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Saturday, September 30, 2006

France vs. Israel

France_vs_israel Of course the UN force in Lebanon is not about disarming Hezbollah. And they're certainly not about protecting Israel from terrorist raids. As this news report demonstrates -- and this photo suggests -- the UN is there to protect the terrorists from Israel. Of course, the UN troops in question were French.

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So you're criticizing the force sent in to enforce the ceasefire for.... enforcing the ceasefire??

Israel is an invading army in Lebanon. As such they have no right to go and chase down Hizbullah fighters, or anyone else for that matter. It is explicitly part of the UN mandate to prevent any such provocation.

Posted by: Chris | 2006-09-30 10:16:25 AM


The French "UN Forces" are actively supporting Hezbollah, and attempted to stop the IDF from pursuing the theft of IDF arms and munitions from
an Israeli Kibbutz by Hebollah members.France has
many business connections and investments in Lebanon and Iran, and cannot be trusted in the international
sector to support the West, and are actively hostile
to the State of Israel, which PM Harper observed
first hand at the "Francaphonie Conference". UN Forces have done nothing to supress Hezbollah, who
now claim to have some 20,000 rockets aimed at Israel. Israel is on our side. Harper GOVERNMENT SHOULD INVEST IN ISRAEL. MacLeod

Posted by: Jack MacLeod | 2006-09-30 10:36:09 AM


No right to chase down Hizbullah fighters? Which planet have you been on for the last three months? Israel has every right to kill Nasrallah and those who support explicit civilian targeting. Look at Hizbullah tactics and realize that they are an evil organization.

Posted by: Eitan | 2006-09-30 10:40:25 AM


How come Hezbollah is always getting a pass, like the Islamofascists?

WHAT IS WRONG WITH OUR WORLD? 'Anyone else smell the sulphur?

Posted by: 'been around the block | 2006-09-30 10:59:56 AM


Of course, there's Chirac...

Posted by: 'been around the block | 2006-09-30 11:00:49 AM


Hezbollah is holding half of Lebanon hostage. Where is the voice to support the Christian population of Lebanon - i.e. the natural population? (By virtue of the fact that they were evangelized by Christ himself, and not an invading force. The Muslims have perpetually invaded and persecuted the Christian Lebanese since the beginning of Islam.) The last time the West negotiated 'peace' the (supposedly) disarmed Hezbollah - and then merged tham into the Lebanese army!! No wonder the Lebanese could not help themselves this time!

Yes - the French, as usual have only their own self interest in mind, not Lebanon, Hezbollah or Israel - they are only motivated to do what they perceive will advance French power and wealth. They seem to have a pattern of doing this throughout history. THEY ARE NOT OUR KIND OF COUNTRY!!!WE DO NOT WANT TO BUDDY UP TO THEM! THEY ARE NOT GOOD FRIENDS TO ANYONE!

Sorry, its bugging me.

Posted by: lwestin | 2006-09-30 11:12:54 AM


Welcome back Iwestin.

I do like what PM SH did at the Francophony, insisting that civilians in both countries were the victims of violence, the type the pope pointed out was incompatible with God.

If Chretien or Martin had been there, the one-sided victimization of Lebanon resolution would have passed unanimously.

Posted by: Set you free | 2006-09-30 11:20:07 AM


Prime Minister Stephen Harper is not a wimp!

Posted by: 'been around the block | 2006-09-30 11:23:53 AM


At this moment there are Federal Bureaucrats in Industry Canada, Public Works Canada, DND and ACOA
attempting to delay or cancel the purchase of US
built heavy lift aircraft for the Canadian Forces
in favor of the EADS A400M Transport which does not in fact exist. Meanwhile EADS wants Canada to buy
EADS CASA Search and Rescue aircraft. I don't think that Canada should buy any military equipment from
French companies whatever. In fact we do not need
any significant trade agreements with France.

Posted by: Jack MacLeod | 2006-09-30 11:54:32 AM


"Israel has every right to kill Nasrallah and those who support explicit civilian targeting. "

No.

