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Sunday, May 28, 2006

The war at home

Canadian troops are fighting and dying in Afghanistan, in part to prevent the return of the Taliban, a minority who would impose their faith, in particular, an uncompromising brand of Islam, on an unwilling population.

Should it come as a surprise that the same fight is being fought at home?

By defiantly ending speeches with the words, "God bless Canada," [Prime Minister Stephen Harper] affirmed the sentiment expressed in our national anthem and on our coinage, and subtly but unmistakably held up a prominent middle finger to those who are trying to what might be called "atheize" the country.

They complained.

In one poll, 65% of Canadians told him to keep on doing it.

There is a battle being fought in this country against a minority who would impose their faith, in particular, an uncompromising brand of atheism, on an unwilling population.

Canadians generally are not uncomfortable about religious faith. Not deep down. But several decades of imposed atheism supported by the State (often under the guise of multiculturalism) has allowed a minority -- primarily liberal arts academia and their offspring, the media -- to cast Canada as a place where expressions of faith, especially Christian faith, is as welcome as public vomiting.

Here's an example of what they think of "God bless Canada!":

I hadn't realized until recently that Stephen Harper was using "God Bless Canada!" as a tagline for his speeches. Some may think this a harmless, or even beneficent, expression for a politician to use, but for those with knowledge of history, nothing could be a more frightening.

<snipped out all the requisite George W Bush comparisons>

Religion does not belong in public life, and Stephen Harper's efforts to drag it in says a great deal about him to those choosing to listen. This principle is as much a defense of freedom of religion as anything else: millions of Christians have been slain by other Christians over subtle differences of belief.

Religion in politics violates Canadians' traditional political civility. While God may be understood as a translation for Allah or Jehovah, the name is completely unsuitable for those embracing Buddhism or Hinduism or Humanism or no religion at all. This usage opens wounds where none need exist.

[emphasis added]

Got that? Religion is not to be seen, because it is the antithesis of civil behaviour. Note also that one problem is that Buddhists and Hindus would be offended. But then their offense would be a religious expression in of itself, would it not? Isn't being offended by someone's religious expression also a form of religious expression?

Well, Stephen Harper is one person who understands the absurdity of that position. And he won't kowtow to the absurd, no matter how many layers of postmodern bafflegab it gets wrapped up in.

But what is most interesting is that he has allies. A majority of the population who understand that suppressing religious expression is suppressing free speech. Indeed, it is probably the most precious form of free speech we enjoy -- the freedom to perceive the universe and our place in it as we see fit, and to not be embarrassed or persecuted for having and sharing that perception.

Will the forces of militant atheism ever understand that? Not likely, given that they'll never be able to separate the notion of free speech that I'm talking about from their visceral hatred of all things conservative:

"God Bless Canada" is a symbol of the coming realignment with US values. And it doesn't matter if a majority disagree with this shift. In the US, 30 per cent of the population are hard core believers who vote in large numbers and with the Republicans. No other group is so numerous and so united. While in Canada, this group is much smaller, they are getting a historic opportunity to govern as the Liberals and NDP split the shrinking center-left vote.

However, the new Conservatives aren't Tories, but smooth-talking serpents who have slithered out from underneath Prairie rocks to claim their new found dominion. Their wave has been a long time in coming, so we are finally seeing their breakthrough in this election with the United Right swamping the dying Liberal Party.

Ironically, the "smooth-talking serpent" analogy is one of the most ancient and powerful Judeo-Christian images of evil we have. I wonder of "ceti" realizes that he just offended a bunch of Buddhists and Hindus whose culture does not include the story of Genesis. Indeed the Hindus celebrate the Naga Panchami, the festival of snakes. The snake is seen as a symbol of immortality, not of duplicity and temptation.

No matter. The battle is being fought for freedom for Christians and Hindus both, and all people of faith, and it appears that the tide is turning. I expect the counterattacks to be vicious, even violent.

