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Friday, May 19, 2006

Remember when Canada was revered as the conscience of the world?

Well, get ready for a comeback.  Stephen Harper is restoring the reputation of the Great White North with remarkable speed (ninth item).

Posted by D.J. McGuire on May 19, 2006 in Canadian Politics, International Affairs | Permalink


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I thought we were just known as the side with the soldiers you didn't want to mess with until the Liberals buggered up the military and turned them into traffic cops...

Posted by: Warwick | 2006-05-19 12:44:41 PM

I hear the oilfields are hiring a few people too...

Posted by: Warwick | 2006-05-19 12:55:49 PM

Remember when Canada was revered as the conscience of the world?

Is that like the NDP being considered the conscience of Parliament?

Who comes up with this guff anyhow? Failed advertising execs?

Posted by: Speller | 2006-05-19 1:14:35 PM

Was there ever a time Canadians were short, sweet and to the point?

Even I'm getting way too wordy on some of my posts.


Traffic cops? More like Lord Baden-Powell on acid.

I only earned two Boy Scout badges, but that's only cause I didn't go for it.

Posted by: Set you free | 2006-05-20 1:50:07 AM

Harper wants to withdraw from Kyoto - unconscionable. Canada was pushing for a global ban on small arms trafficking but then Harper's *public*safety* minister moves to unregister rifles. Goodbye international reputation.

Posted by: Mike Jones | 2006-05-20 4:29:30 PM


I'm sure you're just trying to incite debate from a position of willful ignorance.

Riddle me this. If Canada sends billions of your dollars to Russia, how does that make the air cleaner?

Riddle me this on guns. How are weapons primarily used for pest control in rural areas of Canada a danger to anybody, give or take the odd gopher?

BTW. Have you ever seen a gopher, urban dweller?

Better luck next time.

Posted by: Set you free | 2006-05-20 5:00:13 PM

PS on Kyoto e:

Anything Maurice Strong disagees with is just fine with me.

Posted by: Set you free | 2006-05-20 5:02:51 PM

Man, there should be some kind of voluntary moratorium on using the Boy Scouts as a negative benchmark. That's something Canada needs more of (I mean the Boy Scouts, not moratoriums on stuff).

Posted by: Jim in Toronto | 2006-05-20 5:37:52 PM


I happen to have loved the time I spent in Boy Scouts.

Still, there was no badge available for peacemaking.

Soldiers lose their lives unneccessarily when no compromise is possible.

With Islamic nations, compromise is not possible since it is not part of their vocabulary. It's total submission, obedience ... whatever the six qualities that comprise the word Islam.

It is their duty, yes their duty, to be jihadists.

Can't send Boy Scouts to make peace in a place where peace is unwelcome and egotistical battles of earthly power rule the day.

Posted by: Set you free | 2006-05-20 6:21:00 PM

Harper and Ambrose should be given the highest awards for their protection of the jobs of ordinary people. Kyoto was a scam supported by anti-capitalists in Greenpeace and the Green Party who have utter and absolute contempt for the human race. Rejecting Kyoto places the cure for global warming back into the hands of ordinary people, not the privileged, anti-democratic, anti-capitalist elite. This is a victory for the people.

Posted by: Scott | 2006-05-20 7:02:37 PM

Well said Scott.

Posted by: jema54j | 2006-05-21 2:31:35 AM

Read some of the Globe and Mail's talkback section - they're "disgusted" and "ashamed" that Harper did this. Apparently they think he's just a Bush lackey, like John Howard, and not someone who saw that Kyoto was a enormously flawed and ultimately useless response to global warming. One writer said that Harper was a hypocrite for holding international commitments in Afghanistan but not Kyoto. Pathetic.

Simply put, the costs of Kyoto would have destroyed any government that implemented it. The huge money exports would have drained away funding for other programs, or raised taxes enough to scare away jobs. The voters would have responded with vengeance. We saw this with the destruction of the Conservatives in 1993 over the GST. Kyoto would have done the same. Harper acted, therefore, out of common sense = something no Liebral or NDP or Green could ever have. They're the ones slavishly devoted to external forces.

Posted by: Scott | 2006-05-21 7:13:57 AM


Big government fans also seem to like big unelected international institutions ... that's the source of the hypocricy charge.

Since Harper is in favour of neither, he cannot be judged on terms which the activists use to define him.

Geological records have proven without a shadow of doube there was a period in the middle ages where the average global temperature is 1.5 degree higher than it was today ... yet not too mny people drove the ‘evil' gas-guzzling SUVs in those days. At least that's what historical records show.

If all the signatories to Kyoto would shut down their respective economie, letting China and India spew to their smokestack's content ()Hey, wait a minute, that's what's happening now), the net difference would by 0.2 of a degree.

And, although nobody would confuse me with Albert Einstein, that would mean the earth would be 1.7 degrees cooler than it was in the middle ages.

All I can figure out is those dinosaur farts sure must have had a long residual effect.

It's all about political control of the ignorant through fear-mongering.

I have two words for the Kyotohalics: Fear This!

Posted by: Set you free | 2006-05-21 2:51:47 PM

Set You Free:

You are quite correct to point out that this is fear-mongering. Like you and I, most people are not ecological scientists who can evaluate the global warming case. But I can evaluate Kyoto as an international agreement. It stinks on every level, from the purchasing of "carbon credits" to the dispersal of those funds to unreliable and irresponsible dictatorships in the developing world. It quite frankly is a total waste of money that will not cure global warming, but it will get international acceptance because it means transfering money from the rich nations to the poor ones.

I guess this is the old "If everyone jumped off a cliff, you would too" cliche. Harper and Ambrose saw the danger and withdrew from the treaty. They deserve to be commended for their intelligence and clarity of thought. Layton, the Liebral Party, and the Green Party deserve to be condemned for their fealty to a flawed idea whose costs could have ruined everything. Did they ever think of what could happen to Medicare funding? Or worse (for them) the CBC!

Posted by: Scott | 2006-05-21 4:15:05 PM


Ya. I can hear it now.

Since we have to send 93 gazillion and our firstborn to Bono Newlando (the New Land of Bono), we have no money left for the medicare and the CBC.

Since the CBC so well articulates our culture of suffering, they would not be on the chopping block because ... well, who else would be out there to articulate our victimhood.

Medicare, shmedicare.

Posted by: Set you free | 2006-05-21 6:15:39 PM

Set You Free:

It gets worse. The CBC will lament the sagging economic performance but blame it on (in no particular order), America, capitalism, and right-wing policies. Anything but the UN or Kyoto. Apparently Canadians can't govern themselves or come up with "made-in-Canada" policies. The hypocrisy never ends.

However, by then Alberta will be the 51st State and as prosperous and happy as ever.

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