Actually they don't.

They are citizens of Lebanon whether you like it or not.

Israel is another sovereign country and they signed a ceasefire... it's perfectly within their rights to pressure the Lebanese and UN forces to constrict the movements of, and prosecute Hizbullah fighters... but that's it.

Posted by: Chris | 2006-09-30 12:03:55 PM


Hizbullah tactics?

Lobbing inaccurate rockets at Israel?

While Israel blankets most of Souther Lebanon with 100s of 1000s of undetonated cluster bomblets that will, according to UN estimates, kill hundreds of innocent Lebanese people before they are finally cleared by 2008.

Posted by: Chris | 2006-09-30 12:07:52 PM


VIVE LE FRANCE! VIVE LE LIBERTE!

Posted by: wandalady | 2006-09-30 12:15:56 PM


Chris,

Your support and appeasement of Hezbollah is touching, the fact is, if the UN would have disarmed Hezbollah in the first place, which was their mandate, then and now, there would have been no reprisal.

Instead Hezbollah moved in rockets, then and now, under the direct watch of the UN. Disgraceful and very dangerous to the Lebanese people.

If Hezbollah would not have kidnapped Israeli citizens and lobbed missiles into Israel there would have been no reprisal. Ask the innocent Israeli people who were injured or maimed by the "inaccurate missiles" how effective they were.

The Lebanese people, by allowing Hezbollah to launch these missiles and attacks from their yards are implicate and are anything but innocent.

The UN and the Lebanese people themselves are guilty for the damage that has been inflicted, and will be again, on the country.

So get your head out of your ying yang and start facing reality. Siding with terrorists is a dangerous, as well as a ridiculous stance.

Both for you, and the Lebanese people.

Posted by: deepblue | 2006-09-30 12:40:54 PM


IDF fired about one million cluster bombs into
Lebanon. These are notproscribed nor forbidden by
International Law. Picking up the Bomblets will keep
a lot of the bastards busy for months, and sure the
munitions blow up. Maybe they can talk their French friends into helping them. Hezbollah (Iran) owns
Lebanon and have since 1982. Now Hezbollah and Iran
a exporting people and rocket munitions to Cuba and
Venezeula. France is not on OUR side. MacLeod

Posted by: Jack MacLeod | 2006-09-30 12:57:29 PM


deepblue:

Let us not forget there has been a UN presence in South Lebanon since 1982.

It got to be such a cozy arrangement that Hizb'allah was able to built tunnels and weapons caches right underneath UN observation posts close to the border.

As far as France not being on our side ... well. that's pretty obvious.

The tragedy of the situation is that Chretien and his ilk mimicked their foreign policy exactly to France's foreign policy ... and the Canadian electorate actually believed this demonstrated some level of sophistication vis a vis US policy.

It's quite a lot of fun watching the mythology unravel, especially at the Francophony.

BTW, I didn't know Egypt was a French-speaking country. Algeria, as a former French colony, sure. And Lebanon. But Egypt? How did they get to the Francophony.

And what about Bulgaria? It seems like some of these things are not like the others, some of these things don't belong.

Is there another thread more appropriate to discuss this?

Posted by: Set you free | 2006-09-30 1:10:10 PM


Let's play "Jeopardy"

A: "These UNIFIL countries haven't won a war in generations."

Q: "What are Belgium, Brunei, Bulgaria, China, Finland, France, Germany, Ghana, Greece, Indonesia, Italy, Ireland, Malaysia, Nepal, Norway, Poland, Russia, Spain, Turkey, and Ukraine."

This entire force, which numbers almost 14,000, is no match for either Hezbollah or Israel. Should the war start up again, I wouldn't want to be in UNIFIL - the Israelis don't care if they get in the way (can't say I blame them), and Hezbollah will use them as shields and to propagandize their cause.

Mr. Harper should be commended for not sending soldiers to this mission. He clearly saw the dangers involved.

Posted by: Zebulon Pike | 2006-09-30 1:44:17 PM


Set You Free:

The Francophonie is just a club nowadays, relying on these new members to stay afloat.

