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Friday, May 27, 2005

Foreign affairs in the post-modern age

Pierre Pettigrew says he'll reserve judgement on whether Hamas victories in the upcoming Palestinians elections are a good or bad thing until after he sees how they do at the polls.

Of course the Liberals would pick an election where terrorists are running for office to start acting like they give a fig about democracy.

Posted by Kevin Libin on May 27, 2005 | Permalink


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"Of course the Liberals would pick an election where terrorists are running for office to start acting like they give a fig about democracy."

Yes, and conservatives would pick an election in which terrorists are running for office to start acting like we should somehow do something to prevent this form of democracy.

Posted by: sammy | 2005-05-27 2:59:28 PM

Kind of like the Dawa party, which was bombing American embassies in the eighties, sitting in the new Iraqi government...

Posted by: A Hermit | 2005-05-27 3:05:53 PM

Sammy wrote:

"We should somehow do something to prevent this form of democracy"

I don't remember anyone suggesting anything about "doing something" beyond making a statement that doesn't reek of utter moral vacancy. Like this,for instance:


Posted by: Kevin Libin | 2005-05-27 3:12:08 PM

Power couple launches fight against anti-Semitism

Special to The CJN

Tony and Elizabeth Comper

Late-night television news is a precursor to slumber for many viewers, but one night last spring, it was more of a wake-up call for Elizabeth Comper.

After a crowd of 2,500 gathered at Leah Posluns Theatre to condemn the rash of hate crimes plaguing Toronto at the time, Comper – the wife of Tony Comper, president and CEO of BMO Financial Group – watched news coverage of the rally in the privacy of her home.

“I couldn’t be there that evening, and after that I had to do something,” she said.

Noting that 2004 was the worst year in more than half a century for anti-Jewish activity in Canada – according to B’nai Brith Canada’s League for Human Rights, there were 857 reported incidents of harassment, violence and vandalism last year alone – Elizabeth Comper said she and her husband resolved take action.

Now in its launching stage, Fighting Anti-Semitism Together (FAST) is a coalition of non-Jewish Canadian business executives who “are encouraging other non-Jewish leaders to stand up and be counted against the oldest hatred in human history,” said Paul Deegan, head of government and public relations for BMO Financial Group.

So far, about 20 chief executives have signed on to fund FAST. Many of its supporters are household names, Deegan said, including Peter Godsoe, former chairman of the Bank of Nova Scotia; Rick Waugh, president and CEO of Bank of Nova Scotia; and Dominic D’Allessandro, CEO of Manulife Financial Corp.

“They believe it is time to speak out, challenge others to speak out and get more people to join the cause,” Deegan said.

“We’re sending out the message that the Jewish people are not alone,” Tony Comper said. “We have a prestigious group associated with the project, an impressive roster. And we hope it will broaden over time.”

To promote FAST, he will address the Empire Club of Canada on June 16.

With money collected from corporate donors and in conjunction with Canadian Jewish Congress, the Compers will launch an educational project this fall targeted at public schools that aims to educate both Jewish and non-Jewish students about eradicating anti-Semitism.

Elizabeth Comper said a DVD is currently being filmed and will be used in classrooms to prompt discussion and foster awareness. Canadian Idol host Ben Mulroney will introduce the four-part video series.

“Something like [FAST] has never been done before in any place that we know of,” she said. “This isn’t just a Jewish issue. This is an issue of every single person living in Canada. If we can change or move one child, then it’s all worth it.”

To date, the Compers have raised more than $200,000 for FAST and they plan to promote their initiative across the country.


A worthy cause; show your support.

Shut down anti-Semitism.

Posted by: maz2 | 2005-05-27 3:32:04 PM

I find this area to be of great interest.

Is it your contention that once a group carries out acts of terrorism it is beyond the pale and can never participate in the political process?

This has certainly not been the case in the past and is certainly not the case today.

Is it not somehow a sign of progress that Hamas is participating in the political process? Does it not expand their options beyond terrorism and make them less likely to commit violent acts?

I would think so, but would be interested in arguments to the contrary.

Mont D. Law

Posted by: montdlaw | 2005-05-27 4:12:25 PM

Mont. D. Law wrote:
Is it your contention that once a group carries out acts of terrorism it is beyond the pale and can never participate in the political process?

That's not my contention. There are political parties in functioning democratic states have a terrorist past. The ANC comes to mind. I'm sure if I put some thought to it, I could dig up a few more (I'm deliberately not mentioning Sinn Fein, for a reason that will shortly become apparent).

But Hamas is not a party that has a terrorist past—it has a terrorist present and, by all indications, a terrorist future. Not only has it not renounced the use of terrorism, it's charter continues to call for the elimination of Jews in the MidEast and openly rejects any form of co-existence other than constant, final war:

"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it . . .There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors."

Being involved in the political process is not in itself a sign of progress. To use a well-worn example, Hitler took part in the political process. Once he exploited it, he was able to override it and commandeer it, allowing him to wage war and genocide (unlike Hamas, those plans weren't even an open part of the Nazi campaign platform when they won their seats in Parliament).

Hamas is running in the Palestinian elections because they see it as the fastest, most direct way to gain power (they're quite popular). Why would obtaining influence in the governance of the territories have any more effect on Hamas' terrorist impulses than it did on the PLO's? If anything, it could make it even more difficult to rein them in.

Posted by: Kevin Libin | 2005-05-28 2:26:58 PM

But Ontario is the Sixth Reich! Anti-Semtism is standard policy there.


-Revisionist opinions held by the CBC regarding the Nazis in WWII. According to them, the Nazis were the good guys, while Canadian troops and aircrew were genocidal monsters; the opposite is in fact true.

-Belinda Stronach's ties to neo-Nazism in Austria. Money created by goods sold and services rendered in North America goes to support Jord Haider's attempts to replace Austria's federal government with a Nazi reich.

-Ernst Zundel's has had a wide impact on the attitudes of the people of Ontario. Resistance Records, a white supremacist recording label, was founded in Ontario, and still exists there. For shame.

I encourage Ontario's Jewish population to flee for their lives to Alberta. Your lives are in danger there. In Alberta, you will be like all people here: treated with tolerance and acceptance. The Ontarians currently in Alberta will have to leave, however, because they represent a threat to our society - and further emigration here will have to be prevented.

Down with Ontario!

Posted by: Scott | 2005-05-28 2:58:31 PM

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