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Thursday, March 20, 2008
Obama: Typical White People are Racist
So, some people were upset because, the other day, Obama essentially claimed that his Grandmother being afraid of an aggressive black panhandler and the deranged ravings of the Rev. Wright were morally equivalent. Now, trying to back-pedal from that position, he's said something far, far dumber than that.
He said that the point he was making, in drawing such a comparison, is that his Grandmother is a "typical white person." To be clear, here's what he said about his Grandmother (who, by the way, raised him and is still alive). He described her as:
...a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe.
In other words, in Obama's world, all white people are afraid of black people and go around spitting out ethnic and racial stereotypes. Good to know.
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Get the facts. Obama's position was that neither his grandmother was racist nor was Wright. Both were ordinary people who at times felt fear or anger, and voiced those feelings. The only difference is that Wright was on tape. You took exactly the wrong meaning.
Posted by: Archibald | 2008-03-20 7:27:59 PM
Obama:
"The point I was making was not that my grandmother harbors any racial animosity, but that she is a typical white person. If she sees somebody on the street that she doesn't know (pause) there's a reaction in her that doesn't go away and it comes out in the wrong way."
Who knew Jesse Jackson was a typical white person?
Posted by: h2o273kk9 | 2008-03-20 7:30:15 PM
Archibald,
"The only difference is that Wright was on tape.
If that's the only difference between his grandmother and Wright, you haven't been paying attention.
Venom, rage, and stridency for instance.
Posted by: h2o273kk9 | 2008-03-20 7:36:55 PM
Obama is a vicious racist as is the hypocrital liberal media and all the hypocrites that are trying to protect racist Obama.
Posted by: Rev Don | 2008-03-20 7:39:06 PM
For years African Americans have objected to being referred to a "you people" and other forms racial stereotyping. By using the phrase "typical white person" Senator Obama seems to be engaging in the same type of racial profiling that many people have found so objectionable. The more Senator Obama talks, the more questions he raises about his own attitudes.
Posted by: tbirdal | 2008-03-20 7:50:30 PM
The only racist here is the author of this moronic blog post -- it is also highly defamatory, not to mention deliberately misleading and inaccurate.
Posted by: Werner Patels | 2008-03-20 8:07:34 PM
No one is rich just because they are white. The richest woman in America is Opra Winfree. The secretary of state is a black woman. Many of the highest paid athletes and entertainers in America are black people. The highest paid golfer in America is Tiger Woods, a black man. He is so because he used his talents and skills to earn his way to the top.
I am sick of the whining from the so called minority groups and that goes for our own molly coddled native Indians in Canada as well.
There is opportunity for the more motivated and squalor for the less motivated. The beauty of the great free free Western society is that we are all free to choose out destiny. There is also ample support for the truly disadvantaged.
Obama is now unelectable and it's a good thing we learned about his true background before he was able to impose his Marxist, black theology on America.
Too bad, if he was we though he was when he burst onto the scene, he might have made a great president and indeed may have brought black and white America closer together.
It will be at least another generation before a black man gets a shot at the white house.
Posted by: John West | 2008-03-20 9:11:36 PM
RE:
Thursday, March 20, 2008
Obama: Typical White People are Racist
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LETTER TO SENATOR BARACK OBAMA
Montreal, February 20, 2008
SENATOR OBAMA ,
The whole world has its eyes on you, on The United States Of America and its people.
Everyone expects you to be democratically elected and see that something happen in America.
In March 1983, one of humanity's most famous spokesmen, Pope John Paul II, came to our country - 'Haîti' - and loudly proclaimed what each and every one of us had been whispering:
'Something must change here.'
Today, more than ever, a lot of people of The United States of America stand up, longing for something and working to make something happen.
And, like in March 9, 1983, beloved Haiti, History - (which from then and now on rests in thy hands) - tells thee: "it is now time to let people speak to thee of love!', let's say today': 'Go thou America ahead and show us thy true countenance in a positive light.' It is up to everyone to play his or her part in order to let thee regain thy mark of excellence !"
With this letter, I am communicating with You, Senator Obama, and with the whole people of The United States of America.
You offer this country what it takes to be a 'Wonderfull Land.' Yes, let us say 'with a great people living together.'
Go thou, America, go ahead, following in the footsteps of one of thy sons who is now becoming one of thy statesmen.
With this in mind, Mr.Obama, to whom else could I entrust this letter sent to his Holiness Pope John Paul II when he set foot on Haitian soil for the first time, as well as its acknowledgment by the Vatican?
That letter to Pope John Paul II is intended to draw attention to the problem posed by anti-Black discrimination and its negative repercussions on the advancement of scientific progress in the West, and more precisely in the realm of Optics.
In the Western world, according to Newton's widely accepted theory, white is considered to be the synthesis of all colors. Actually, the opposite is true. White constitutes the analysis or 'visible' decoding of light or color, whereas black is its synthesis or 'invisible' composition.
In other words, darkness or blackness and, we might add, "Black Holes'"- a scientific misnomer designating invisible stars or 'Black Suns' - are a source of energy and light.
That basic raw material of light energy culminates, in its most radiant form, in the neutralization of all the colors of the spectrum in the form of so-called "white light."
Therefore "absolute blackness", the absorption of all the colors, is a divisible component of light. Needless to say, Newton's theory gives only a partial interpretation of the notion of light, by excluding black. Our contribution aims at demonstrating that the black color is not only an integral part of the color process, but its true synthesis. Light is therefore shown to be a divisible whole comprising an intensity or color scale in which black is the invisible or 'absorbed' form of the energy in question.
Allow me, Senator Obama, in order to support my statement concerning Black Holes and radiation, to pose a question asked by Hubert Reeves, Doctor of nuclear astrophysics and Scientific Consultant to NASA:
What would have become of the Sun, if it were plunged into a high temperature radiance like the one that existed at the beginning of the Universe? [our translation]
Instead of emitting light, it would absorb it and, in the end, it would be completely reabsorbed into the cosmic fluid.
The cosmic fluid is what, due to an "optical mistake", is called "darkness" or the "blackness of space". We are talking about the electromagnetic flux, that immeasurable ocean in which the planets and stars are bathed, like the sea which links all the continents together. Darkness is thus "The Sea of Space."
