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Monday, September 01, 2008

Sarah Palin was a member of the Alaskan Independence Party (updated)

Sarah Palin, vice-presidential candidate for the Republican Party, was once a member of the Alaskan Independence Party (AIP), and may still be sympathetic with their mission, according to Lynnette Clark, Chairman of the AIP.

The AIP believes that the vote for statehood was invalid, and that there should be a vote on Alaskan secession.

Responding to a request for comment from the Western Standard, Clark wrote:

"Yes, Governor Palin was a member of the Alaskan Independence Party. She joined the Party and attended the AIP Statewide Convention held in Wasilla in 1994, along with her husband, Todd. In 1996 she changed her registration to Republican and Todd re-registered as undeclared, a registration he holds today."

Clark maintains that she, as Chairman of the AIP, is "not so excited about having [Palin] as a V.P. candidate," and added that she feels "somewhat betrayed as an Alaskan that she would attach herself to a candidate [John McCain] that has long held an opposing view to the development of our republic and its' resource wealth." John McCain has opposed efforts to permit drilling for oil in the Alaskan National Wildlife Reserve (or ANWR).

As for Palin's current views about the AIP, Clark wrote, "I cannot say where Governor Palin now "stands" regarding the AIP Platform, however, she did send a wonderful DVD from her office for the 2008 AIP Statewide Convention sharing her opinion of the importance of this Party."

Here is that video sent to the convention:

The AIP currently has two candidates campaigning for Congress in the upcoming election: Bob Bird, vying for a U.S. Senate seat, and Don Wright for a U.S. House seat.

The AIP has made "several inroads regarding a relationship with Canada," wrote Clark. Joe Volger, founder of the AIP, was "in serious contact with the leaders of the Yukon and Northwest Territories."

"I, as chairman," she concluded, "would like to re-engage in that relationship."

UPDATE: Independent Political Report has an exclusive chat with U.S. Senate candidate Bob Bird here. (Bob is not a fan of Sarah Palin's, and re-iterates that the AIP has thrown their support behind Chuck Baldwin and the Constitution Party). An interesting consideration: "Palin had attended the 2006 AIP convention to give a speech (I missed that one). This was astute, because in a small state where we are all friends and neighbors, showing up at cross-party functions is not that unusual or seen as duplicitous."

UPDATE2: Welcome readers of Daily KOS and littlegreenfootballs.

UPDATE3: To digg this story, go here.

UPDATE4: Richard Evans in the comment section has pointed me to sources that dispute Lynette Clark's claims about Sarah Palin's affiliation with the AIP. Please read my follow-up post here.

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And she used drugs once but didn't like it. Same difference. Move along, nothing to see here.

Posted by: Zebulon Pike | 2008-09-01 4:32:29 PM


Not quite.
This is a political choice, to be a member of a secessionist party.

Now's she's getting to be VP for Lincoln's republican party?

How shocking does it gets?

This will be top news tomorrow, more than the pregnancy.

Posted by: aNDRE | 2008-09-01 5:05:52 PM


http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/09/ipr-exclusive-bob-bird-on-sarah-palin/

Above is a link to an interview with an AIP Senate candidate who explains the Palin/AIP ties.

Posted by: Ross | 2008-09-01 6:07:40 PM


"The AIP has made "several inroads regarding a relationship with Canada," wrote Clark. Joe Volger, founder of the AIP, was "in serious contact with the leaders of the Yukon and Northwest Territories."

"I, as chairman," she concluded, "would like to re-engage in that relationship."

Isn't this an admission to violating the Logan act?

Posted by: Chris | 2008-09-01 7:53:06 PM


None of this ties Sarah Palin to an Alaskan Independence movement. She simply says she appreciates political competition. That is as it should be. It keeps everyone sharper.

Posted by: DML | 2008-09-01 9:29:15 PM


"None of this ties Sarah Palin to an Alaskan Independence movement. She simply says she appreciates political competition. That is as it should be. It keeps everyone sharper."

DML: Palin was once a member of the party, according to AIP's chair. That ties her to it.

For some libertarians, her connection to AIP might be a plus :-)

Terrence

Posted by: Terrence Watson | 2008-09-01 9:39:00 PM


I understand her prior membership,Terrence. She left the party, perhaps because she thinks that she can do more for the country by being inside the big tent or because she changed her opinion about independence. The chairman's opinion means nothing. He is not inside her head. To think otherwise is to condemn us to the opinions we formed while still in our parent's care.

Posted by: DML | 2008-09-01 9:54:29 PM


"DML: Palin was once a member of the party, according to AIP's chair. That ties her to it."

