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Friday, March 25, 2005
More on the Senate appointments
The Conservative and ND parties are saying no to the senators Paul Martin appointed and party affiliation he assigned them in order to dodge criticism of partisan stacking of the Senate. The NDP, of course, doesn't want any senators under their party label in the Senate because their official position is to eliminate the chamber of sober second thought. The Conservatives are not happy that Martin named two Progressive Conservative senators because there is no federal PC party anymore. The Canadian Press reports that Stephen Harper said in response: "There is no federal Progressive Conservative Party. This is usually a euphemism now for people who support the Liberal party federally."
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Joe Green for senate - he'll lick Mr. Dithers' boots right good!
Posted by: JoeGreenMonkey | 2005-03-25 3:22:36 PM
Perhaps it's though few drops of American blood that I tend to agree with the NDP on Senate reform. I would prefer to vote for my senate representatives, not watch as they are appointed by Mr. Dithers or even (in the future) our enlightened party leader himself.
We should disband that august body and open the doors to further democratization.
Nothing too revolutionary, I hope.
Posted by: Dylan Sherlock | 2005-03-25 11:48:55 PM
Dylan, the last thing we want to do is remove the last vestiges of a check on the prime minister's power.
I know the senate has been inefective to the point of being irrelevant for 15-30 years now. Still, there is hope that it could be salvaged.
Posted by: Pete E | 2005-03-26 12:56:28 AM
Liberal PM-Paul Martin can easyly appoint provincial elected Senators to Canada's Senate now. Without even changing Canada's constitution. Simply,the provinces can elect their own people for their own provincial Senate seats. PM-Paul Martin than appoints these elected Senators to the Senate. Unfortunately PM-Martin is only appointing by cronyism. This is what PM-Martin stated he'd put a stop too during the last federal election campaign. What Fed-Liberals say and do are often different. No doubt the smart and informed action is to boot the Fed-Liberals out of government next election.
Posted by: Larry | 2005-03-26 1:58:10 AM
There's only one way to salvage the senate: by making it an elected body.
Even our great Canadian hero Romeo Dalliare had to dirty his hands a little to get in the senate. Buying up a couple barren acres of New Brunswick so that he can satisfy the antiquated "land-owner" requirement --- while at the same time representating an area that he has no personal connection to, and likely never will. What a disgrace.
I am not interested in a Senate irrelevent to the needs of Canadians. I don't think many Canadian would disagree.
Posted by: Dylan Sherlock | 2005-03-26 12:56:25 PM
Dylan: I agree. Either an effective senate or none at all. Pure and simple.
Posted by: Scott | 2005-03-26 1:17:41 PM
For another POV re Dallaire's appointment & etc.
His point re "making too much out of valiant failure, when we have many examples of equally valiant success. There's something fundamentally sick about a society that lionizes victims..."
Did he have the new looney lionizing Terry Fox in mind? Politically incorrect? You betcha. Great stuff, IMO.
Posted by: maz2 | 2005-03-26 7:49:33 PM
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