"What would have happened if, instead of an ordinary star like the "White Sun", a Black Hole or "Black Sun" were injected into that primordial radiation?
"According to Einsteinian Physics, a Black Hole is a place where gravity is so formidably intense that nothing can escape it, not even visible light. Such a hole should suck in and absorb radiation and increase its own mass: E=MC2, always."
"But after Einstein came Bohr, Heisenberg, and Quantum Physic. From then on, nothing was the same as before.
"The Einsteinian version of the Black Hole is equivalent to a statement that the matter inside the Black Hole is definitely there to stay, in that volume of space. Let us quote Hubert Reeves: "Such an absolute statement is thus contrary to the "Quantum spirit", affirming that nothing is definitely localized in one place. There is always a probability of escape. If the enclosing wall is too high, a tunnel will be dug; if the prisoners are patient, they will escape. One has only to wait. [our translation]"
"According to that principle, Black Holes "evaporate." Matter constantly escapes as radiation. Black Holes "shine!" Their surfaces behave like those of any body heated to a certain temperature and that radiation endlessly feeds that marvelous "Cosmic Fluid" which, wrongly and in bad faith, people keep calling "Darkness."
Nigra sum "sed" formosa. Yes, but should we not say instead, I am black "and" comely? Darkness, which is both source and vehicle of light, does not have to defend itself for being the beautiful and infinitely discreet raw material of the Universe. Darkness is the "Mother of the Universe."
Also, beautiful and discreet art thou, Haiti. Discreet, yes, but never outshone! Just like the Black Virgin who inspires and sheds her love on thee from the hilltop and even beyond Cité Soleil (Sun City).
Our purpose was to offer a more constructive approach aiming at correcting the abusive traditional, so-called scientific, theories of Optics. That is why, we wrote to that authentic witness to the signs of this age, His Holiness Pope John Paul II, the prophet of the new era.
Congratulations to You, Sir, and congratulations to the people of The United States Of America, for having made it possible for this day to mark the beginning of a "New Era of Hope !"
Lucien Bonnet
PLease, SEE :
LETTER TO POPE JOHN-PAUL II
in 'BILL A RI AND THERE WAS LIGHT !
http://www.contact-canadahaiti.ca
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WESTERN UNIVERSALISM
"Color cannot be understood except in relation to the person who perceives it," physicist Pierre Demers wrote in the Foreword to this book entitled "BILL A RI AND THERE WAS LIGHT !". He clearly confirms the relevance of this essay. First of all, in fact, we thought it would be useful to consider the civilizational (politico-religious) attitude of the West toward the Blacks, before pointing out the deficiencies of present-day science, which is predominantly Western, in its perception of the Black Universe.
The Western political attitude toward the Blacks has for many centuries been determined by the perverse ruler-servant, master-slave, exploiter-exploited relationship. In order to normalize its policy of enslaving Blacks, Judeo-Christian civilization went so far as to use Christianity to legitimize what today we generally call "crimes against humanity", such as the racist slavery peculiar to the West. That situation was facilitated by the fact that the monotheistic religion, which had originally been universalist, soon limited its horizons to the boundaries of the Western world, while the other peoples — which it thought it had attracted — seemed to find themselves there in spite of themselves. Some might wonder whether the abandonment by the West of Christian universalism does not explain that inability of Judeo-Christian civilization to adopt a universalist attitude, not only in the political but also in the scientific realm.
As a matter of fact, present-day science, dominated for a few centuries by the West, can hardly claim to be "universal", since it is so deeply affected by the Westerners who perceive it. These people have — as we all know — lost any authentically universalist dimension. Did they not, by using and misusing the Bible, attempt to prove the superiority of Western Whites over Blacks and other colored peoples, limiting there too the vast universalist horizons of science to the very boundaries of the West? Everything seems to indicate that science is no longer universal; it is "Western", with all the consequences that implies for humanity and, in particular, for the Black world.
In other words, the Western approach, the Western way of thinking, is far from being scientific, neutral and objective; it is subjective and distorting. Such subjectivity and distortion manifest themselves still more obviously, as we have seen, in the realm of colors, and more specifically when dealing with the concept of "black". One must therefore bring into play the social sciences — history, sociology, psychology, psychoanalysis, political science, etc. — to understand that Western handicap. Indeed, as soon as it has to deal with "black", Western reasoning vacillates, making room for the irrational and its array of fantasies.
The author of the Foreword to this book, a physicist, under went a conversion in 1974, where by he would from then on wholly devote himself to the study of colors. He says that he has been attracted more and more strongly by the multidisciplinary and deeply human nature of the study of colors. He states that the "rational comprehension of colors cannot have the necessary depth, unless all the sciences are called upon: chemistry, biology, physiology, physics, and mathematics”. He even insists: “Once more the human aspect intervenes. Man is both the creator and the necessary vehicle of all sciences. It is doubly true that there is no rational knowledge of color outside of mankind." He thus admits, as we do, though in a roundabout way, that the present understanding of colors leaves much to be desired. Is it not strongly influenced by the dominant contemporary civilization, polluted so long by prejudices against peoples of color, especially Blacks?
Such a serious Western handicap obviously hinders the forward march of universal science as well as that of all mankind. Both are victims of a racist — and therefore anti-scientific, selfish and limited — vision of the world. The case of Haiti, to use an example with which we are very familiar, is a symptom of the non-universalistic attitude of those who rule the world — the Westerners. Although it may still be possible to scientifically correct the erroneous vision of "blackness" fairly quickly, it is much more difficult to improve human behavior from one day to the next, since mentalities evolve rather slowly. In the meantime, we cannot help being aware that the West keeps dragging around its heavy burden of anti-Black prejudice, and that attitude is detrimental to both the Western and Black worlds.
Has not the West, in its relations with the "peoples of color", always supported rulers who are docile slaves to itself, but tyrants to their own peoples?
Be that as it may, like present-day science, whose universalism is now quite questionable, does not the reality of Western world politics distance itself from universalism to plunge into a quasi-particularism aiming only at the promotion and supremacy of the White world?
