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Saturday, June 03, 2006
Canada is not immune to the threat of terrorismI feel happy and sick all at once. CSIS and the RCMP have arrested 12 male adults and 5 youths plotting acts of terrorism in Toronto. I'm happy because these guys have been caught. I'm sick because I think of how many more could have been out there. Cheif Bill Blair does not think the TTC was a target.
Three tons of ammonium nitrate were seized in the raids last night. To put it into perspective, the spokesman from the RCMP advised that only one ton was used to destroy the Murrah building in Oklahoma City.
The alleged terrorists are described as residents of Canada. We are told that for the most part they are citizens. For the most part. They were inspired by Al Qaeda, but not directly linked. I suppose it doesn't matter. The fact is that whether or not they are part of the mothership, there is a huge Islamic threat from all over. If they are not part of a group, they'll make their own. They want us dead.
CSIS has been telling us for years that Canada was under threat, and the politicos in charge would not do anything about it. It was laughed off. Canadians are too nice. People love us. If only we would get out of Afghanistan...
I know there will be an outcry from the anti-war crowd, the NDP, CAIR, and all the other usual suspects, but the fact of the matter is we need to gut the center of this. We need to destroy the camps and mosques and imams where this poison is coming from before we have a hope of cleaing up our own back yards. And that means Afghanistan. Iraq. Iran. Maybe Indonesia and Pakistan. Line 'em up, we'll knock 'em down. We need to.
If you live in Canada, and you are witness or privy to anything suspicious, please do not hesitate a moment to call the terroism tip line at 800-420-5805. Hesitation could cost you and your loved ones their lives.
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Tracked on 2006-06-07 11:07:35 AM
"I know there will be an outcry from the anti-war crowd, the NDP, CAIR, and all the other usual suspects..."
That they will, but not to praise the government for the crack down. Rather, they will condemn Harper (even though this started under the Liebrals) for violating the human and civil rights of the suspects. They'll even bring out Maher Arar to compare his experiences to the current affair.
What a country! Harper will, to his credit, ignore the critics and press on. Bless him for it. Damn the city of Toronto and the fascist state of Ontario for allowing this to happen.
Posted by: Scott | 2006-06-03 10:18:58 AM
Ok, let's not jump to any conclusions, this could be a gang of Progressive Conservatives intent on their scary, hidden agenda.
Does anyone recognise Fahim Ahmad, 21, Toronto; Zakaria Amara, 20, Mississauga, Ont.; Asad Ansari, 21, Mississauga; Shareef Abdelhaleen, 30, Mississauga; Qayyum Abdul Jamal, 43, Mississauga; Mohammed Dirie, 22, Kingston, Ont.; Yasim Abdi Mohamed, 24, Kingston; Jahmaal James, 23, Toronto; Amin Mohamed Durrani, 19, Toronto; Steven Vikash Chand alias Abdul Shakur, 25, Toronto; Ahmad Mustafa Ghany, 21, Mississauga; Saad Khalid, 19, of Eclipse Avenue, Mississauga.
Yup, it's the boys from the PMO, I knew it.
Posted by: neo | 2006-06-03 10:26:09 AM
Yeah...they're all from Ontario! Gee, who knew!
Now if they were from Alberta, Ontario would be laughing at us. Well now losers, this problem is all yours - AND ITS ALL YOUR FAULT!
Posted by: Scott | 2006-06-03 10:30:41 AM
So does this mean we can finally agree that our enemies are mostly brownish people who don't like to work regular jobs, drink coffee that's way too strong, don't have any standard Bb Canadian white friends and spend way too much time in a crouch of the floor chanting some weird shit five times a day in an unintelligable language?
And are these the same people who endlessly gawk at our sexy liberated women, but might just kill you for glancing at their women if only in wonder of what is actually in that big colored sack with eyes and feet?
And have a history of blowing things up all over the world? And who have contributed nothing to the betterment of humankind despite their large numbers.
And who are rushing into the world's western welfare states as fast as a Maritimer to a pub with a "Free Beer" sign?
And is is okay to say so now?
Posted by: John | 2006-06-03 10:33:25 AM
Great if they actually foiled a terrorist plot, but what is repulsive is that the arresting officers are effectively soldiers among us: high-tech equipment, soldier uniforms (in blue as that means they aren't soldiers), and fully automatic rifles. It's like the War Measures Act every day.
Canadians, of course, can't own fully automatic weapons anymore (even though Canada allowed the sale of unregistered fully automatic machine guns for 18 years longer than the US). More proof that the rule of law, like our liberty, is dead in so many areas.
