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Friday, March 24, 2006

Can People Really be so Stupid? III

Commenting on the removal of 24 maple trees from the 2800-block of Yale Street in east Vancouver, Josie Padro is quoted in today's Vancouver Sun as saying, "I feel like there was mass murder in my neighbourhood."

Posted by Terry O'Neill on March 24, 2006 in Current Affairs | Permalink


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I have observed that most people are that stupid.
The question should be are there any smart people around?
The answer is yes, but not a hell of a lot of them.
The problem is that most people today went to government schools and were taught not to think.
So like what do expect?

Posted by: Duke McGoo | 2006-03-24 12:04:18 PM

The key word is 'feel', for whenever someone begins with 'I feel....' you can usually expect that the person is ruled by emotion rather than facts and reason. In such cases all proper use and meaning of language flies out the window, and they lose all credibility. In this case using the term 'mass murder'.

I am neither for nor against the cutting of these trees, especially since I do not know the facts. Still an intelligent person would be able to support or oppose the act with an intelligent argument instead of 'I feel...'

Posted by: Alain | 2006-03-24 12:28:23 PM

Albert Einstein: "There are two thing I know to be infinite - the universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the universe."

[I quote from memory so it may not be the exact wording.]

Posted by: Warwick | 2006-03-24 12:39:10 PM

There is a mass slaughter of innocent human life going on in Abortion Clinics and this guy is talking about the "mass murder" of "trees!" If people really want to see the victims of "mass murder" go to http://wwww.AbortionNo.org.

Posted by: Stephen Gray | 2006-03-24 12:44:02 PM

The victims of "mass murder" can be seen at http://www.AbortionNo.org I put an extra w in the last message I posted for that site.

Posted by: Stephen | 2006-03-24 12:48:56 PM

"There's a sucker born every minute." David Hannum


Posted by: Speller | 2006-03-24 12:51:38 PM

Given the shrill, overheated bleatings that emanate from this board (and from the posters on this topic in particular), it seems an odd place to take someone to task for hyperbole (especially since, unlike you lot, that person had no say in which of their comments appeared in print). But then I guess you guys have to take your fun where you can find it.

Posted by: truewest | 2006-03-24 12:56:14 PM

Can People Really be so Stupid? IV

"There is a mass slaughter of innocent human life going on in Abortion Clinics...."

Posted by: Stephen Gray | 24-Mar-06 12:44:02 PM

Posted by: Mark Logan | 2006-03-24 12:58:38 PM

"Given the shrill, overheated bleatings that emanate from this me (and from me on this topic in particular), it seems an odd place to take someone to task for hyperbole (especially since, unlike me, that person had no say in which of their comments appeared in print). But then I guess I have to take my fun where I can find it."
Posted by: trueweasel

Posted by: Speller | 2006-03-24 1:02:46 PM

Give Ms. Padro a break: she's merely pining for the loss of fellow deadwood.

Posted by: Paul Canniff | 2006-03-24 1:07:09 PM

C'mo neh .. trees have rights ... everything has rights. I am not sure where these rights are printed on government documents, but I feel they should have rights ... they are alive ... life is precious, unless it's an unborn uh baby?
I am so confused ...

Posted by: Duke McGoo | 2006-03-24 1:25:28 PM

What a clever boy! You learn that trick in elementary school? More to the point, did you graduate?

Posted by: truewest | 2006-03-24 1:29:15 PM


Are you an academic? If so, that would explain you.

Posted by: Duke McGoo | 2006-03-24 1:31:19 PM

Oh, by all means, let's cut down all the trees that are blocking someone's view!

Trees -- especially deciduous trees -- are just messy nuisances after all, dropping their damned leaves anywhere they feel like it. They ought to be charged with littering...which, in the case of trees, could be a capital offense.

We certainly don't need their air-filtering and regenerating. We're getting to be very good at breathing smog.

And we don't need the shade, either. You're not supposed to be able to escape from incipient sunburn...or the possible case of skin cancer you can get from repeated exposure to the rays of the sun. If god wanted you to be free from the sun, you would have been born with a built-in parasol.

Concrete is less likely to do anything inconvenient, like change colors with the seasons, prompting spurts of bad poetry or feverish collection of flame-colored leaves by another irritant: children.