It is right to quote the universalist Greek philosopher Anaxagoras, who states that "the visible opens our eyes to the invisible". Science, just like color, cannot be understood outside of the person who perceives it.
Lucien Bonnet
PLease, SEE :
"LETTER TO PRESIDENT CLINTON"
in "BILL A RI AND THERE WAS LIGHT !"
http://www.contact-canadahaiti.ca
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LETTER TO PRESIDENT CLINTON
Montreal, March 22, 1995
President William Jefferson Clinton
President of the United States of America
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue N.W.
Washington, DC 20500
U.S.A.
Mister President:
Please allow me to take the opportunity of your visit to Haiti, as President of the United States of America, on March 31, 1995, to pay due tribute in all sincerity to you and your distinguished wife, Mrs. Hillary Rodham Clinton.
You honor Haiti and the Haitian people with your presence and support.
Thanks to you and your allies in the United Nations and the Organization of American States, the return-to-democracy process has been successfully carried out. Now that the legitimate President, Jean Bertrand Aristide, has been reinstated in his official status, it is with legitimate pride, I am sure that he welcomes you to his country. For you, as well as for us, the “Uphold Democracy” operation is truly a beautiful historical moment.
Mr. President, I come from Haiti, that underdeveloped country.
With underdeveloped tools — a camera and a few films — I have tried, in order to serve my country’s cause, to demystify the word “light” and denounce Newton’s Theory of Colors.
With that same desire to serve constitutional legitimacy in my country, I have written the enclosed book entitled Haiti, Let There Be Light! I hope that you and Mrs. Clinton will accept this privately produced copy, especially intended for you, while you are getting ready for your trip to Haiti.
May I make a confession to you, Mr. President? I followed, closely and with intense interest, your electoral campaign, election, and swearing-in ceremony as 42nd President of the United States. What a great nation you represent! Please believe me: your courageous commitment to facilitate the restoration of democracy in my country has escaped no one. On the very day of your swearing-in ceremony, I wished to send you my book, Haïti, Que La Lumière Soit!, which questions Newton’s Theory of Colors. I did not do so, because I felt an English-language version would be more appropriate.
Since I could not send you a copy of the yet-to-be-published English version of my book, I contented myself with dreaming — dreaming that on one of your first evenings in the White House, you were seated in the Oval Room with Mrs. Clinton and your daughter Chelsea. You were reading Haïti, Que La Lumière Soit! I imagined you carefully examining certain passages of that work in its English version, which is now in preparation — typed by a sightless, multilingual Haitian. Those paragraphs deal with the so-called missing matter, darkness in space, “black holes” — in a word: the invisible mass of the Cosmos. You notice Dr. Carl Sagan’s research on Exobiology and the DNA found in the dark matter in the universe, and you suddenly remember a Time article from April 10, 1978 entitled “Black Holes and Martian Valleys”, which contained the following passage:
“A while later, astronomer Carl Sagan (The Dragons of Eden) found himself lugging his slide box into the Vice President’s big new house and, after coffee, taking the Mondale and Carter families on a journey through the heavens.
Jimmy Carter is the closest thing to a scientist we have had in the White House since Thomas Jefferson.
Nixon could not run a tape recorder.
Johnson could not fully figure out his alarm wrist watch.
Not Jimmy. He was fascinated by the discussion of “Black Holes” and the speculation that they might provide answers to what holds the Universe together.”
“Well,” you exclaimed, “O.K. for former President Carter. It is normal for the President of a star-spangled republic to choose between “Star Peace” and “Star War”. As to the former President’s inclination toward Einstein’s physics and/or Planck’s Quantum Theory, there is a great temptation to apply certain laws of the Cosmos to politics and diplomacy. Consider the “Tunnel Effect”, the way that energy escapes from black holes.
“Carter goes back to the sources and draws inspiration from them. That makes me think about Aristide — both of them are well at ease in both the Western world and the Black world: the visible and the invisible. However, there is one difference: the Haitians follow Aristide everywhere, like a comet’s tail. If Aristide is considered as a “Black Sun”, then the Haitians are “space refugees”.
“Yes, Haiti! We are pulled down to earth. Democracy… the exodus of the Boat People… with the Law of Probabilities, whether we think about Planck or Carter, it doesn’t seem that a solution will be found tomorrow…
“What business did the Haitians have in that “boat”?”
“Say, there above, the Black Twin! Is it still broad daylight in the shadow of the “Black Sun”?”
“Oh God,” you say aloud to Mrs. Clinton: “Eureka! I have found it! Fiat lux! Let there be light! Que la lumière soit! Black holes, black sun, tunnel effect, Aristide effect, boat people, space refugees, Carl Sagan, Jimmy Carter… six of one and half a dozen of the other.”
There is loud laughter in the Oval Room.
Bill a ri
Bill laughed
Hillary a ri
Hillary laughed
Chelsea a ri aussi
Chelsea laughed too
Humor is American, Mr. President, and so are dreams. Let my book Haïti, Que La Lumière Soit! be the “dark matter”, arguing in favor of the development of the Black world — visible and invisible!
In the area of science, high technology, creative innovation, and space exploration, I think there is nothing that America cannot deal with. That is why, in that spaceship of universal energy, I dare sail with a dream.
In my dream, it is your first trip inside your SPACE AIR FORCE ONE, propelled by the energy of invisible and concentrated dark matter, like black holes. A mini black hole of an avant-garde design whose motor sequence develops inertia, spectral speed, speed equal to or higher than that of light, and scientifically controlled reversibility of the phenomenon.
What a new synthesis, but also what a liberation!
Synthesis and analysis are two wings of the same bird — contracted and unfolded at the same time, following the heartbeat of the Universe tamed inside the infinitely small: “One small step for man, one giant leap for mankind!”
This would be the natural and constructive counterpart of Newton’s Theory of Light and Colors, which slows down that impulse. This is a necessary change in the name of development and progress humbly submitted on behalf of Haiti: a testimony of gratitude toward mankind. Let us go further, to the other side of the Universe, as suggested by an eyewitness: the Hubble telescope, with its camera.