The Commonwealth used the old British ties to start out, but expanded to include all kinds of political, cultural, social and economic links. It's probably the single best international organization out there.

The Francophonie, on the other hand, is purely cultural. These new members are just there to make the organization look more impressive. More people in the United States speak French than in some of these members, including Canada.

Posted by: Zebulon Pike | 2006-09-30 1:50:49 PM


Jack MacLeod wrote:At this moment there are Federal Bureaucrats in Industry Canada, Public Works Canada, DND and ACOA
attempting to delay or cancel the purchase of US
built heavy lift aircraft for the Canadian Forces
in favor of the EADS A400M Transport which does not in fact exist.

And so they should delay the purchase, not to buy the A400 but the An-124-100 which is an all-round superior aircraft to the C-17

Posted by: No Spin Zone | 2006-09-30 2:03:40 PM


NSZ: I disagree - the Antonov is an unknown quantity. The C-17 is a proven design, albeit an expensive one.

Truth be told, either will be good, but my favorite is the C-17.

Posted by: Zebulon Pike | 2006-09-30 2:05:25 PM


NSZ: I disagree - the Antonov is an unknown quantity. The C-17 is a proven design, albeit an expensive one.

The An-124-100 has been flying since the late 80’s so it has been around for a while. It meets all western civil standards and has an estimated life of 50 years. Plus we could get more of them than the C-17’s for the same money.

Posted by: No Spin Zone | 2006-09-30 2:20:27 PM


Well I won't debate which aircraft is better. I'm just grateful that Harper decided to move ahead with the project. That's right, Liebrals - he made a decision. Something you people either can't do or refuse to do.

Posted by: Zebulon Pike | 2006-09-30 2:33:33 PM


Very familier with the An-12-100, great heavy lift aircraft, but Canadian and US Certification for the
Russian (Ukrainian) aircraft would take several years to secure. C-17 an original McDonnell Douglas
Design is the right choice. Meanwhile, leasing the
"Annies" through Skylink Toronto will fill the gaps until the C-17's are crew trained and operational
about 2009. Stephen Priestly CASR DND101 is a great
believer in the Russian heavy lifters. I am not being critical just practical. We worked for several years to obtain TC Certification for Polish and Czech designed and built aircraft, a very frustrating experience. It was not the fault of Canadian TC, but the Polish and Czech Bureaucrats.

Posted by: Jack MacLeod | 2006-09-30 2:34:59 PM


wandalady:

Seeing as you're a toady for the French, you'd think you could at least use French properly:

VIVE LA LIBERTE.

You see, liberte is feminine. FYI.

Posted by: 'been around the block | 2006-09-30 2:52:57 PM


You forgot
Vive LA France!

Posted by: h2o273kk9 | 2006-09-30 3:06:16 PM


Ezra hates Lesbianese.

By the way, there are some really retarded people commenting on this blog.

Posted by: Lez-ra Levant | 2006-09-30 3:26:28 PM


Yawn.

Posted by: Set you free | 2006-09-30 3:29:46 PM


Double Yawn!

Posted by: h2o273kk9 | 2006-09-30 3:34:36 PM


Francophonie is PHONY period.Just another place to waste big bucks for no good reason.
France is so bold and brave and full of joi de vivre now but they wouldn't be chanting Vive la France if we hadn't rescued their asses in two world wars.
With Chretien in power it was follow the lead of Mere France.
Let's hope for a realistic approach from the Harper government.
The Commonwealth is as it's name implies.Francophonie does not compare.

Posted by: Liz J | 2006-09-30 3:42:56 PM


Thanks! been around the block (ooops.. I never could spell worth heck) haha

with love to all of the conservative intellects here today - thought you might need a little laugh, so how about some 'conservative humour'!?

http://www.workingforchange.com/webgraphics/WFC/TMW06-21-06.jpg

Posted by: wandalady | 2006-09-30 3:46:19 PM


Holy shit! Bulgaria is a French speaking country!
Calice! Last time I was there they were speaking..um...er.. Bulgarian!
Goddam, how things change. I'm just so happy I've been set straight. This internet thing is truly amazing.