Yes, let's get rid of all the trees.

And soon after, all the people will go away, too, having suffocated from lack of clean air to breathe.

After all, while those people are still alive, their view that those trees were blocking is much more important.

Posted by: Chimera | 2006-03-24 1:36:57 PM


Posted by: PGP | 2006-03-24 2:24:54 PM

What a clever toy! I turned some tricks in elementary school! More to the point, did I graduate?"
Posted by: trueweasel

So fun.

Posted by: Speller | 2006-03-24 2:27:30 PM

No, I'm not an academic. Although ET is, which perhaps explains her. As for Speller -- well, let's leave him to his favorite pursuits, which apparently involve rolling his snot into balls and flinging them at passersby.

Posted by: truewest | 2006-03-24 3:01:01 PM

Nice imagery, trueweasel, you talk like you're experienced.

I think you're getting overheated in a shrill sort of way. I don't know why, if you have so much contempt for so many at the Shotgun Blog, you bother to post at all.

Posted by: Speller | 2006-03-24 3:19:51 PM

True Pest,

You are indeed a leftie with all the imagination of a person who wastes no time on fact or logic, but rather, snot balls. Nice.

ET may be long winded, but at least there is a brain behind the commentary.

More than I can say for you.

Posted by: Duke | 2006-03-24 3:50:50 PM

I post here to provide counterpoint to the endless drone of agreement, which otherwise would be interrupted only when they Crazy Christians do battle with the Libertarian Atheists. Really, I figure I'm performing a public service -- save, of course, when I'm replying to your inane name-calling -- by pointing out the glaring weaknesses in your arguments. Not that I expect thanks.
Glad you noticed ET was long-winded. Next, maybe you'll notice that's she's also shaky on the facts and can't tell the difference between her opinion and reality.

Posted by: truewest | 2006-03-24 3:57:36 PM

Mark Logan-

Millions not 'mass' enough for you? or perhaps FOR YOU the babies really do not mean more than trees.

Posted by: lwestin | 2006-03-24 4:02:38 PM

Oh come on. Call it what it is. An Arborcaust.

Posted by: greenmamba | 2006-03-24 4:44:47 PM


Arborcaust for trees
Abortcaust for babies
Realitycaust for Lefties

Reality is always a horror for moonbats. It makes them 'uncomfortable'. The warmth and comfort of the socialist dreamscape is alway more desireable. However, it is lethal in the end ... can you say Cuba, Soviet Union, North Korea, China? Death of the human spirit is still lethal to a society.

Socialism ... "economic and cultural suicide is slo-mo"

Just babbling on here. I dont' even remember if I am on topic. It's Friday afternoon, I am almost finished minding the store for the week and I couldn't shut down without a parting shot.

Posted by: Duke McGoo | 2006-03-24 5:10:49 PM

well if Chimera is right, then removing 24 trees means we all asphyxiate as it's tantamount to removing all of them. We are due for skin cancer, pollution and other perils of treeless life.

Keep a sense of porportion. This is not clear cutting a forest, which btw is not necessarily a bad thing.

Patrick Moore long time environmentalist, and scientist reversed his position years ago, explaining why clear cuts have merits for the bears, bunnies and other wildlife even if they are ugly.

And speaking from the bug kill zones in interior BC, I must say that the environmentalists rhetoric contributed to the problem.

The screaming fits the environmentally aware and scientifically illiterate throw whenever trees are cut create a climate of fear and inaction when action was needed. Like a few years back. Now it's too late.

Clear cuts prevent spruce bud worm and mountain pine beetle from moving thru entire forests.

So excuse me while I don't weep for the maples. Welcome to the denuded landscape of BC forests thanks to misguided environmentalists stopping clear cuts.

Posted by: Canadian freedoms fan | 2006-03-24 5:18:56 PM

I'd thank you truewest, it's just that there is a WAR on, and you are giving AIDE and COMFORT to the ENEMY, you egotistic selfcentered little crap-weasel.

Posted by: Speller | 2006-03-24 6:24:44 PM

That such a compelling argument: we're at WAR (which, incidentally, will last forever) so any disagreement with our position is offering
AID and COMFORT to the ENEMY (which is conveniently undefined.)
You can't be serious.