Posted by Steve Janke on May 28, 2006 | Permalink


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Well said, Mr. Janke. I have no delusions about the lengths to which the lefties will go to denigrate anyone or any belief that is intrinsically good. Good people without power are deemed naive bordering stupid, good people with power are deemed 'dangerous' and 'fanatical'; a danger to the elitist faux 'intellectuals' - remember the shrills shrieking at Stockwell Day about his belief in God creating life not some spore in the ocean? The Canadian people have been told by the wacko lefty pseudo intellectual crowd that subjective Psychology is in all ways superior to intellectual Philosophy or a spiritual belief in anything - unless it happens to be a belief in any form that does not include God or Jesus Christ and the values Christianity outlines in the Bible. Most of the shrills are not students of Confucius, Buddha, or Socrates and they ALWAYS assume that their audience is not informed either, the audience usually is not informed, that is why they have brainwashed so many in Canada with the 'no blame', 'no responsibility', 'no care for anyone but self', 'no respect' post Lenin Communist attitude that the Bolsheviks jambed down the throats of war torn, broken Russian people in the early twentieth century. The Bolsheviks shot, tortured, starved and marginalized Christian people in an effort to 'Modernize'. It has been a lot easier for you-know -who in Canada - just sneer and smirk them to irrelevance. Compare the media coverage of Cheryl Gallant making speeches against the slaughter of small people (not yet out of the womb babies) and the sight of Judy S'crow (spelled the way it sounds), marching around with a bunch of 'stripper-gate' types defending righteously the rights of females to conceive an independent person, then kill that person if they didnt feel like 'ruining their figure' (adoption is never mentioned as an option to abortion). I say God Bless Stephen Harper. He is making me feel proud of my country. I am getting used to supporting my own country and what we do in the world. I have not been proud of Canada since 1966 - I have been proud of the Western end of Canada many times but of the nation run with the commie spin of the Liberano/Dipper crowd - I hung my head in shame and despair and looked to the U.S.A. for a ray of hope. I cheered for President Reagan and President George W Bush from my heart, as I am now cheering for Prime Minister Stephen Harper. They all answer to God and do not think that they,themselves, are a god of some sort. I still cringe when I remember paule 'smudging' UGH!!

Posted by: jema54j | 2006-05-28 12:23:42 PM

I suggest the Lord has answered our prayers for our country. Let us keep praying.

Has anyone seen what happened in Moscow for perverted peopl wanting to get public approval?

There is a law to be debated in the Congress of US to clearly define marriage between one man and one woman. I certainly hope a similar law will eventually be passed in Canada.

Posted by: Rémi Houle | 2006-05-28 12:52:34 PM

"millions of Christians have been slain by other Christians over subtle differences of belief."

Since when? Examples. If you're referring to Ireland it was about being excluded from power because of one's religion.

This person doesn't know squat about DHIMMINITUDE.

OTOH perhaps the best way to support a dark ages religion is to live in the dark ages.

Posted by: Terry Gain | 2006-05-28 12:57:32 PM

Socialists have become secular extremists for a reason.

They have been able to disguise their religion of Marxism as a non-religion. But in fact it is very much like a religion with its high priests, like Moe Strong, at the transnational-temples of the UN, the EU. They take their Kommunion with Kyoto Kool-aid. As a religion it has no intentions of separating church and state. Government and religion are one and the same in the Marxist church/state.

Similarly, Islamofascism does not believe in the separation of mosque and state.

That’s why the socialists and Islamofascists have been able to partner. They are neither one secular. Also both are movements that aspire to global power.

Also that’s why the socialists fear the so-called religious right. Because the reformed Christian religion has indeed separated church and state. Furthermore it has utilized “reason” to embrace capitalism. That’s why a very religious country like the US is also very capitalistic. Capitalism and reformed Christianity, which in fact advocates the separation of church and state, has proven to be a very successful economic model. The Marxists fear that model like a vampire fears a cross.

Beware of secular extremists dressed in sheep’s clothing. Here endith the first lesson and begynnth the crusades between the Marxist and the secular Christian Capitalists … :>)

Posted by: nomdenet | 2006-05-28 1:00:13 PM

So who is this Chuckman ? No one of importance, I'm guessing.

Posted by: MarkAlta | 2006-05-28 1:30:20 PM

Jesus approves of Harper.


Posted by: John | 2006-05-28 1:35:49 PM

I wonder if those who attack Harper for mentioning God in his speeches stopped using American dollars. After all, they contain a slogan "in God we trust".

