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Thursday, May 26, 2005

They Are Not The Same

Monte Solberg reminds me of why some of us refuse to be cynical about poltiicians, to entertain the argument that "all politicians are the same". They are not.

I look forward to going to church where I wish to be chided, and made to feel very sorry and then to be forgiven.

I will also do chores, and will be happy to do as I am told. I will inspect my trees, many of which we planted.

I will entertain a recurring and dangerous fantasy that politics at bottom is about what is just. From this shaky premise I will, I am sure wrongly, conclude that justice implies the frightening idea of a moral standard.

This wild idea being firmly and I suppose errantly fixed in my brain I will, like a more ridiculous Don Quixote, retreat to my modest castle to bind up my wounds, to marshall my resources and to gird again for battle.


Winston Churchill was not the same as Neville Chamberlain. Ronald Reagan was not the same as Jimmy Carter.

Monte Solberg is not the same as Alphonso Gagliano, or Belinda Stronach, or Carolyn Parrish, or Joe "KKK" Volpe.

Some Canadians understand better than others that the premise is not only false, but dangerous. The argument that "all polititians are the same" is not only a falsehood - it is a falsehood with a hidden intent. Manufactured in an attempt to pull all those in the public service down to a lowest common denominator, it sustains the apologist's rationale to endorse "The Devil You Know". That particular devil just happens to be the soil in which corrupt governments take root.

Buying into the canard is not a product of cynicism, but an admission that one's own moral compass should be sent in for a rebuild. If we truly believes that "all politicians are the same", then we must also concede that all citizens are "the same", held to no particular standard of honesty or integrity, and that with such low expectations of government, undeserving of better.

Posted by Kate McMillan on May 26, 2005 in Canadian Politics | Permalink

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Joe "KKK" Volpe? Are you joking?
I mean you could call him a tyrant for taking away an opposition day, but the KKK?
Sweet Jebus save us!

Posted by: Winston | 2005-05-26 11:59:42 AM


Isn't Monty's soliloquy about getting away from "all my media pundit know-it-all friends". Can't you just leave such attacks well enough alone?
Do it for Monty.

Posted by: Gamblog | 2005-05-26 12:11:19 PM


The argument that all politicians are the same is intellectually lazy and/or a poor attempt to hide the otherwise indefensible act of voting for a corrupt party.

Posted by: Strong and Free in AB | 2005-05-26 1:16:54 PM


"I mean you could call him a tyrant for taking away an opposition day, but the KKK?"

It was a reference to Volpe's "Liberano's" criticism. How quickly you Libs forget your own sins.

Posted by: Carl | 2005-05-26 1:42:16 PM


The unfortunate part of seeing all politicians as dishonest is the fact that wise people say, we get what we asked for, and as we did not pay much attention when our former prime minister was in office, we got lots of dishonest politicians who played his games.

Typical of Canadians to blame Mr.Harper, and
not ourselves. Think about a few years back when
it was a accepted fact that liberals would win.

There has been some real steps forward and if
we keep whining about the leader who has brought
good changes we will, once again, whine ourselves
into a majority liberal parliament.

If we cared one whit we would be sending e-mails,
letters and phoning our M.P.
Have you? They are easy to find...

Google,
canadian government,
choose language
look at left side...see contact your M.P,
see contact your M.P. by name,
page with the names, phone numbers, e-mail address, where to write.

I cannot bring myself to believe Canadian people
are so used to corruption and lies from their
government they cannot take the time to write,etc.

There are good and honest politcians in our
parliament. I do believe they are conservatives,
but that is my bias. The liberals are so run by
the prime minister they never seem to have any
minds of their own. Let's hope they are following
him like lemmings and off the cliff.

If the east votes for Martin again, I really fear
for their mental state and can see why some Albertans want to remove themselves from a country that is proud to be corrupt. We could say greedy, but that is not nice, now is it?


Posted by: cj | 2005-05-26 1:46:23 PM


4 Tenn. lawmakers arrested in bribery probe.

FBI set up bogus company to ferret out influence peddling

The Associated Press
Updated: 2:27 p.m. ET May 26, 2005

NASHVILLE, Tenn. - Four Tennessee lawmakers, a former lawmaker and two others were indicted Thursday amid a federal investigation into the business dealings of a state senator from Memphis from a powerful political family, officials said.

*************************************************

Where is the federal investigation of the Liberal Party in Canada?

Where, indeed?

Posted by: maz2 | 2005-05-26 2:56:04 PM


maz2, the weird thing about it is that in the States when a state begins to be corrupt, we call in the FBI. However the FBI represents the federal level of our government. And it seems that many of Canada's problems stem from what we would regard as the federal level. Such being the case, who does one call in?

I'll also mention that I've been posting up here a couple of years and you old timers know that I am solidly in your corner. So I do not mean it as a cheap shot when I say that from an American point of view, Canada is one heck of a wild place.

Around the world, people have a lot of fanciful theories about the US because we're a huge economically powerful country. However, these things are less true of the United States and more true of Canada.

Does anyone have any idea of the explosions that would go off if it were discovered that our Secretary of Labor was an organized crime figure? In fact, a made member of the mafia? You talk about the shot heard 'round the world!