Posted by: truewest | 2006-03-24 9:01:50 PM

Are they really that stupid - or do they think we're that stupid? I've asked that question for years - usually in regard to (Liberal) politicians, but enviro-nuts are included.

When those massive BC forest fires were burning last year I expected at least one group of enviro-nuts to chain themselves to burning stumps to protest the destruction of the forest.

I've had an enviro-nut ask me if I thought I was more important than a bear - after all bears are people too! Of course I think I am more important than a bear.

After I stopped laughing, I started wondering...
.. How about a mouse? Am I more important than a mouse? A tree maybe?

Posted by: Javahead | 2006-03-25 1:47:48 AM

This war will not last forever, truewest. We're go to give them democratization or give'em death. Either way, on the other end of this war, no more islam.

Posted by: Speller | 2006-03-25 3:56:45 AM

I like trees. I live surrounded by them. It makes me a little sad when I see them cut down from some places. That being said, they're just trees! Plant some more! Where are you going to put people if you don't remove the trees? Oh yeah, I forgot, trees trump humans. In fact to some, everything trumps humans. Good grief.

Posted by: RK | 2006-03-25 7:47:10 AM

For a lack of anything intelligent to say about a tree hugger (and because I'm bored) here goes:

"Now those trees know how millions of aborted babies feel!!!"

Really must we always bring up abortion everytime someone values something other than babies?

Is this supposed to make them 'see the light and the error of their ways'?

Or does this 'pointing out the obvious' (millions of babies slaughtered) to people who value plants more than human life really benefit anyone?

Or does it just give Speller and Truewest the name calling babies (Oops that was name calling. Who knew it was so much fun?) another reason to hate each other.

Posted by: St. John | 2006-03-25 9:32:41 AM

What a load....trees have nothing to do with humanity except as a part of our ecosystems.

As for that woman in Vancouver, she was protesting the removal of said trees as a matter of principle.

The city was in the process of street widening and the trees had to go. Her principles put the love of trees before the need to accomodate more traffic.

Obviously a case of persons putting their feelings ahead of realistic and objective analysis of a situation.
BUT much as I dislike this kind of behaviour there is a need for rational efforts to protect and conserve trees and green spaces in our cities. The destruction of the living landscape in Vancouver over the last couple of decades has been extensive.


Posted by: PGP | 2006-03-25 10:22:02 AM

Saving trees is a "Canadian value." Killing babies in abortion clinics is a Canadian Atrocity.
Go to http://www.AbortionNo.org and see the slaughter of the innocent.

Posted by: Stephen | 2006-03-25 10:33:28 AM

..This war will not last forever,. We're ( dictators who speak for other) go to give them democratization or give'em death. Either way, on the other end of this war, no more democracy just Albertan rednecks who hare all esterners, even Muslim or Canadian?

Harper's popularity took a serious blow in Quebec due to his Conservative endorsed war promtions serioulsy now affecting his ability to form any majority government next. Great that he can't rule with Alberta's redneck support alone

Posted by: Spelled | 2006-03-25 10:34:14 AM

Glad you noticed ET was long-winded. Next, maybe you'll notice that's she's also shaky on the facts and can't tell the difference between her opinion and reality. yes, Like most Rednecks here. It is tiresome to see the same names making the same bland posts, hatreds, bashes here on this site as well. Not much difference, or support for bad rednecks Canada wide.

Posted by: EC | 2006-03-25 10:39:39 AM

Those who endorse killing more trees likley endorse killing Muslims? Easterners, non Albertans? first it starts with lying, abusive language, name calling, more bad words, and next you delete the oppostion's posts and next? you are still the same immoral redneck who should be in jail.

Posted by: Jane | 2006-03-25 10:43:35 AM

As a single issue, those trees are insignificant. Maple trees grow like weeds everywhere except the prairies. The ones in question were probably planted by humans. It's too bad a small incident like this can have an effect on our perception of the bigger issue of logging practises.

Posted by: dan | 2006-03-25 5:04:12 PM

Last time I heard a tree sing was when I took a chainsaw to it... WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

Posted by: Richard Evans | 2006-03-25 9:40:29 PM

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