“… Hubble focused on the centre of the galaxy [M87], an area 500 light-years across. The pictures revealed a spiral structure formed by fast-moving gas clouds being drawn toward the centre, rather like water going down a drain.”
Dr. Harms said the Hubble spectrographic camera was then focused on points 60 light-years across on opposite sides of the spinning disc. This camera breaks down light into its wavelength parts, rather like a prism separates colours in sunlight.” (The Globe and Mail, Thursday, May 26, 1994)
Let us in the long run, replace the camera by a motor run by the ENERGY OF THE YEAR 2000, transforming the DARK MATTER from the invisible to the visible and vice versa. We would there by take advantage of the sequence of colored and colorless light speeds, so as to better visit the Universe, where law and order are transcendent, just as in democracy.
I have decided to write this letter because your leadership, Mr. President, like an inevitable and immeasurable energy, has practically absorbed me, allowing me to express myself.
On October 4, 1994, in the General Assembly of the United Nations, a voice echoed the power of your leadership. In new words, on March 31, 1995, that same voice will repeat:
“Even now, with the peaceful launching of the operation “UPHOLD DEMOCRACY” on 19 September last year, a tropical smile has shed light upon the faces of those who espouse and love peace — Peacemakers, Peacekeepers, and Peacelovers. Together, President Clinton and we have managed to open up a “tunnel” of hope after so much suffering.”
That testimony by President Aristide at the U.N. emphasizes the magnitude of the efforts needed to bring about such a happy conclusion.
Your present trip to Haiti is the strongest confirmation of that sequence of events, and illustrates an unprecedented chapter in the annals of Haiti, as well as in the life of the Haitian people.
Thank you, Mr. President, for associating Haiti with your Strategic Development Initiative (S.D.I.) at the dawn of the “Star Peace”.
Lucien Bonnet
http://www.contact-canadahaiti.ca
PLEASE SEE "LETTER TO PRESIDENT CLINTON"
IN : "BILL A RI AND THERE WAS LIGHT !"
Posted by: Lucien BONNET | 2008-03-20 9:13:28 PM
For some reason only the last part of my comment made it to post.
Black people are segregating themselves. The Obamites along with their pals in the New Black Panthers (I guess the old Panthers got older and wiser and got jobs) want some sort of justice, reparation for slavery although no black person in America today has been a slave, nor has any white person in America today ever been a slave master.
They also want a country for black Americans. I know where there is such a country, in fact, I know where there are several of them ... in Africa or if they don't have the plane fare, they can go to Haiti. And good riddance to those who choose to go.
Oh wait, you mean they want a Black county in the USA? Don't want to get too far away from the opportunities that come from the horrid white economy? What hypocrites. What idiots. I am sure there are many blacks in America who are happy to part of the larger American society. I would like them to star coming forward and telling the Obamites to f**k off before they do too much harm to the race relations that have been on the mend since Marin Luther King's great dream.
I want to like black people and want them to be my fiends, but it's up to them.
The Obamites may have unwittingly opened the door to for white America to be able to start critising their obstinence and resentment toward whitey and thereby put a dent in the political correctness that has silenced whites which has permited blacks to shit on us with impunity.
They need to know that you can catch a lot more flies with sugar than with vinegar.
Time to grow up and get over it. We are all in it together. White people are tax-slave just like any other Americans. We all have to scratch and claw our way into a decent standard of living. There are many whits living in double wides who have the same opportunities as blacks.
Know one is rich because they are white. The richest woman in America is Opra Winfree. The secretary of state is a black woman. Many of the highest paid athletes and entertainers in America are black people. The highest paid golfer in America is Tiger Woods, a black man. He is so because he used his talents and skills to earn his way to the top.
I am sick of the whining from the so called minority groups and that goes for our own molly coddled native Indians in Canada as well.
There is opportunity for the more motivated and squalor for the less motivated. The beauty of the great free free Western society is that we are all free to choose out destiny. There is also ample support for the truly disadvantaged.
Posted by: John West | 2008-03-20 9:13:55 PM
John West,
"It will be at least another generation before a black man gets a shot at the white house."
You just finished railing against this supposed racist and yet you just made an incredibly sweeping indictment. Even if everything you've remarkably deduced about Obama is true, kindly explain how that indicts an entire generation of blacks.
You just proved the ultimate truth. Those who are protesting a bit too much over this silliness are exposing the truth about themselves.
Posted by: jld | 2008-03-20 9:14:55 PM
My grandmother was also racist, so I feel exactly like Obama. I hope he wins the election.
Posted by: monk E. | 2008-03-20 9:53:04 PM
Obama is a typical black guy.
Posted by: philanthropist | 2008-03-20 10:08:42 PM
Obama is not a typical black guy, in my opinion. He's not a typical guy, period. He doesn't seem to have any humility at all.
He has the advantage of being able to shoot from both sides of the field. He can criticize his black pastor and his white grandma without catching any real criticism from either side. It's the sort of position that could make him a great bridge builder, but I'm afraid he's not the guy to pull it off. He's starting to look like an angry man.
I think the US is ready for a black president. I really didn't at the beginning of the campaign. If it hadn't been for these latest revelations Obama could have gone all the way. How about a black candidate who actually lived the American experience? There are some well qualified ones out there. It's only a matter of time.
Posted by: dp | 2008-03-20 10:30:44 PM
H2O's got it.
"Today, most whites, myself included, would feel very uncomfortable in a totally black neighborhood, particularly at night. What has happened in the last thirty years? Well, Jesse Jackson summed up the reasonableness of white fear in black neighborhoods when he recently said, "There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery--then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved."
So the fear is not irrational. To finish the story, however, when Jackson was later condemned for telling what is clearly the truth, he gave a ludicrous explanation. He said, in effect, what I really meant was that if I saw a white face I would know that whites were moving into the neighborhood and that there would therefore be more cops around. Poor man. Plain fear of his colleagues caused him to so demean himself. But, as his earlier and more honest remarks had conceded, fear of black crime is not irrational or rooted in prejudice.