Posted by: Robert Seymour | 2006-06-03 10:35:48 AM
I think I get it now!
The terrorists hate the 'West'
Ontario hates the 'West'
Terrorists operating in Ontario
West is west ... It all figures.
Posted by: John | 2006-06-03 10:41:43 AM
Now watch the white people of Ontario go on a rampage against anyone not white. Oh wait, they do that every day.
White Ontarians use something called "multiculturalism" as a form of self-denial about Ontario's racism. They delude themselves about how happy non-whites are to be in Ontario, but cannot understand it when they demonstrate the opposite through poverty-stricken dangerous neighborhoods, crime (especially gun violence), and labor unrest.
If there had been a terrorist act in Toronto, it would have been more than just an attack on a Western country. It would have been the ultimate protest against Ontario's establishment. Now they'll claim how violated they feel, and how Harper violated the civil rights of the suspects on the orders of *gasp* George W. Bush!!!
Posted by: Scott | 2006-06-03 10:43:52 AM
Is that humor, or are you actually serious?
If you're serious, what do think would be more appropriate, Super Soakers?
Posted by: Kevin | 2006-06-03 10:46:17 AM
For a Liebral to criticize the War Measures Act is the ultimate form of hypocrisy. They invoked it in 1970 to restore order in Quebec and to ease the fears of English-Canadian investors who owned property there, not the fight "terrorists" as the FLQ has been called. The FLQ lacked any resemblence of a political agenda aside from their catchy name. Instead it was a cover for their criminal activities.
Posted by: Scott | 2006-06-03 10:53:25 AM
Seymour said ...
"Great if they actually foiled a terrorist plot, but what is repulsive is that the arresting officers are effectively soldiers among us:"
John rewords it as it should read ...
Great if they actually foiled a terrorist plot, and what is REASSURING is that the arresting officers are effectively soldiers among us:
I suppose what Leftists reject most about freedom is the reponsibility part.
I suppose what they reject most about being frightened by the worst threat to freedom in the history of the world is the fighting back part.
Grow up man! We are in a war for our very survival.
Perhaps the police might be wise to let one of these groups succeed just so you can finally get the point.
What do you think? Good idea?
Anyone who is more concerned about what the police are wearing on the job than the virulant scum they are trying to protect us against, deserves to blow up.
Posted by: John | 2006-06-03 10:54:58 AM
The Presbyterians from Pukistan, living among us, have been plotting again. They must have been deprived children, born in out hospitals, educated in our schools, thoroughly subsidised by our taxes. My heart bleeds for them. If their lives are so bad, this is a chance to do something about it!Repatriate them.
Posted by: scarlet | 2006-06-03 11:43:33 AM
You're all idiots if you think I'm a Liberal or a leftist. My point is Canadians should be allowed to own fully automatic weapons if the state can.
That is part of the rule of law, the law applies equally to all either government agent or civilian.
Of course, I support the police foiling terrorist plots. My point is that the photo from the news story is a sorry reminder of the state of our freedom.
Posted by: Robert Seymour | 2006-06-03 12:23:53 PM
PS I think the proper role of police and government is protecting person and property -- that implies foiling terrorist plots. I am classical liberal or libertarian.
Just because I don't get down on my knees in front of US foreign policy, it doesn't make me a leftist. You're effectively all government worshipers as long as the government is conservative.
I'm not conservative, but I'm also not a socialist or leftist or Liberal.
Posted by: Robert Seymour | 2006-06-03 12:27:55 PM
"Line 'em up, we'll knock 'em down"
It's not a video game RightGirl, you dumbass.
Posted by: Justin | 2006-06-03 12:55:38 PM
Is no one disturbed by the out-and-out racist comments made by posters in this blog?
Posted by: himbly | 2006-06-03 1:34:31 PM
Sorry there Robert, Some of us are easily confused when faced with poor satire.
And remember, don't mix your metaphors and wash up before dinner.
Posted by: John | 2006-06-03 1:36:16 PM
himbly .... example of out and out racism please?
Posted by: John | 2006-06-03 1:37:38 PM
Allah would like to meet these good muslim fascists. We should not concede anything to these fascists normally, but in this one case an exception could be made just for them - Capital Punishment.
Posted by: infidel | 2006-06-03 1:42:11 PM
toronto star leftism
"A group of Canadian teenagers and young men in their 20s, accused by police of being members of a suspected homegrown terrorist cell, will appear in court this morning"
EXCUSE ME? Did they call the bombers of Canadian mailboxes in Montreal " Canadian homegrown teenagers"
I am sick and tired of the leftist politically correct speech that has been foisted on the publiuc by basically the entire press, media and scholastic community. And you can start with this word "terrorist" that never was used before in such a manner.