Posted by: Ralph Rattfuc | 2006-09-30 3:58:36 PM


wandalady: Is that the best you can do?
If overboard works for you, go for it.
PS: we love you too. Ha,Ha,Ho,Ho,Hummmmmmmmzzzzzzzz.

Posted by: Liz J | 2006-09-30 3:59:35 PM


" thought you might need a little laugh, so how about some 'conservative humour'!?"

Geez Louise. I thought it was Leftist humour at the expense of conservatives. Not very compassionate if you ask me. Also, very stereotypical and bigoted.

Way to go, hypocrites!

Posted by: h2o273kk9 | 2006-09-30 4:19:20 PM


deepblue.

WHere in my comment did I "side with terrorists".

I side with no one.. the reality of the situation IS, Israel has no right to go after criminals in another sovereign nation.

End of Story.

There really is nothing to debate about it, and the fact that Ezra brought it up is just calling to another attempt to paint people as "Us vs. Them".

And the singling out of France is just a harking back to the "Freedom Fries" dies before the Iraq War... a true picture of maturity.

Ezra is utterly WRONG when he said the "UN is there to protect the terrorists from Israel".

They are there to seperate two fighting sides in a conflict. That's it.

Posted by: Chris | 2006-09-30 5:00:05 PM


h20273kk9 proves the point that right wingers can dish it out but they can't take it ... "Not very compassionate if you ask me. Also, very stereotypical and bigoted" - WOW! The truth hurts doesn't it?

The mental illnes of hatred displayed on this blog site day after day after day - is certifiable. I have read more hate here than anywhere else in the blogsphere - and you think that placing that cartoon here is 'not very compassionate'!!! Yet the editor of this blog lets people advocate dropping nuclear bombs in posts found on this site.

You better get thicker skin!

Posted by: wandalady | 2006-09-30 5:01:12 PM


"I side with no one.. the reality of the situation IS, Israel has no right to go after criminals in another sovereign nation."

Not taking sides here on France vs. Israel but I gotta ask

Does Israel have the right of "hot pursuit"?

Wikipedia:
Hot pursuit, a term in international treaty law (such as the Schengen Agreement) when law enforcement officers and agents of one country are allowed to cross the border into another country in a pursuit of a fleeing criminal.

I realize that Schengen doesn't directly apply here but there are other precedents, aren't there?

Besides, could not Hezbollah's action constitute war on behalf of Lebanon? In which case, Israel crossing the border to defend herself has plenty of precedent.

Posted by: h2o273kk9 | 2006-09-30 5:07:06 PM


h20273kk9 proves the point that right wingers can dish it out but they can't take it ... "Not very compassionate if you ask me. Also, very stereotypical and bigoted" - WOW! The truth hurts doesn't it?

Are you saying it was compassionate? Are you saying it wasn't stereotypical?

Aren't those the self-proclaimed monopoly of the left?

I indicated no where I couldn't take it. Nor have I advocated dropping nukes.

Are you projecting?

Posted by: h2o273kk9 | 2006-09-30 5:11:27 PM


Why or why can't right wingers read!!! Why oh why does a right winger ALWAYS assume everything is about them (me me me) - Go back and read what I said.

"Not very compassionate if you ask me. Also, very stereotypical and bigoted" "Nor have I advocated dropping nukes." Let's just call that 'guilt by association'.

This is the MOST hateful blog - anywhere- period.

Posted by: wandalady | 2006-09-30 5:26:39 PM


UNIFIL peacekeepers are human shields provided by the United Nations in order to protect Iranian interests in Lebanon, the Hezbollah forces.

Canada should not allow any more of its troops to become human shields in Lebanon, one death is too many.

Hezbollah should be completely destroyed.

Posted by: Philanthropist | 2006-09-30 5:28:06 PM


wandalady
"The mental illnes of hatred displayed on this blog site day after day after day - is certifiable. I have read more hate here than anywhere else in the blogsphere"

Trying reading more.