In New York City, 57 per cent of those in prison are black and 35 per cent Hispanic. According to Department of Justice statistics, 45 per cent of violent crimes are committed by black males, who are only 6 per cent of the population. And black males aged 15 to 24, who are 1 per cent of the population, are responsible for at least 19 per cent of the murders."
Posted by: DJ | 2008-03-20 10:31:55 PM
Tuesday, October 04, 2005
The Color of Crime
By Nicholas Stix
Imagine if one demographic group in America were 33 times more prone to commit crimes than another group. How would you feel about the relatively crime-prone group? The relatively crime-free group? Wouldn’t you want to know about such differences?
But we don’t have to imagine anything. The above contrast was not a hypothetical case, but rather the statistical relationship of black to Asian crime in America, as detailed in the ground-breaking new report, The Color of Crime, released by the New Century Foundation, the organization that sponsors American Renaissance magazine.
* “… between 2001 and 2003, blacks were 39 times more likely to commit violent crimes against whites than the reverse, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.”
* Between 2001 and 2003, blacks committed, on average, 15,400 black-on-white rapes per year, while whites averaged only 900 white-on-black rapes per year.
* “Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving blacks and whites, blacks commit 85 percent and whites commit 15 percent.”
Posted by: DJ | 2008-03-20 10:35:12 PM
1992 LA riot...
"Although “racism” was trumpeted as the great sin that prompted the riots, the media were remarkably quiet about the many cases of vicious racist violence by blacks against whites. The best-known was an attack on a truck driver, Reginald Denny, who was pulled from his tractor trailer by blacks who beat him mercilessly and smashed his face with a fire extinguisher. Other blacks ran up to stomp the barely breathing Mr. Denny, and dance little jigs of glee. Doctors said the man’s injuries were like those of someone who was in a 60-mile-per-hour car crash without seat belts. The only reason Mr. Denny is well known is that a helicopter TV crew happened to tape the attack. [Rescued truck driver is recovering, SF Chronicle, May 4, 1992, p. A6.] From below, blacks fired on the helicopter with pistols and shotguns. [Ed Pope, L.A. goes back to work, SJ Mercury News, May 5, 1992, p. 1.]
Few people heard about Matt Haines, a 32-year-old white man who, with his nephew, was riding a motorcycle into the black part of Los Angeles after a black friend called to say that her car would not start. The two whites were stopped by a gang of about 15 blacks, who knocked them off the motorcycle and beat them as they lay on the ground. Without provocation, one of the blacks shot Mr. Haines in the head. His nephew was shot three times in the arm, but when the gunman held the pistol to his face the weapon did not fire. Mr. Haines died; his nephew survived. [“We’re on your side,” victim told attackers, SJ Mercury News, May 4, 1992, p. 9A.]"
Howard Epstein, who was living in northern California, flew to Los Angeles at the start of the riots to protect his Los Angeles machine shop and its employees. Three black men shot him as he was driving from the airport. After his car crashed to a stop, looters stripped him of valuables and ransacked the car. [Orinda man’s fatal decision: trying to protect his shop, SJ Mercury News, May 4, 1992, p. 9A.]
The media, which make a national incident of a dangerous black who is beaten with night sticks, look the other way when blacks commit unprovoked racial murder.
A gang of blacks smashed the car windows of Jeff Kramer, a white reporter for the Boston Globe. They tried to drag him out onto the street, but his seat belt held him in. One youngster then pulled out a gun and shot him three times. Mr. Kramer had the wit to pretend to be dead, and this probably saved his life. [Tom Mathews, et al., The siege of L.A., Newsweek, May 11, 1992, p. 34.]
Posted by: DJ | 2008-03-20 10:41:17 PM
Even if everything you've remarkably deduced about Obama is true, kindly explain how that indicts an entire generation of blacks.
You just proved the ultimate truth. Those who are protesting a bit too much over this silliness are exposing the truth about themselves.
Posted by: jld | 20-Mar-08 9:14:55 PM
Well, jld,
Congratulations on owning a compute and being able to read. All that remains is for you to learn how to understand the meaning of the words.
In answer to your first brain fart.
The meaning of my comment was that Obama and his black community indited themselve. The voters in America will not trust a black person after finding out how deep the black liberation, black panther and Marxist philosophies run in the black community.
Also, that what looked like a messiah turned out to be just another lying Liberal politician. Obama is no long electable. Further, if he were elected by some strange twilight zone event, after one term, if he isn't assassinated, would so f**k up America that no Democrat would have a shot at the white house for 20 year.
One term of Jimmy Carter gave us Ronald Reagan then George Bush. Then 12 years later after Reagan repaired the economy Clinton got to lunch on it for two full terms of prosperity that he had little to do with. His dishonesty and lusty immoral behavior gave us two terms of GW Bush.
Having now found out what is really behind Obama, we will likely now get John McCaine followed by a couple of terms of perhaps Mitt Romney.
The dots connect if you think about it.
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To answer your next stupid remark .... You know NOTHING about me.
I don't think you know much about yourself for that matter.
You really should stick to your XBox.
Posted by: John West | 2008-03-20 11:02:12 PM
NOT THIS TIME.
This time we want to talk about the crumbling schools that are stealing the future of black children and white children and Asian children and Hispanic children and Native American children. This time we want to reject the cynicism that tells us that these kids can't learn; that those kids who don't look like us are somebody else's problem. The children of America are not those kids, they are our kids, and we will not let them fall behind in a 21st century economy. Not this time.
This time we want to talk about how the lines in the Emergency Room are filled with whites and blacks and Hispanics who do not have health care; who don't have the power on their own to overcome the special interests in Washington, but who can take them on if we do it together.
This time we want to talk about the shuttered mills that once provided a decent life for men and women of every race, and the homes for sale that once belonged to Americans from every religion, every region, every walk of life. This time we want to talk about the fact that the real problem is not that someone who doesn't look like you might take your job; it's that the corporation you work for will ship it overseas for nothing more than a profit.
This time we want to talk about the men and women of every color and creed who serve together, and fight together, and bleed together under the same proud flag. We want to talk about how to bring them home from a war that never should've been authorized and never should've been waged, and we want to talk about how we'll show our patriotism by caring for them, and their families, and giving them the benefits they have earned.