I remember an article re issue in National Post. I don't remember the name of a journalist, but I clearly remember that it was just plain insulting for people who are religious. My first reaction was 'what an asshole!". If it was for me, I would stop subscribing to a newspaper which publishes that sort of stuff right there. Later they published letters from the readers which basically shared my view of that article. I could not believe that some people in Canada are full of such hatred towards religion and religious people - and they are journalists who are supposed to be open and fair about everything!

Posted by: Acer | 2006-05-28 2:53:01 PM


Am I to conclude then, that you don't mind State endorsed religion, so long as it is Christianity that is being endorsed?

When Stephen Harper speaks, it is as the top representative of the Government of Canada. His "God Bless Canada" cannot be seen as simply a statement of personal beliefs -- as head of the country, he speaks for the country. This, in no way, is preventing him from practicing his religious beliefs -- there is no dictate for Christians to end speeches with "God Bless our Nation."

I suppose my question is, if we had a Muslim Prime Minister, would you also support him ending his talks with "Allahu Akhbar, Allah bless Canada"? Or, if that isn't "historical" enough for you, would you mind if we had an Indigenous Canadian who was Prime Minister who started and ended each speech with a sweetgrass ceremony?

Posted by: Bob | 2006-05-28 3:25:52 PM

Liberal universities run by communists have spoiled the present slate of journalists and reporters.

They cannot think for themselves, so when some change starts to happen, they simply cannot handle it. So far we have seen them get angry and walk out of the PM. They use their media to spout their frustrations just like the whiners that they are.

Somebody moved their cheese!

They are babies in world that is becoming increasingly a place for adults.

We must all learn to piss with the big dogs or we are doomed.

The no-God no-guilt blanket has been pulled off and the cold shiver of reality is sending a chill through the cozy world of the left. The heavy collectivist spending is waning as well.

I don't know anyone who wants to continue the mulitcultural policies of Canada and I don't know anyone who cares about those po' natives anymore either. The complete failure of the bilingualisation of Canada and of the use of the metric system, are all like the gun registry, bloated, tired, expensive, useless.

All those Trudearuesque experiments in the big nanny state mosaic are over. We need a culture that we can define, be proud of and defend. It can't hurt to have a god to bless it too.

The changes in the pecking order at the PPG is just another sign that things are different now.

No matter how much they protest and deny, the press corp for the most part hate the right, hate Harper and his government. They are dead wrong to do so, since it was their pet politicians on the left who are responsible for the degradation we see in every are of life in Canada.

The pain I see on Keith Boag's face lately is pure gold.

Go Stephen! You are making a lot of us proud.

Posted by: John | 2006-05-28 3:41:19 PM

Now *that* is a funny post.

Universities are run by "communists", the metric system is an evil waste of money.

Hyperbole is such an effective strategy of argument.

Posted by: Wilson | 2006-05-28 3:46:04 PM


This is a Christain country not a Muslim country, nor does it belong to the Sweet Grass gang. If the Prime Minister of Canada wants to say God Bless Canada publicly, it's his prerogative. I have no problem with, nor does the vast majority of Canadians. It won't stop you from getting your next hamgburger or blowjob, so don't worry about it. It makes some of us feel better about being in Canada.

If a muslim becomes Prime Minister in Canada, it means we will have lost the war on terror.

The Sweet Grass gang has not hope of anything but hand-outs under their present system of self govenment and complete acquiessance to the philosopy of victimhood.

Posted by: John | 2006-05-28 3:48:15 PM


Now *you* are a useful naive idiot.

Posted by: John | 2006-05-28 3:49:29 PM

I hope I don't offend anyone when I say: "May God keep our land glorious and free?"

Posted by: HJD | 2006-05-28 3:52:57 PM

If a muslim becomes Prime Minister in Canada, it means we will have lost the war on terror.

I wonder if Edmonton Strathcona Conservative MP Rahim Jaffer shares your perspective . . .

Posted by: Bob | 2006-05-28 3:53:59 PM


the metric system is not really being used in Canada. It was that fuck, trudeau's idea of aligning ourselves with Europe over the USA and that has not happened and cannot happen.

Our entire infrastructure is in the American system and that has not changed. We still by 2x4's and 4x8s and most Grocery stores still sell food by the pound and ounce even though they are forced to list the metric equivilents. We cannot change our infrastructure because it's simply unaffordable to do so and there is no point.