She renounced it when she quit the party.

I once drove a Chevy Vega... Now I drive a Jeep. Tomorrow, when I drive my kids to school, am I in the Vega or am I in the Jeep?

Sometimes when we leave things behind, we really do leave them behind...

Terrence, do you have ANY connection with the real world?

Posted by: Richard Evans | 2008-09-01 9:57:17 PM


DML,

In 1994, Palin wasn't exactly under the care of her parents. I must be missing your point.

Maybe she has changed her mind about the AIP, and that's fine. But shouldn't people be able to ask her about her former affiliation?

Look at it this way: If it turned out that Obama was affiliated with some kind of black separatist party fifteen years ago, wouldn't you want to know? And wouldn't you want someone to ask him if he still shared the ideals of that party?

I don't think Palin should be condemned for once being a member of a political party (especially not this one), but there's nothing wrong with scrutinizing her past association with it.

Best,

Terrence

Posted by: Terrence Watson | 2008-09-01 10:01:54 PM


"Terrence, do you have ANY connection with the real world?"

Dick, do you still own a domain that redirects to NAMBLA?

Posted by: Terrence Watson | 2008-09-01 10:03:10 PM


"Dick, do you still own a domain that redirects to NAMBLA?"

CC and thai-guy thought that it was cool that 45 year old men could have sex with 14 year old boys. I used a domain name, that I purchased, to publicly highlight their advocacy. Do you have a problem with that Terrence? Do you think their advocacy of such things should have been kept under wraps? Do you support their advocacy of such things?

To answer your question though, actually, no. It's expired. But, if I find more pedophile enablers, I'll be sure to snap it up again just to make sure that they're connected to the results of their actions... Is that ok with you or do I need your permission to expose pedophiles and their on-line helpers?

Now that we've gotten that out of the way, are there any more questions that you'd like to ask that we can use to embarrass your friends?

Posted by: Richard Evans | 2008-09-01 10:32:08 PM


Dick,

I dunno: you were the one who was sending traffic to NAMBLA, not Canadian Cynic, or anyone else around here. Say, would you mind telling us how many people got to NAMBLA's site via your redirect? More than one?

Making it easier for people to find NAMBLA is kind of reprehensible. Anyone can write a column simply condemning NAMBLA, and should receive kudos for it -- but you actually went out of your way to make it easier for people to get to their website.

Tell me, how does sending people to NAMBLA via a domain you picked solely because it was similar to your online enemy's actually do anything to stop pedophiles or help their victims?

Dick, I'm not embarrassed. Maybe you should be, though.

Kind regards,

Terrence

Posted by: Terrence Watson | 2008-09-01 10:39:20 PM


This post is not about NAMBLA. This is a comment thread for discussion of Palin and the Alaskan Independence Party.

Please get back to the issue at hand.

Posted by: P.M. Jaworski | 2008-09-01 10:44:32 PM


Jaws,

So say we all!

Anyway, like I was saying, past political associations should be fair game. People would want to know if Obama was associated with a black nationalist party. People have any criticized him for his past association with that Weather Underground guy.

I'm not saying anyone should be held hostage to past, perhaps misconceived positions; after all, I used to get mail from the Communist Party. But I wouldn't mind answering questions about this past indiscretion. My commitment to liberty is quite strong now and I have evidence to show it.

So just ask Palin the question: what does she think of the AIP now? That's all.

Best,

Terrence

Posted by: Terrence Watson | 2008-09-01 10:50:37 PM


"This post is not about NAMBLA. This is a comment thread for discussion of Palin and the Alaskan Independence Party."

I agree. Terrence asked a question though and it deserved an answer. He's asking another question and I can't leave that one hanging either...

"Making it easier for people to find NAMBLA is kind of reprehensible. Anyone can write a column simply condemning NAMBLA, and should receive kudos for it -- but you actually went out of your way to make it easier for people to get to their website."

Your friends have been less than truthful with you. The redirect on the domain first landed on a page explaining why the user was where they were (CC supports the idea that 45 year old men should be allowed to have sex with 14 year old boys) and what they were about to be directed to. It gave clear instruction that those who didn't want to go further should hit their browser's back button and gave them 20 seconds to do so.

If you're interested in the stats, most of the folks who landed on that site googled "Canadian Cynic". Of those who clicked through the google link, about 50% went forward. What's that say about the folks who were looking for "Canadian Cynic"?

Birds of a feather?

You're not helping your friends here Terrence. Are you sure you want to continue this conversation?

