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Wednesday, January 18, 2006
More Say Anything
So now Buzz Hargrove is calling Stephen Harper a separatist--CP: Buzz Hargrove calls Stephen Harper a separatist; Harper in Toronto. The money quote;
He said Quebec voters should choose the Bloc Quebecois over the Conservatives.
"Anything to stop the Tories."
You get it? Vote for the separatists to stop the separatists. I mean, we knew the Liberals would say anything to cling to power. We know their strategy has been to divide Canadians in order to hold on to office. But... Wow! This is a turnaround. Maybe Buzz is the much-discussed mole. First he undercut the NDP by advocating strategic voting for the Liberals. Now he helps blow what federalist credibility the Liberals have left in Quebec--not much, granted. And this should turn off not a few Ontario undecided voters as well. Ms. Stronach, can you say, "In bed with the Bloc"?
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jeez,how many beds can BS juump in and out of??..
comrade Hargrove is really flushing the commode for her and Paulie....Federal credibility and Liberal no longer mentioned in same sentence....
Posted by: kursk | 2006-01-18 9:52:36 AM
So much for Martin's thundering Defense of Canada in the first English debate. Remember him attacking Duceppe, claiming that his Bloc will never 'take away my country'?
Now, Martin, who is aligned with Hargrove, is insisting that people vote for the Bloc!!! For an openly declared separatist party! Why?
They claim it's to stop separatism. How do you stop separatism by voting FOR a separatist party?
The real reason?
The Liberals are more than terrified of losing; I'm going to suggest that it's the Liberals and the CARTEL who are worried about losing. The Cartel, made up of Magna (that's Stronach's auto industry), Desmarais, PowerCorp, are entangled with the Liberals. They don't want to lose this hold on financial and political power.
So, Buzz is buzzing for the Cartel. And how it's done - the ethics, the morality, the logic - is irrelevant.
Posted by: ET | 2006-01-18 9:59:22 AM
But I thought Martin said Harper was bad because he was in bed with the Bloc.
So now Martin is in the same position.
That makes a threesome.
Maybe another effect of the Supreme Court swinger decision.
We are not allowed to make things up.
Posted by: Mark Collins | 2006-01-18 10:11:32 AM
Buzz Hargrove? More like Buzz Lightyear. What a space cadet. Where's Marvin the Martian when you need him?
Oh goody! My illudium Q-37 explosive space modulator.
And so goes the Liberal campaign!
Posted by: Eskimo | 2006-01-18 10:27:40 AM
I think Buzz has always secretly harbored the desire to be a blue blooded elitist. Opposites attract, and he has spent a career rubbing shoulders with executives in Guccis. Guess something must have rubbed off.
Witness the recent door knocking on behalf of Belinda-the-turncoat, whose dad is not exactly a union lover. The intense, almost unseemly hugging of Paul Martin happened twice - at least in public (who knows what went on in private).
Shilling for the Bloc is just another buzzword for hypocrisy.
Buzz is a far cry from the flinty, anti-social union leaders of the past. Bet he is eyeing pricey summer property in Muskoka even as we type.
Posted by: Aidan Maconachy | 2006-01-18 10:31:37 AM
Hmmmmm a crypto-Marxist who promotes a concentration of power in a central soviet as a "Canadian" value...as he rejects the division of powers in separate but equal jurisdicitions which the confederal founders envisioned as a safety gap against corruption and tyranny.
Hmmmm#2: A Crypto-Marxist who rejects separation and intends to avoid it by having Quebecers elect nationalist-socialists with a separation agenda who wish to base their new nation on linguistic/cultural cleansing politics and Francophone Vichy national socialism....all wrapped in the cause of "Canadian values".
Anyone get the idea that the "values" bunker buddies Buzz and Dithers promote had their origins in the Frankfurt school and the writings of Marcuse and Fromm? Seems Buzzie and Paul's mentors had the same reading list.
Posted by: WLMackenzie redux | 2006-01-18 11:12:27 AM
And here's the flip side:
"Anyhting to stop the Tories."
(picture of Buzz and Martin)
Selon M. Hargrove, un vote pour le Bloc est un vote pour les liberaux.
Changeons pour vrai. Votez pour les Conservateurs.
Ad soon to be running (or at least it should be) on a Quebec station near you.
I'm back out on my limb: the Tories will outpoll the Bloc in Quebec.