What is done in metric are things that don't matter like the temperature or a litre of milk. How many MPG does your car get?

85% of our ecomonic trade is with that old inches and feet USA and that won't change either. It's was a dream that we could change those fundamentals and only a really warped PM Could have dreamed it up and a really stupid mesmerized poplulation was required to make it happen. The stars aligned long enough for that horror to occur and we are still reeling from it.

The changes are starting to come about now, so let's hope we don't get too stupid again too soon.

Posted by: John | 2006-05-28 3:58:45 PM

Way to stay on topic John.

So, if Rahim Jaffer takes a run at the CPC Leadership then we have lost the war on terror? And if he, as a Prime Minster were to praise Allah at the end of his speeches it would be wrong?

Posted by: Bob | 2006-05-28 4:13:56 PM

Bob, I went to Rahim Jaffer's website and nowhere does it say he is a muslim.


An exerpt:
Rahim Jaffer is a 34-year-old entrepreneur from the Old Strathcona district of Edmonton. The Jaffer family came to Canada to escape persecution in Uganda when Rahim was only a child. The government of Idi Amin confiscated their business and their home and sent them as penniless refugees to a new country.

Rahim Jaffer's family were expelled from Uganda by Idi Amin, a cannibal and a muslim. I really do wonder what his perspective on Islam is?

An exerpt:
On August 4, 1972, Amin gave Uganda's 50,000 Asians (mainly of Indian origin) 90 days to leave the country, following an alleged dream in which, he claimed, God told him to expel them.

Posted by: Speller | 2006-05-28 4:16:39 PM

Since you like Wikipedia, how about checking Jaffer's bio:


In it, it states: "Jaffer is a Muslim of the Ismaili faith, and was the only Muslim member of the Canadian House of Commons from 2000 to 2004."

But with views like John's, I can see why he wouldn't advertise it on his CPC webpage.

Posted by: Bob | 2006-05-28 4:18:58 PM

Well I must say I agree with John's point of veiw then, and I think more Edmontonians need to know Jaffer is a muslim.

Posted by: Speller | 2006-05-28 4:27:17 PM

"Well I must say I agree with John's point of veiw then, and I think more Edmontonians need to know Jaffer is a muslim.".

Wow! You're kidding, right? So much for the land of freedom and opportunity.

Posted by: Bob | 2006-05-28 4:33:09 PM

I suppose you don't know the Koran says that muslims can only live in Dar al Harb for the purpose of Jihad.

I want freedom and opportunity. I know followers of Islam don't. Islam means surrender, doncha know?

Posted by: Speller | 2006-05-28 4:42:03 PM

Canada needs all the blessings it can get. Thank you, Stephen Harper.


Posted by: RightGirl | 2006-05-28 5:00:59 PM


Will the views of John and Speller allow you to at least admit that it isn't just the "militant atheists" or "liberal arts academia and their offspring, the media" who are the problem?

Like you, I "expect the counterattacks to be vicious, even violent."

But I guess I'm just not as sure as you about where those attacks will come from . . .

Posted by: Bob | 2006-05-28 5:01:59 PM

"But I guess I'm just not as sure as you about where those attacks will come from . . . "
Posted by: Bob

I guess you really don't know, do you Bob? You're a 9/10 person with your head in the clouds and rose colored glasses on.
Willful ignorance.

If muslims just want freedom and opportunity like the Christians who created nations that actually allow them to realize these blessings, then why don't they quit Islam?(hint: death to x-muslims)
Or is there an Islamic country out there somewhere that is a liberal democracy?

Posted by: Speller | 2006-05-28 5:13:39 PM

It has been tough to post since my daughter spilled pop on the keyboard.

Nonethless, the concept of separation of church and state is a purely Christian idea, first articulated in the “render unto Caesar what is Caesars, render unto God what is God's.''

The answer was a response by Jesus to the Sanhedrin (now, if Jesus were not a Jew, why do you suppose the Sanhedrin held any sway over him?).

Taken in that context, the church (or more properly the temple since Christians respect the Jewish covenant with God) is no way can be interpreted as a rival to the state.