They don't want to "terroze" you or scare you " they want to kill you. If a White supremacist gang of murders bomb and murder kids at a Black church in the south, they would be accuratelydescribed as "White racist". EVERY single action of Islamofascists such as these i a RACIST action done for RACIST reasons, but I never , never , ever, heard or read them called as RACISTS.
Instead the PC left devises words such as militants, freedom fighters and TERRORISTS. But sometimes they refer to them strong as possible as Muslim fundamentalist". Which I guess means they are only following accepted Muslim doctrine like in their so- calledHoly Book the Koran? " There's a Jew hiding behind that tree , o Allah go kill him"--NOTHING RACIST ABOUT THAT??
But the KKK must also then be just a bunch of fundamentalists thinking Whites are superior. But I never heard the called that.
Margolis another lefty spoke on Foxnews today saying it was just Canadians against their governments involement in Afganistan and Iraq. Funny I dont think Canada is in Iraq? And killing innocent Ontarios is not the response to not liking the government.
AND these MUSLIMS FIRST are not Canadians. The liberals, Volpe, Caplan and Chretien let them overun the country and proadly said " we are a mosiac , come here and bring your culture with you" and scoffed at the idea of a melting pot.
These arrested MUSLIMS are just the tip of the iceberg in Canada.
Posted by: woodbridge | 2006-06-03 1:44:41 PM
your post 3-Jun-06 10:33:25 AM.
unless it is sarcasm that I've been too gobsmacked by other posters I've read to catch.
Posted by: himbly | 2006-06-03 1:44:57 PM
The great hope is a "quick" development of pluralistic (rights of minority) government in free democratic Iraq. I hope, hope, hope they get enough time to make that work (probably ten years would be real quick, but it is going to take a lot of prayers or raindances or whatever to get them even a few more months).
The Muslims are anti-abortion.
You can say that is because they are nut cases and like to subjugate their wives or beat and burn their daughters or all sorts of nasty stuff like that; or you can alternatively say that they have an understanding of the sanctity of innocent human life and love their families.
I prefer to take whatever slim evidences of goodness that can be derived from the limited observations that I'm able to make.
Also a notion of personal modesty can be the object of ridicule. But why?
The possibility that these (huge number) of very smart and aggressive people could become a terrific contributing force in the world is really a wonderful opportunity.
It is only (at least to my mind) possible if they can work through to a "secular" society in their own home countries which protects minority rights.
Whether Bush stumbled into this or was a wizard who just doesn't handle himself very well in conversation, we have a chance to see important progress toward solving the ethnic aspect of the problem of zealots' impotent attempts to influence society.
Posted by: Conrad-USA | 2006-06-03 1:47:55 PM
There are millions of excellent brownish people on this planet, the one's I have identified are the Muslim terrorists who want you and me dead.
In order to defeat your enemy you must first be willing to identify him and call him what he is.
Remember, one man's racist is another man's freedom or political correctness fighter.
Get over it ... we have enemies of different race, religion and ethnicity. They have no problem identifying us as The Great Satan's white trash, pig monkeys only fit to be murdered.
Got that ...
Posted by: John | 2006-06-03 1:54:52 PM
only way you win a war is when you try to smash the enemy's will and fighting wars with one arm tied behind ones back will never defeat them them
tere is a reason why osama has 30 brothers and sons and why an unemployed palestianian in a 1 room house has 20 children. they are trying to overun the world. hell they got most of southeast asia- do you think the people who were there prior just thought " oh yes mohammed in 800 was sent by god the arabs told us we should become muslims" or were they forced to or killed? same as now.
but we have the nuke power not them and must use it on one muslim city after another until they are dragged ito trhe 21st century like japan was --took 2 cities for them and gerrman cities bombed right where all the nazi supporters lived in their houses
only way this muslim war will be not lost
Posted by: woodbridge | 2006-06-03 1:57:25 PM
"Remember, one man's racist is another man's freedom or political correctness fighter"
was the nazi party or the kkk a freedom fighter?
Posted by: woodbridge | 2006-06-03 2:00:35 PM
ISLAM IS A THREAT TO OUR FREEDOM AND SECURITY.
The Koran incites Muslims to KILL and fight non-Muslims. No matter what race, white or not, ISLAM is the ENEMY. Their next move will probably be recruiting whites. As a matter of fact, there are already too many whites sucked into Islam!
Why are our politicans so weak towards oil rich countries?