Posted by: wtfyall | 2008-03-20 11:29:24 PM
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Posted by: JD | 2008-03-20 11:47:26 PM
True or False
Barack challenges us to do better.
So when you mention a Black person are
your comments typically positive or negative.
When you see a Black person on the news
or discussed on talk radio is the story
typically positive or negative?
Posted by: Mr. Unite Us | 2008-03-20 11:53:00 PM
NOT THIS TIME
When do talk about the reason behind crumbling infrastructure in cities like Detroit, St. Louis, Gary, Indiana and South LA, many of whom have black mayors? When do we talk about the hugely disproportionate level of black-on-white crime in these neighbourhoods?
NOT THIS TIME
When do we talk about Katrina and roving black gangs shooting upon Emergency Rooms and helicopters trying to airlift patients, from the hospital rooftops to safety? When do we talk about black officers of the NOPD stealing from vacated stores?
NOT THIS TIME
When do we talk about the traitors, like Obama, Clinton and McCain who support mass immigration, both legal and illegal that is reducing the wages of the US working class to third world levels?
NOT THIS TIME
When do we talk about the disproportionate battlefield deaths of poor rural whites in this war? When do we talk of equality of sacrifice?
NOT THIS TIME
Posted by: DJ | 2008-03-21 12:58:16 AM
When Barack Obama interviewed for a job in 1985, he found himself instinctively distrustful of the man who would become his employer — in part because of the man’s skin color.
“There was something about him that made me wary,” Obama recalled in his memoir, “Dreams From My Father.” “A little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.”
Posted by: CommonSenseVoter | 2008-03-21 1:27:43 AM
John West: I'm really glad that you brought up Jimmy Carter. I agree with you completely. Americans need to learn from history! Just because they are dissatisfied with the current president's party is not a sufficient reason to blindly vote for the other party. It was a huge disaster with Carter and it would be a huge disaster now.
Posted by: Michel C | 2008-03-21 2:28:42 AM
O THOSE WHO BASH OBAMA:
I'm reading these comments and see that the spirit in White People now, is the same as it was during slavery time just not as overt. I think corruption is just in your DNA and many of you cannot help the way that you are. There is something very evil about SOME of you people. Is there any good in many of you? Why won't you separate yourself from each other as you expect Senator Obama to separate himself from Rev. Wright? Rev. Wright is not a racist like many of you are. What he said this country does and what it represents is true. You hate Rev. Wright because you can't stand looking in the mirror that he has put in front of your face so you can see yourself. You hate to see what you look like, that’s where your anger comes from. Don’t think that Senator Obama is the problem. He did not create the racial mess in this country, yet he’s willing to help solve many issues.
This country will never get over racism as long as people like most of you don’t change your ways. Just as Senator Obama said in his speech, you spate out your racist remarks behind closed doors and on the Internet and pretend that you are not part of the problem in America. This is one reason why Americans are hated all over the world. We want to dictate to other Countries about human rights and we don’t even enforce them in our own country. Do we not realize when we use the Internet our comments are read all over the world. What message are we sending to those in other countries? They can only see that we’re hypocrites.
Obama want to save us all. I don't hear Hillary or McCain preaching Unification, or coming together to solve racial problems in this country. Many of you don’t even realize you’re being played like a pawn. Senator Obama tried to explain this to you in his speech. If you are not rich, you cannot afford to get the wrong person in the White House, we’re headed for a recession. This is a Capitalistic society. It doesn’t matter what color you are. It’s all about the money. Rich people of ALL RACES are privileged. The media play on ignorant poor, low income people of all races including White. White people are played like a pawn and, The MEDIA make them think that they are all that, just to keep the racism game going on. There are many Whites who feel disenfranchised because they are poor. Poor people are all affected economically the same way no matter what your race The Media knows how to light the fuel of racism especially during a recession or an election. They know Poor Whites think they should be privileged. You see the Media knows that they have been very effective making White people think they are. If you are on the verge of losing your job, have maxed out your credit card, living from pay check to pay check, living in a trailer, can’t send your kids to college and MUST have a job, don’t consider yourself rich. You can only dream. You are like most of us. You can’t play with the big boys. You will be affected by this economy just like everyone else. Don’t let the media fool you. You cannot afford to PLAY the political game if you’re NOT rich. If you’re not rich, you will be discriminated against no matter what color you are. Everyone knows that. Well, maybe not.
We need to hold our elected officials to higher standards. We all pay their salaries with our tax dollars and they should be accountable. They should be honest and fair to all people. After all, this is the government of the people, for the people and by the people.
Posted by: sally | 2008-03-21 2:35:59 AM
Sally,
"I'm reading these comments and see that the spirit in White People now, is the same as it was during slavery time just not as overt. "
All that from a blog where identities are anonymous...including skin colour.
Are you psychic? I'm thinking of a number between 1 and 3? What is it?
Posted by: h2o273kk9 | 2008-03-21 5:53:16 AM
Sally
"Just as Senator Obama said in his speech, you spate out your racist remarks behind closed doors and on the Internet and pretend that you are not part of the problem in America. "
I agree, racist comments like
"I'm reading these comments and see that the spirit in White People now, is the same as it was during slavery time just not as overt."
are part of the problem. However, the BIGGEST part of the problem is the racists who think that it's just the others who are racists.
Posted by: h2o273kk9 | 2008-03-21 6:01:34 AM
IT'S ONLY "TYPICAL" THAT OBAMA SAID " TYPICAL WHITE PEOPLE" CAUSE HE IS RACIST AND LOOK AT THE COMPANY HE KEEPS, THE MOST RACIST PEOPLE IN THE WORLD , J. JACKSON, REV. WRIGHT, AL SHARPTON, LOUIS FAIRICON. WE SHOULD NEVER HAVE A PRESIDENT THAT WOULD SAY SUCH A THING. WE WILL NEVER BE EQUAL INTILL "THEY" GET RID OF THE BLACK COLLEGE FUND AND MISS BLACK AMERCIA AND ALL THE OTHER SPECIAL THINGS THEY GET TO HAVE, THAT WE DON'T.WE WOULD HAVE A CRISIS IF US "TYPICAL WHITE PEOPLE TRIED TO HAVE THAT.JUST GET OVER IT, BLACKS HAVE ALL THE RIGHTS AND THEN SOME THAT WE HAVE.