Rather, the basis of the answer dealt with a reality of two entirely separate realms.

Therefore, the concept of separation of church and state was meant as a protection of church (or in that specific case 2000 years ago the Jewish temple).

Until 1778, when the US constitution was framed, the concept rarely existed in a practical sense.

Having come for European countries where they were persecuted for not towing the line of offical state religions, the original settlers framed protections for believes of all religions to be protected from the oft-time vile manipulations of the state/offical religion cabal.

Yet, somehow secular humanism has became a stealth religion and the created religion of the state has once again been used to control the populace and persecute those who do not agree with it.

That's in direct opposition to the Christian ethos, which teaches that no other human being has ultimate power over another and it's this freedom of choice between the good of the heavenly kingdom and the inherent evil of the earth (Satan's realm) that defines every human experience.

OK, that's enough for now.

Posted by: Set you free | 2006-05-28 5:15:49 PM

Yet another non-issue. You can mention God all you want but this won't shut down the abortion mills and will not repeal gay marriage. Is the Canadian government doing God's work?

Posted by: Howard Roark | 2006-05-28 6:13:09 PM

Bob for apples said ... "So, if Rahim Jaffer takes a run at the CPC Leadership then we have lost the war on terror? And if he, as a Prime Minster were to praise Allah at the end of his speeches it would be wrong?"
Yes, that would be wrong. This is not a muslim country. I might consider accepting an 'Allah Bless Canada' about the same time I hear a Christian leader of a Muslim country get away with " God Bless Iran or Iraq or Syria" or whatever Muslim country you prefer.

Jaffer is very likely a Muslim in the same way Paul Martin is a Christain, In name only. He is very unlikely to become the leader of a major party and I doubt he would waste his time trying.

Don't forget this is the guy who had his first mate or press secretary (Sorry, I don't recal the details) pretend to be him in a phone interview because he was somewhere else and apparently forgot to be avaiable for the interview.

He got away with it because he isn't very

It's not a big deal that there is a Muslim in Parliament, after all, there are many communists in our government too and they are equally objectionable.

Posted by: John | 2006-05-28 6:14:48 PM

So much for Steve's conclusion:

"No matter. The battle is being fought for freedom for Christians and Hindus both, and all people of faith, and it appears that the tide is turning."

The comments here reveal that this is nothing more than a battle being fought for freedom of Christians. Period.

Posted by: Wilson | 2006-05-28 6:19:52 PM

"I might consider accepting an 'Allah Bless Canada' about the same time I hear a Christian leader of a Muslim country get away with " God Bless Iran or Iraq or Syria" or whatever Muslim country you prefer."

I see. So you want our freedoms in Canada to be defined on the basis of their acceptability in Iran, Iraq, or Syria? That seems sort of backwards to me, considering that we are currently in those countries trying to help people there achieve the freedoms we have here . . .

"Jaffer is very likely a Muslim in the same way Paul Martin is a Christain, In name only. He is very unlikely to become the leader of a major party and I doubt he would waste his time trying."

Oh, I see. So he isn't a *real* Muslim so he is okay -- so long as he doesn't try to become leader.

"It's not a big deal that there is a Muslim in Parliament, after all, there are many communists in our government too and they are equally objectionable."

Wow, with friends like these, I can really understand why Jaffer likes being associated with the CPC.

Posted by: Bob | 2006-05-28 6:25:25 PM


You don't actually understand much.

Posted by: John | 2006-05-28 6:29:27 PM

"Don't forget this is the guy who had his first mate or press secretary (Sorry, I don't recal the details) pretend to be him in a phone interview because he was somewhere else and apparently forgot to be avaiable for the interview."

Hey John. You do know that his "first mate" was none other than Ezra Levant. You know, the editor of the Western Standard. The guy who provides you with this forum to spout off your nonsense . . .

Posted by: Bob | 2006-05-28 6:36:30 PM

The arrival of the Ismaili muslims expelled from Africa was one of the greatest and most positive things that ever happened under Canada's immigration policies. True, they are "muslims" but they have almost nothing in common with the Shi'ites, Sunnis, Wahabis etc. I've known a lot of Ismailis over the years and they're all good-natured hard-working healthy happy members of the community. They believe in modern education and fitting into Canadian society and are, to me, the perfect example of successful multicultural integration. I have tremendous affection and respect for the many Ismailis I have gotten to know. I know there's a general consensus that the 'moderate muslim' seems to be missing in action but I would suggest the Ismailis personify the term. They have no reason to speak out on the jihadists, they have no association with them whatsoever, they differ as much as Protestant and Catholic and tongue-jabbering snake-handling fundamentalist and Eastern Orthodox Christians.