I suggest researching those who suffer from "BDS" and you will reach the "nirvana of hatred".

Good luck in your endeavour!

Posted by: h2o273kk9 | 2006-09-30 5:30:24 PM


"Not very compassionate if you ask me. Also, very stereotypical and bigoted" "Nor have I advocated dropping nukes." Let's just call that 'guilt by association'.

Are you now suggesting that because an editor allows people free expression AND some people express a desire to nuke somebody AND I deny that I have expressed this desire ... that somehow, I am guilty by association?

Hatred? Pot meet kettle.

Posted by: h2o273kk9 | 2006-09-30 5:33:37 PM


"Israel has no right to go after criminals in another sovereign nation.
End of Story.

There really is nothing to debate about it."

Your absolutely right, to debate someone as misguided and remiss of the facts as you, would take me, or anyone else down to your level of being an absolute and complete oblivious fool.

A title which I have no desire to wrest away from you.

Posted by: deepblue | 2006-09-30 5:42:43 PM


Hezbollah remains part of the fabric of Lebanon. It will not be destroyed unless the Government forces have the power and will to do so.
It was Hezbollah who started the war and ravaged Lebanon and Israel. The Lebanese government stood by powerless. CANADA TO THE RESCUE,with little thanks, much criticism and huge expense.
What has changed? The terrorists are taking a break to rearm and wait for the next attack? Who would know? Let them fight their own battles.
Thousands of those we rescued have already returned to Lebanon. Enough!

Posted by: Liz J | 2006-09-30 5:44:15 PM


wandalady said
"Why or why can't right wingers read!!! Why oh why does a right winger ALWAYS assume everything is about them (me me me) - Go back and read what I said. "

Since I am "guilty by association" I think that should explain why I thought it was about me!

Posted by: h2o273kk9 | 2006-09-30 5:47:29 PM


With love :)
http://www.workingforchange.com/webgraphics/WFC/TMW08-08-06.jpg

Posted by: wandalady | 2006-09-30 5:54:00 PM


"End of Story" brave Chris from Alberni said. Maybe he wants to start dialogue with Hezbollah following the example of the great NDP clown leader. After all why should he care? Israel is supported by America and therefore they are pretty much disposable. And they are also predominantly Jews. Double who cares. Lucky Israelis that they don't need to rely on the French/Canadian/Rest-of-the World political trolls. Keep cheerleadering, keep barking. Keep dreaming about the final victory of the Muslim lunatics.

Posted by: Sceptical Observer | 2006-09-30 5:56:20 PM


wandalady,
That's better. Thx for your understanding and good wishes.
Same to you.

Posted by: h2o273kk9 | 2006-09-30 6:10:04 PM


"Keep dreaming about the final victory of the Muslim lunatics." ??? I think it's past somebody's nap time... getting a little cranky.....a little over the top.....

Posted by: wandalady | 2006-09-30 6:18:59 PM


wandalady why don't you visit his blog.

Here is what he wrote:
I also disagree with her contention that the Muslim world “started it” in the Middle Ages.. at this point, it doesn’t matter who started what.. only that it is ongoing, and she understands that in order to resolve it once and for all all sides, but especially the Arab and Muslim worlds, must come to grips with have the courage to stand against those who would use their religion to commit senseless acts of violence that no other religion, in modern times, does on it’s own accord. (There’s a difference between an idiot President pulling the trigger and hoping that God Bless Him… and someone carrying out an act and calling it divine fate."
Divine fate he said. He is just another bloody terrorist cheerleader.

Posted by: Sceptical Observer | 2006-09-30 6:30:58 PM


im sorry wandalady but once i become the leader of our great nation and steal the cloak of liberalism from it you will understand and want to join the class of the right wing

Posted by: FuturePM | 2006-09-30 6:36:08 PM


"Hatred? Pot meet kettle."

Righties always spit little nuggets like these and think they're being brilliant.

It's a riot!

Posted by: Lez-ra Levant | 2006-09-30 7:19:49 PM


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