Posted by: Richard Evans | 2008-09-01 11:06:06 PM


I agree with you, Terrence, and I think it's an interesting question to ask.

To clarify any possible misunderstanding, I, myself, do not view past membership in the AIP as a problem. In fact, it further endears me to Palin.

It is an interesting story, and one that I was happy to chase down.

If there is anything else that pops up, I'll be happy to ask the AIP for their input again.

And it is relevant whether or not Palin was a member of the AIP as an adult, and what she thinks of them now.

One thing to keep in mind, however, is the quote from Bob Bird on the first update that I posted. The in-state dynamic is important.

Posted by: P.M. Jaworski | 2008-09-01 11:10:54 PM


Jaws,

Also, I think it should be pointed out that neither you nor I are criticizing Palin for being affiliated with the AIP.

Wouldn't you say that, other things equal, this makes you more likely to look on her positively, rather than less?

Best,

Terrence

Posted by: Terrence Watson | 2008-09-01 11:20:51 PM


It's becoming more and more obvious that Palin was not properly vetted.

Sarah Palin, to this day supports and spoke words of encouragement to the AIP political party at their 2008 Convention, a secessionist organization whose platform still includes secession by Alaska and whose founding member, Joe Vogler, refused to be considered an American citizen: "I'm an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America or her damned institutions."

McCain has met with this woman personally for maybe an hour total and is just now sending campaign officials to Alaska to do a proper background check. His campaign even tried to say the FBI had vetted her in their effort to cover up this fiasco and I seriously doubt they realized she was a director for one of Steven's 527 groups.

Posted by: MsSwin | 2008-09-02 2:23:07 AM


So not only is Sarah Palin a former member of AIP, she is a former member of NAMBLA? Wow!

[[Does Jon Stewart know you guys are stealing his bit? Or am I the one stealing it... So hard to tell.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMupwUD8vzk ]]

Posted by: Fact Check | 2008-09-02 6:45:47 AM


The real question isn't whether it's "right" or "wrong" for her to be afiliated with a secessionist group (I'll leave that to Americans). The AIP might have legimate concerns - just as the Rev Wright does about blacks in America. The real question: will Palin be swiftboated like Obama was fro knowing Rev Wright?

The fun's just beginning with Sarah Palin: the AIP alliance, the horny pregnant daughter of the "no sex education" governor, firing a state official for not firing her ex-brother in law. What's next??

Posted by: Paul Gallagher | 2008-09-02 11:45:47 AM


Couple the above clip with these two and see what you get:

This next clip is the 1st of 2 parts from the convention itself. About half way through the speech(at 6:00), the Vice Chairman of the AIP, Dexter Clark, says this of Palin: "Our current governor who I mentioned at the last conference, the one we were hoping would get elected, Sarah Palin, did get elected . . . .and there was a lot of talk about her moving up. She was an AIP member before she got the job as mayor . . . "

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHFY1otOWjQ

This last clip is a continuation of the speech from Dexter Clark, the Vice Chairman from the AIP. In it, he talks about the necessity of infiltrating the major national parties in order to further the goals of the AIP.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9RDjKN8t4w

And their 2008 platform:

To seek the complete repatriation of the public lands, held by the federal government, to the state and people of Alaska in conformance with Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17, of the federal constitution.

Governor Palin’s connections with the AIP are also furthered by her connection to Wally Hickel, a former Alaskan governor. Hickel was elected on the AIP ticket. He served as the co-chairman of Governor Palin’s campaign in 2006

Posted by: alisa | 2008-09-02 2:09:10 PM


Update: no affiliation:

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/john-stephenson/2008/09/02/accusations-sarah-palin-was-member-alaska-independence-party-are-fa

Posted by: Richard Evans | 2008-09-02 2:10:21 PM


I find nothing objectionable in that video. In fact I think its a nice little video.

Lots of young people get involved in fringe organizations that make them cringe later in life. When I was young I went to a bunch of events put on by a loony group called the Institute for Liberal Studies. I don't think that should be held against me now that I'm old and wise, nor do I think Palin should be slammed for this.

Posted by: Hugh MacIntyre | 2008-09-02 3:01:20 PM


For the record I was being tongue and cheek. The Institute for Liberal Studies is a wonderful organization that I would be proud to have my name associated with.

Posted by: Hugh MacIntyre | 2008-09-02 10:17:01 PM


Hugh, you might be proud now, but imagine how bad it'll look when you're running for Vice-President of the United States.

Also, Peter, I've got to give you credit - it's not often Kos and LGF can agree on much of anything, even a link.

Posted by: Alex Sloat | 2008-09-03 7:42:06 PM



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