dont mean to terrorize
THEY MEAN TO KILL AND MAIM AS MANY AS POSSIBLE WITH EACH ACTION
"SPIRITUAL ADVISOR" GIVEMEABREAK
THESE ARE NO HARI KRISHNAS
THESE ARE SCUMMY RACIST, DIRTBAG, UNSHAVEN, SADIST MUSLIM MURDERERS
LISTEN TO THEM PRAISE THAT ZARQAWI AS A GREAT MUSLIM
LIFE HAS NO VALUE TO THOSE THAT BREED TEMSELVES LIKE RATS LIKE THEY DO THE IMMORAL PIGS WITH THEIR 25 WIVES SCOFFING AT WESTERN MORALITY
GET THE LOT OF THEM OUTTA HERE
Posted by: woodbridge | 2006-06-09 2:55:14 PM
Did anybody know Arafat's widow IS Christian?"
FACT IS HE DIED OF AIDS , WAS A FAG WHO SVEND ROBINSON PROBABLY SLEPT WITH. I MEAN BFORE THE AIDS GOT SVENDS MIND TO STEAL SOME RING HE COULD HAVE EASILY BOUGHT HIMSELF BY DOING A FEW GIGS FOR HIS BOYS.
MUSLIMS SCOFF AT WESTERN MORALITY AND CHEER BEHREADINGS AND ALLOW REAL MEN LIKE MICHAEL JACKSON TO COME LIVE IN THEIR MORAL LAND.
ARE THESE SAND MONKEYS FOR REAL?
Posted by: woodbridge | 2006-06-09 3:01:05 PM
Are you saying it's impossible for there to be any Christians in Palestine?
To deny that would discredit you.
I know for a fact Arafat attended Orthodox Christian Easter services in Jerusalem for many years with his wife.Toward the end of his life, Arafat was blocked from attending Easter services in Jerusalem by the Israeli government.
And, the wall currently being constructed would deny access to the Jerusalem church for many Palestinian Christians.
Correct terminology for a Muslim terrorist is Mohammedans (plenty of references in google), one who worships Mohammed more than Allah.
That's the point of distinction Canadian Muslims are trying to make ... that they are Muslims, not Mohammadans. Nobody in the MSM is bright enough to articulate that fact yet.
Common usage of the word Mohammedans by Middle Eastern residences now would be jihadist ie they are synonyms.
You don't have to believe me. Good luck with your research.
Posted by: Set you free | 2006-06-09 3:02:58 PM
Christians choosing the word Palestine over Israel, given the fact that they worship Jesus the JEW, makes not a lick of sense!
But then again, the term Palestine is just a polical one, intended to be used as engineered, to force the Jews and Christians off of the traditional lands.
Posted by: Lady | 2006-06-09 3:08:20 PM
Does using capital letters make you more intelligent or just paint a picture of an idiot screaming loudly?
The picture I get in my mind is the latter.
Posted by: Set you free | 2006-06-09 3:08:30 PM
In my understanding of history, after the Jewish rebellion of 70 AD, the Roman Empire rounded up all the leaders and soldiers and scattered those they did not kill to all parts of the empire.
In scripture, it is very clear Jesus warned that a violent uprising would lead to the destruction of the Temple at Jerusalem, something that did in fact happen.
Christians did not choose the world Palestine. After scattering the perpetrators of the rebellion in 70 AD, the Roman authorities renamed the lands Palestine, after the Phillistines. That was done in the hopes Jews would be so repulsed by the name they would never return.
That plan seems to have worked until about AD 1948.
Jesus was born a Jew, was circucised and preached a message of peace based on a separation of church and state in the area and was crucified in Jerusalem.
Early Christians had no dispute with any other nation, including the Samaritans and maintain the path to salvation is through connecting humanity to a natural law, not man-made political solutions. All nations were welcome to embrace this, since under God there is only one nation.
It's the nationalistic and tribal laws which have caused mankind the grief, not a pursuit of understanding man's role in with the rhythms of the natural world. It is, in fact, pure science as opposed to today's politicized science.
Posted by: Set you free | 2006-06-09 3:18:23 PM
I prefer Justin and trueweasle to woodbridge. At least they make a pretense of engaging sometimes, but woodbridge just rants in caps with a driven sort of semi-coherence.
Did you get a load of 'Hitler/Hitler Loves You' a few days ago?
You know the Shotgun gets all kinds when a Neo-Nazi/Muslim with Tourettes shows up.
Posted by: Speller | 2006-06-09 3:20:33 PM
Set You Free: You are trying to give me credit for saying something of which I did not. I never spoke of Palestinian Christians. I merely said that to call a female that would marry a Muslim terrorist a Christian does a dis-service to the term Christian. Maybe she was a church going terrorhubby loving broad, that does not make her a Christian.
Posted by: MarkAlta | 2006-06-09 3:54:59 PM
Set You Free: Attending church does not make one a Christian, anymore than attending a furniture store makes one a couch.
Posted by: MarkAlta | 2006-06-09 3:57:01 PM
Are you sure?
Who gave you the power to know what's in anybody's heart?
Posted by: Set you free | 2006-06-09 3:59:26 PM
SYF: What does being in a church have to do with what is in one's heart ? I think you've just answered your own question.
Posted by: MarkAlta | 2006-06-09 4:35:03 PM
Palestinian Christians? Why aren't there any Palestinian Jews?
Oh, I forgot, those are Israelis, the ones Hizb'allah is sworn to destroy, with the help of Iran.
Posted by: Speller | 2006-06-09 4:41:13 PM
Set you free,
I was referring to them now, rather than a couple millenias ago.
And salvation by Jesus is for Christians. And most Christians respect that there has never been a breaking of the covenant between the almighty and his people. So therefore salvation in the Christian way, was for the Christians, as interpreted by Christians, and not for the Jews.
The Jewish Messiah was prophesied to come once. And one of the the fundamentals to the arrival of the Jewish Messiah, is the fact that all sufferring will end. This has not happenned. So, although Christians claim salvation through Jesus the Jew, through devotion, Jews attain atonement and redemption through prayer and observance.
You are probably one of the smartest folks here, so I do not doubt that you will figure out where I am coming from.
Posted by: Lady | 2006-06-09 8:54:45 PM
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