Does anyone have the slightest concept of what would occur in the US if one of our conservative female Senators or Congresswomen, on the eve of an earthshaking vote, would announce that she was becoming a Democrat because of being offered a Cabinet post? And then this same woman, that very night, celebrated by dancing on a table? Think Kay Bailey Hutchison, senior Senator from Texas. Can anyone who knows US politics imagine Senator Hutchison "getting down" in a table dance?
Believe me, these events would cause a tsunami.

All this stuff about Power Corp.. I mean, Ross Perot has $3 billion and has run for President. He can't just flick his finger and cause nations to adopt policies. Bill Gates is said to be the richest man in the world, and he was brought into line by our political opposition because I guess he was not spreading enough money around.

Anyway, this is all getting too lengthy. But I must say that politics in Canada is the fulfillment of many absolutely extravagant conspiracy theories that I'v heard. Canada, you take the cake.

Posted by: Greg outside Dallas | 2005-05-26 4:33:34 PM


Greg outside Dallas, yes, Canada really does cake the take -- "I am smug, self-righteous, ignorant, tedious, humorless. I am Canadian."

And this fool Winston -- he should have his mug plastered on our flag.

How is it possible that every comment from him is even more assinine than the last?

It's probably a waste of time trying to communicate with someone so thick, but, for the record, and read s-l-o-w-l-y:

Kate referred to The Honourable Joe Volpe as Joe "KKK" Volpe, because Joe Volpe referred to the Conservative Party of Canada as the K.K.K.

Is that too difficult to understand?

Please, Winston Not-Churchill, please post some idiotic retort.

Let's see just how assinine you can be.

Posted by: Brian O'Neill | 2005-05-26 10:31:59 PM


A realistic view of ones own humanity starts with humility. We must be able to see our own weaknesses before we can stand upon our strengths. Solberg sees himself correctly (Note: It is with a good dose of humour. As each of us should realize when we look in the mirror, that God has a sense of humour).
This is one thing I have not seen in Paul Martin, or Layton or Harper. They take themselves too seriously.

Posted by: jack | 2005-05-26 11:46:19 PM


Well Bill your level of asinine is a pretty tough act to follow, but I'd say the more we can keep the KKK out of our discussions the better. Joe Volpe included.

Posted by: Winston | 2005-05-27 6:25:21 AM


Thank you, thank you, thank you for not disappointing.

Q: "Please, Winston Not-Churchill, please post some idiotic retort. Let's see just how assinine you can be."

A: "Well Bill your level of asinine is a pretty tough act to follow."

PRICELESS

* It's STEPHEN Harper.

* Saddam is responsible for more than "5 Grand dead Kurds" (not only incorrect, but phrased in a truly disgusting manner)

* We're still waiting for your plan for improving the situation in Zimbabwe without removing Mugabe.

* For that matter, next time you comment on anything, I promise will die of a herat attack if you could actually suggest a sensible plan of action for dealing with the problem.

* Bill?

* "Level of asinine" - How about learning English? No wonder you got rejected by U of T.

PRICELESS

I don't mind sharing the planet with those who disagree with me, but if you can't present a sensible argument, the least you can do is make an ass of yourself for my entertainment. Thank you for YET AGAIN coming through.

I await your next twittish schoolgirl outburst.

Please give me a five minute warning before your next comment, so I'll have time to get some popcorn to go with the comedy.

Posted by: Brian O'Neill | 2005-05-27 8:54:05 AM


P.S. Typographical errors are not in the same league as the graphological expositions of a twisted mind. (See how predictable you are?)

Posted by: Brian O'Neill | 2005-05-27 8:58:47 AM


The New Lexicon Webster's Dictionary of the English Language describes Bill as

Bill: see asinine

asinine: adj. stupid asininity pl. asininities n. crass stupidity or an instance of this [fr. L. asininus, asslike]


Posted by: Winston | 2005-05-27 9:55:07 AM


Winston,Winston, Winston. Even with a dictionary definition outlining all of the forms of the word "asinine", you fail to grasp that you should have used "asininity". "Your level of asinine" is just not correct.

I'm somehow not surprised that you can see the facts in front of your face and fail to understand. I've read enough of your posts to expect it.

Posted by: Mike | 2005-05-27 12:20:13 PM


Winston,Winston, Winston. Even with a dictionary definition outlining all of the forms of the word "asinine", you fail to grasp that you should have used "asininity". "Your level of asinine" is just not correct.

I'm somehow not surprised that you can see the facts in front of your face and fail to understand. I've read enough of your posts to expect it.

Posted by: Mike | 2005-05-27 12:20:38 PM


Mike, I apologize for not using the plural form. But all these stupid attacks are about me objecting to the tossing of the KKK into the discussions that Monty was clearly trying to escape from. It is beneath us.

Posted by: Winston | 2005-05-27 12:36:29 PM


"Plural"? Huh?

And this guy's gonna give us all lectures on constitutional law?

Riiiigghht . . .

Posted by: Brian O'Neill | 2005-05-27 2:14:11 PM



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