Posted by: calgarian | 2006-05-28 6:51:45 PM

Let's not forget what is carved IN STONE above the Parliament Buildings "He shall have dominion from sea to sea". One of the most prophetic acts done by our Canadian forebears, a testimony and a witness that would be gladly erased in a whiff if secular liberals and leftists could get their hands on it. The Lordship of Jesus Christ is intricately bound up in Canada's past, present, and future. He shall have dominion -- from sea to sea.

Posted by: Richard Ball | 2006-05-28 9:29:46 PM

The question, calgarian, is what they(the Ismaili) have in common with the cult leader Muhammed.
Muhammed was a VERY BAD GUY. A real reprobate.

Paedophile: Check
Murderer: Check
Rapist: Check
Brigand: Check
Truce breaker: Check

It seems, calgarian, that WHO Muhammed was, as a living example of Islam, is always ignored and underestimated by people like you.

Posted by: Speller | 2006-05-28 10:49:28 PM

That looks just like the checklist of criminal charges laid against the living example Roman Catholic priests over the last decade.

Posted by: Wilson | 2006-05-28 11:04:00 PM


You have so unwittingly shattered the aspirations for Canada that Steve outlined in the final paragraph of his original post that it is somewhat depressing.

What is more depressing is that--I fear--you actually think that you and he are arguing from the same side.

Posted by: Bob | 2006-05-28 11:17:03 PM

No, Bob, Steve and I are NOT on the same side.

I am not even on Canada’s side. I am an Alberta nationalist.

I do NOT believe, as Steve does, that the Taliban is a ‘minority’ ‘imposing’ it’s belief on others in Afghanistan.

The Taliban are representative of the Pashtun MAJORITY in Afghanistan and that is why they still exist after 5 years of anti-guerrilla warfare against the Western Powers arrayed against them.

The US installed government is ruling under 10% Afghanistan, with Sharia law.

Most of the country is ruled by muslim warlords.

The principal export is still opium poppy.

This is different from the Taliban how?

Steve doesn’t know shiite about the situation there.

Guerrillas can only survive in these sorts of conditions if they have popular support from the civilians in the area + patronage from a bordering State.(Pakistan)

In Che Guevara’s book ‘Guerrilla Warfare’ he states that the guerrillas cannot survive without both popular support and patronage from a bordering State. These are absolute prerequisites.
Che didn’t have them in Bolivia and he was killed very quickly.

Posted by: Speller | 2006-05-29 12:22:23 AM

And the Truth shall set you free.

A tally list of the historical facts and conduct of Islam's soi-disant "prophet" does indeed confirm quite unpalatable qualities which we in the West regard as unacceptable and uncivilised. That is just the point when reference is made to Christians who behave similarly: we acknowledge and judge that their behaviour is wrong quite simply because it violates the fundamental precepts of Christian doctrine. Christ is the living example of our faith. Muhammed's behaviour must be judged as the example of Islam since his followers venerate him, and him ALONE, as the Ultimate Prophet. We must conclude, therefore, that Moslems see in Mohammed their ideal of Man. By their fruits ye shall know them...

Posted by: Katherine | 2006-05-29 12:32:41 AM

"No, Bob, Steve and I are NOT on the same side."

I'm sure he will be relieved to hear that.

Posted by: Bob | 2006-05-29 12:59:29 AM


Canadian charter of rights and freedoms

Whereas Canada is founded upon principles that recognize the supremacy of GOD and the rule of law:

Kind of says it all; emphasis added.

Posted by: Mike | 2006-05-29 6:21:14 AM

Yes, Bob, too bad your judgement is so off about, well,... everything.

Maybe Steve is relieved to know someone like you, Bob, cares so much about him.

Posted by: Speller | 2006-05-29 8:47:26 AM

Bob: Ezra Levant was not Rahim's "radio double", for your info.