Posted by: TRISH | 2008-03-21 7:28:47 AM
IT'S ONLY "TYPICAL" THAT OBAMA SAID " TYPICAL WHITE PEOPLE" CAUSE HE IS RACIST AND LOOK AT THE COMPANY HE KEEPS, THE MOST RACIST PEOPLE IN THE WORLD , J. JACKSON, REV. WRIGHT, AL SHARPTON, LOUIS FAIRICON. WE SHOULD NEVER HAVE A PRESIDENT THAT WOULD SAY SUCH A THING. WE WILL NEVER BE EQUAL INTILL "THEY" GET RID OF THE BLACK COLLEGE FUND AND MISS BLACK AMERCIA AND ALL THE OTHER SPECIAL THINGS THEY GET TO HAVE, THAT WE DON'T.WE WOULD HAVE A CRISIS IF US "TYPICAL WHITE PEOPLE TRIED TO HAVE THAT.JUST GET OVER IT, BLACKS HAVE ALL THE RIGHTS AND THEN SOME THAT WE HAVE.
Posted by: TRISH | 2008-03-21 7:28:54 AM
Obama is our Savior! Obama and Reverend Wright are RIGHT! God D*** america. Obama will apologize to our Muslim brothers for an arrogant america. Let us choose now to rally around Barak and Michelle and make them proud. No more so called "elections" which your "typical white person" votes for clinton. They are racists!
Posted by: Obamamania | 2008-03-21 8:51:18 AM
So Typical and myabe Obama is Wright? Gee, it turns out that this incendiary minister Pastor Wright was invited to pray with Bill Clinton at the White House. Is it so hard to fathom that there’s more to this fiery pastor than YouTube snippets? Is it such a stretch for the people that like so many of his generation he still harbors resentment and racism from our troubled past yet still on a whole preaches a message broader and more inclusive of all people than the contextual vitriol of sermons?
Maybe, just maybe, there is another perspective and a generation that recognizes these statements for what they are and sees the greater good done by this inner city Black church. Maybe there are people in this country who still struggle with the racial divide and despite failings and faults are on a whole doing God’s work. Can we unwrap ourselves from the flag for a moment and see the struggle of the inner city black community and the devastation of generations of racism and poverty? Hear the pain. Love the person and raise the discussion to a higher level.
I am typical man who leads a typical life. My mother is a typical grandmother living in a typical small city in a typical coal town in Pennsylvania with the typical pictures of grandkids around her typical senior apartment. As is typical, I called her and she is NOT offended by what she describes as the typical media sensationalism regards to a remark by Obama about his typical white grandmother. Let’s do something untypical: raise the discussion UP. We have too many serious problems in this country to conduct our politics in the typical fashion of the last three decades!
Posted by: JIm McGrath | 2008-03-21 9:10:10 AM
obamania
"No more so called "elections" which your "typical white person" votes for clinton. They are racists!"
Wow, are you ever at the wrong blog site.
I surmise that the typical white voter at this blog site is Canadian and can't vote there.
Posted by: h2o273kk9 | 2008-03-21 9:11:12 AM
Is what he said wrong? I don't understand why everyone is so offended? Is it typical or not? If one is afraid than say so? I admit that I get scared if a group of black guys in hoodies come towards me. So what? Maybe if we can all be honest for once, than the issues can be addressed. Instead we seem to ignore it, and like cancer, it just keeps growing until one day where America might just lose its power. Its happened to all og the great powers before us I just hope we don't figure it out when its too late.
Posted by: kc | 2008-03-21 9:42:48 AM
kc,
There appears to be several interweaving threads of thought on the issue.
Is what Obama said true?
Is it racist to say/think the way Obama says is typical?
Is it hypocritical to believe that only whites are like this? Racist even?
Posted by: h2o273kk9 | 2008-03-21 9:58:52 AM
He was talikng about his white grandmother. We do not know the context of what he was saying. Is it safe to assume that off of one snipet of information, we would not be able to call some one hypocritical? He didn't say his grandmother was racist. I believe racism is one of the faces of mis-understanding and hatred. Hate that resides in all of us, in one form or another. These conversations are going in circles. This one is racist, that one is racist. What is the point of it all? All of us are human and therefore fallible.
Posted by: kc | 2008-03-21 10:36:44 AM
I wish this blogger had posted the clarification that his office gave..namely that he meant typical white people of his grandmother's generation.
Give this man a break...he has been campaigning non-stop, gave the speech of his life, is seeing his campaign impoloding...and after giving a speech on not stereotyping, do you really think he would make a stupid mistake like that unless he misspoke or was tired? For God's sake, even Chris Wallace from Fox has given him a pass on this one.
Posted by: katia | 2008-03-21 10:48:09 AM
I'll give Obama credit for one thing ... his rhetoric has moved beyond the message of Black Liberation Theology (see Glenn Beck website for an expose from former US ambassador to the UN).
In that sense, he's more forward-looking like Martin Luther King, rather than a rehasher of historical wrongs like the religious Wright and the assortment of leaders like Jessee Jackson, Louis Farrakhan and Black Pather leadership who advocate violent solutions.
One thing about history ... nobody can change it.
I happen to have white skin but to the best of my knowledge, neither I or my ancestors have owned slaves, although there are plenty of instances in history where even white people were enslaved.
Condemn yourself to living in the past or deal with issues as they happen today?
As Beck points out, Mitt Romney seemed to have been held to a diffeerent level of scrutiny by the MSM.
Posted by: set you free | 2008-03-21 10:48:27 AM
I wish this blogger had posted the clarification that his office gave..namely that he meant typical white people of his grandmother's generation.
Give this man a break...he has been campaigning non-stop, gave the speech of his life, is seeing his campaign impoloding...and after giving a speech on not stereotyping, do you really think he would make a stupid mistake like that unless he misspoke or was tired? For God's sake, even Chris Wallace from Fox has given him a pass on this one.