Posted by: D.J. McGuire | 2006-01-18 11:16:12 AM
Exactly, WLMackenzie. Decentralization is not a synonym for separatism.
Canada is too large, geographically and population wise, for a centralist gov't. That was the error of the Soviet Union (and Rome). Government must be immediate, local and an accessible discourse between the citizens and their elected government. That's a decentralized gov't.
A centralized gov't in a country as large as Canada, with its population, rapidly moves into an abstract, distant, non-reactive bureaucracy.
Again, decentralization - about which a great deal of wise and intelligent analysis has been written - has absolutely nothing to do with separatism. It has, however, everything to do with good, strong government - and a strong federation.
Posted by: ET | 2006-01-18 11:33:03 AM
What the Liberals have never understood is that if you want to effectively fight seperatism in Quebec, decentralisation is exactly what is needed. Many soft seperatists, who are simply Quebec nationalists pissed off at the way Ottawa works would vote NO in a referendum if the provincial governments were given a little more autonomy and treated like equals instead of colonies of Ottawa.
Posted by: Luc Schulz | 2006-01-18 11:36:52 AM
Exactly, Luc. Decentralization is the best infrastructure for Canada. And decentralization is NOT a synonym for separatism.
By the way, the Toronto Star has just posted a column from CP (12.55 pm) that has Martin in 'full damage control' about Hargrove's remarks. Martin is now saying that Harper is indeed a 'patriot', and is also trying to deflect the damage done by Hargrove's remarks against Alberta.
Posted by: ET | 2006-01-18 11:43:35 AM
Yup, handling a Buzz saw is not for amateurs.
And his endorsement of Belinda can be explained by the fact that non-union Magna finally caved and made a collective agreement with the CAW in one of their plants a few years ago.
Posted by: Joan Tintor | 2006-01-18 12:26:09 PM
Light is coming on. Decentralization is the key. Even a small country like Switzerland has understood that for a long time and made a success of a multi-lingual nation.
Posted by: Rémi Houle | 2006-01-18 12:29:41 PM
Hey, take it easy! The Liberals need to win a minority so I can get my appointment to the Senate!
Posted by: Buzz | 2006-01-18 12:38:05 PM
"Buzz is a far cry from the flinty, anti-social union leaders of the past. Bet he is eyeing pricey summer property in Muskoka even as we type."
What makes you think he doesn't already have one or more? He makes a lot of money - white Ontarians do.
Harper could solve Ontario's "homeless" problem by giving the "homeless" the summer cottages in Muskoka. Their absentee owners are wasting space by only using them during the summer. It would serve a double purpose: solving the "homeless" problem by giving them homes, and cleaning up Tronna's streets.
Another solution is to burn down Ontario's precious cottage country to eliminate unnecessary waste in society. One home per family.
If the rich people who own those cottages complain, well too f-ing bad.
Ontario doesn't want decentralization because it removes their privileges. They are the Gordion Knot of Confederation, not Quebec, by preventing necessary changes. This is why Alberta has to take more responsibility upon itself so its people do not suffer like those Ontario considers "useful idiots".
Posted by: Scott | 2006-01-18 12:48:40 PM
Don`t forget Liberal bagman and Onex head , Schwartz, bosom buddy to Martian and Buzz , who probably put the idea in Buzz`s inflated head , about a year ago. Paul . Belinda and Gerry , what a trifecta for Buzz. Drinking champagne in Yorkville sure beats beer and popcorn back at the old union hall..
Posted by: dave | 2006-01-18 12:52:49 PM
No problem babe . We got a front row seat and a corner office with your name on it. If we don`t make it , we`ve got a spot for you at Power Corp - Bermuda division .
Posted by: paulie | 2006-01-18 1:28:56 PM
Very good point Luc Schulz re decentralisation.
I have a Buzz/Gilles cartoon up on my blog - click on my name and it should link.
Posted by: Aidan Maconachy | 2006-01-18 2:24:15 PM
people this election is about nothing more than kyoto. this is the biggest money theft the world will ever see if it comes to fruition. these scumbags (liberals) and their scumbag lickers have all the systems in place with hedge funds etc. to fleece the world. dr. evil is hiding out in china hoping number two manages to pull it off so he can come home and begin. if not the shredsting will be 24/7 on the hill
Posted by: bartinsky | 2006-01-18 6:03:08 PM
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