Posted by: MarkAlta | 2006-05-29 8:54:35 AM

Bob: Ezra Levant was not Rahim's "radio double", for your info.

You're right. My apologies. It was Matthew Johnston. Ezra was only the Aliance Director of Communications if I'm not mistaken.

Posted by: Bob | 2006-05-29 9:52:46 AM

If you're not mistaken, Bob?
Or is that unwitting?
Why care about mistakes now? People can't possibly think you're incredible.(as in not credible)

You're too busy caring about Steve, remember? Is that a relief or what?

Posted by: Speller | 2006-05-29 12:41:05 PM

I can't believe how many people can get offended by our Prime Minister using "God Bless Canada." Wow how evil and insideous is this character? I mean people all over the world must get really riled up when they hear "God Bless the Queen."

Does anyone understand that this country was founded on a Christian based platform, all our laws stem from the Bible, even our Constitutional Rights are based off of Biblical beliefs. Have we just become stupid over the years or is it something worse?

Lets face it political correctness is a huge problem, on the surface it's all about fairness and making evryone feel good about themselves, but is it really? I think not, it has proven time and time again that it is nothing more than institutionalzed censorship. We on the surface have freedom of speech, but if you question anything out of the touchy feely zone you are considered a hater and could even face jail for it. Are you for abortion, gay marriage, atheism you are enlightened. Do you question any of these things you must be shut down, your voice does not need to be heard, and unfortunately Christians fall into this category in Canada.

All I can say is its about time someone stops apologizing for being Canadian and lets the world know. If only we can get back to saying Merry Christmas instead of Seasons Greetings, wow I can only imagine the uproar then.

I'm posting a link to a good article Denis Prager wrote of what it takes to be a leftist these days, I think some of you might really enjoy it, and I know some will REALLY HATE IT!



Posted by: niv | 2006-05-29 1:40:19 PM

I think this discussion points out the potential importance of the freely elected civil government of Iraq. I'm sad to say that I don't think they will get enough time under American military protection to actually survive and thus deliver the promise which I hope is their potential (Bush's foolish illegal immigration program will lose the Republican congressional mojorities in November 2006, and in December 2006 the US military will leave Iraq, and by January 2007 all members of Iraq's new government will be murdered - but so much for peripheral matters; at least Bush will be assured of 100% popularity poll numbers among the illegal aliens from Mexico).

It would have been interesting to see how those guys reconciled their religion of peace and a freely elected government, which "had to" respect rights of minorities (e.g. seeing as how those guys would all realize that only get to keep their tongues out of the tree shredder because the American military stayed there until they got their dumb ass act together).

Oh well, maybe next time.

Posted by: Conrad-USA | 2006-05-29 1:54:25 PM

Conrad, I know you hate the GOP for not solving an immigration problem that’s been growing for 50 years. If I didn’t think the whole world would be screwed by whatever dummies the Dims put in
– Al Gore and Nancy Polozi?
I would hope to see the GOP lose just so that you libertarians can get a taste of what real socialists are like again. Haven’t you had enough of a glimpse at Canada to get the idea?

So I can only pray that you “mad as hell not gonna take it any more” anti-GOP types can get a grip on yourselves before 2006.

You can say it’s none of my business. I will tell you that it is because Washington is the only police station in a crime-ridden world and that is my business too. Meanwhile stop watching Lou Dobbs.

In short, if America is stupid enough to let an immigration problem of 12 million hard working (illegal) people get in the way of fighting Islamofascism, then maybe America is as dumb as Michael Moore says it is.

Posted by: nomdenet | 2006-05-29 2:33:13 PM

Hey guys, this is for anyone wanting to check out the link attached to my posting. Sorry I should have mentioned once there, click on "Harry Reid and the end of Liberal thought." That was the article I was trying to point you to.


Posted by: niv | 2006-05-29 3:15:35 PM


Welcome aboard.

Thanks for yet another Orthodox link others can go to.

Posted by: Set you free | 2006-05-29 3:56:33 PM


Immigration and the war against Islam are neither exclusive nor intrinsically linked.

I do think, though, that you may be as dumb as Mike al-Moor says America is.

Posted by: Speller | 2006-05-29 4:48:08 PM

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