Posted by: katia | 2008-03-21 11:00:29 AM
Katia,
"I wish this blogger had posted the clarification that his office gave..namely that he meant typical white people of his grandmother's generation."
You may have a point. However, at this time I would like to point to the hounding of Trent Lott.
Still, two wrongs don't make a right. So allow me to take a different direction.
Typical white people of this generation are tired of the seemingly one way street where the Obamas gets a pass on these gaffs and others do not get the same benefit of the doubt.
Identity politics is now being shown for the destructive and divisive garbage it is. I am actually enjoying watching its adherents (namely the Democrats) turn themselves into pretzels. If it isn't mysogyny they are complaining about (ie. Hillary's treatment), it is racism (Obama's treatment).
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Posted by: Paulo | 2008-03-21 11:12:05 AM
According to him typical White people are racist, eh? How about typical Black people are racist? The people who throw around the label racist at the drop of the hat are typically racist themselves.
I admit to finding American race politics boring, to say the least.
Posted by: Alain | 2008-03-21 1:09:22 PM
"I admit to finding American race politics boring, to say the least." Alain
Typical
Posted by: Markalta | 2008-03-21 1:14:04 PM
It is something when words can turn people into peons. The media has served its purpose once again....It's about money not race. It's about economy not skin color.
Just looking at the post makes me LAUGH OUT LOUD. You people are stupid... Sally wrote the truth and you nitpick one line out of many in her post...TYPICAL DUMB PEOPLE!!
HA HA HA A HA AH.... WATCH THEM KEEP GOING OFF...while the rest of us go make our next million....
Posted by: Wow | 2008-03-21 1:58:24 PM
Wow,
"Just looking at the post makes me LAUGH OUT LOUD. You people are stupid..."
Now you've gone and hurt my feelings. Sally, too.
Posted by: h2o273kk9 | 2008-03-21 2:13:57 PM
I am so relieved that we have finally set the standard. It is now OK for me to point at a black hip-hop gangbanger and say, "That a "typical black person". Obama has certainly added his version of healing to the dialog. One man's racism is just another's innocent comment, huh?
Posted by: Don | 2008-03-21 7:46:38 PM
Note Obama said "The point I was making was not that my grandmother harbors any racial animosity, but that she is a typical white person." That means the "typical" white person (as he defines it) is NOT racist. You dumb fucks need to learn how to read.
Posted by: Ricky | 2008-03-21 8:52:19 PM
>"That means the "typical" white person (as he defines it) is NOT racist.
Ricky | 21-Mar-08 8:52:19 PM
Of course the typical white person is not racist.
If we were, only white people would have the vote.
Whose type are we talking about when we talk about types anyway?
Is it how white people type each other, the majority, or is it how a person who wants white votes who represents Black Power, a minority displayed by the Reverend Jeremiah Wright, types white people?
Regardless, every type of person has a feeling of solidarity with a group.
What group of people does Barak Obama feel solidarity with?
Clearly it is not Americans.
Posted by: Speller | 2008-03-21 9:20:13 PM
According to his 1995 autobiography, Dreams from My Father, Obama also feared black men...
Steve Sailer:
Here's a topical excerpt from pp. 269-271, which concerns Obama's life in Chicago when he was in his mid-20s. In it, Obama expresses the same supposed anti-black "racism" which he recently attributed to his 85-year-old grandma.
"That night, well past midnight, a car pulls up in front of my apartment building, carrying a troop of teenage boys and a set of stereo speakers so loud that the floor of my apartment begins to shake. I've learned to ignore such disturbances -- where else do they have to go? I say to myself. But on this particular evening I have someone staying over ...
"'Listen, people, are trying to sleep around here. Why don't y'all take it someplace else?'
"The four boys inside say nothing, don't even move. The wind wipes away my drowsiness, and I feel suddenly exposed, standing in a pair of shorts on the sidewalk in the middle of the night.... One of them could be Kyle. One of them could be Roy. One of them could be Johnnie."
Kyle, Roy, and Johnnie are all black male characters in Dreams from My Father -- in other words, as Obama's grandfather might say, the fellas in the car are black. Obama then proceeds to make stereotypical assumptions about young black males:
"I start picturing myself through the eyes of these boys, a figure of random authority, and know the calculations they might now be making, that if one of them can't take me out, the four of them certainly can."
The chapter ends:
"The engine starts, and the car screeches away. I turn back toward my apartment knowing that I've been both stupid and lucky, knowing that I am afraid after all."
Shocking, isn't it?"
Posted by: DJ | 2008-03-21 9:33:46 PM
>"Shocking, isn't it?"
DJ | 21-Mar-08 9:33:46 PM
Shockingly bad judgement on the part of someone who will make judgements for us all if he becomes POTUS.
Posted by: Speller | 2008-03-21 9:54:23 PM
I find it ironic that Obama would refer to his grandmother as a "typical white person" after he had confessed to the same concerns in his book:
-- Barack Obama from 'Dreams of My Father',
"When his grandmother wants a ride to work because the day before, while awaiting the bus, she was threatened by a black panhandler, he is outraged -- at his grandparents. . . Later, when he moves to the South Side of Chicago in 1984, he eventually discovers that, like his grandmother, he’s sometimes scared of black males on the street, too."
And the concerns are shared by others:
-- The Reverend Jesse Jackson, as quoted in US News, 3/10/96,
"There is nothing more painful to me ... than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery, then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved. "
The point being, if Jesse, Barack and his grandmother all admit to stereotyping in this case, why didn't Barack simply say "typical person".
Posted by: panola | 2008-03-22 4:14:53 AM
Ricky
" That means the "typical" white person (as he defines it) is NOT racist. You dumb fucks need to learn how to read."
Resorting to foul language indicates a lack of ability to argue coherently.
Any mention of race and generalizing a disposition is racist. It doesn't even have to be criticism. Some people have lost jobs for saying something similar to the following:
"Blacks have rhythm"
Either hold Obama to the same standard or change the standard for everyone. That's the essence of being colour-blind, isn't it?
Posted by: h2o273kk9 | 2008-03-22 6:54:15 AM
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