Saudi Arabia bans Non-Mulsims from possessing any non-islamic religious books. Yet, we turn a blind eye to their human rights violations.
In Islamic countries, imams preach hatred & violence; Islamists discriminate, attack and kill non-muslims.
Enough is Enough. No more political correctness!
ISLAMIC migration to Canada must be restricted!
Posted by: fw | 2006-06-03 2:07:37 PM
Yes indeed RightGirl -- Canada is not immune to terrorist attacks. How could it be. The IslamoFascists are dedicated to taking over the world and making everyone worship Allah their way. We are quite simply incredibly fortuanate that the CSIS and RCMP etc aveerted a really nasty teoorsit attack.
Posted by: Ted Swart | 2006-06-03 2:12:22 PM
and another point on how left has controlled the use of words
nazi party is always still called a right wing party
they equate bush to the nazi party and anything the right says or does is twisted into race and the right is therefore racist but truth is goebells was 100% right about one thing in the media
"repeat a lie over and over enough times and it becomes the truth"
the nationalist socialist workers peoples party
NAZI PARTY sounds very socialist and LEFT WING to me AND LIKE THE LEFT ALWAYS HAS BEEN TO THIS DAY - VERY RACIST
Volkeswagen - the car of the folks- the people
Posted by: woodbridge | 2006-06-03 2:12:35 PM
Hate to trivialize this topic but while you think they look scary, or atleast "repulsive", I think they look quite beautiful. Esp. that lady officer. ;)
But if you are referring to the quite serious issue of the "militarization of the police", well that concerns me too. It is a sad state of affairs that trend is police forces are increasing operating with mindset of para-military institution rather than a civilian one.
God forbid, but if Canada sees the day when there are warantless knocks at the door, then it will the local police forces who will be crushing our freedoms.
However, the unfortunate truth is that police forces of major western cities need to be ready to take upon a para-military role, as it will fall upon them to keep law-and-order in the event of a disaster, natural or otherwise.
In an ideal situation, armed civilian would be entrusted work alongside police forces, or on their own to maintain order, as the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina showed us how easily the police can collapse.
So unless the majority of Canadians jump in a lake and drown, do not expect to see any law-abiding citizens with automatic (or semi-automatic for that matter) weapons.
Posted by: DonutHoles | 2006-06-03 2:16:39 PM
one more thing
this investigation started long before the conservatives got in power
do you think this club of worldwide islamofascists would have been detained last night if liberals were still in power?
note--most of the names came from one mississauga old CAROLYN PARRISH's electorate
Arrested and charged with offences under the Criminal Code of Canada are:
1. Fahim Ahmad, 21, of Robinstone Drive, Toronto, Ontario;
2. Zakaria Amara, 20, of Periwinkle Crescent, Mississauga, Ontario;
3. Asad Ansari, 21, of Rosehurst Drive, Mississauga, Ontario;
4. Shareef Abdelhaleen, 30, of Lowville Heights, Mississauga, Ontario;
5. Qayyum Abdul Jamal, 43, of Montevideo Road, Mississauga, Ontario;
6. Mohammed Dirie, 22, Kingston, Ontario;
7. Yasim Abdi Mohamed, 24, Kingston, Ontario;
8. Jahmaal James, 23, of Trudelle Street, Toronto, Ontario;
9. Amin Mohamed Durrani, 19, of Stonehill Court, Toronto, Ontario;
10. Steven Vikash Chand alias Abdul Shakur, 25, of Treverton Drive, Toronto, Ontario;
11. Ahmad Mustafa Ghany, 21, of Robin Drive, Mississauga, Ontario;
12. Saad Khalid, 19, of Eclipse Avenue, Mississauga, Ontario.
Posted by: woodbridge | 2006-06-03 2:17:57 PM
I am glad this is happening. This way, those bleeding hearts in this country can no longer lie and claim that this sort of thing is not happening in Canada. We must make our borders less porous, and as far as immigration from the Middle East and other Muslim countries is concerned, we have to either suspend it completely for the time being or subject applicants to even tougher and more stringent requirements and background checks (yes, tougher and more stringent than for applicants from other parts of the world. If this sounds like racial profiling, so be it. Time to pull the head out of the sand!).
Posted by: WP on Politics | 2006-06-03 2:20:58 PM
John, it's ALRIGHT to make these observations, because they are spot-on. Political correctness is a disease that has clouded people's minds (especially in Toronto, the bleeding heart pinko capital). They need a good shocker, an eye-opener. I, for one, am not ashamed to say that all those Muslims have no place in our midst. I'd take them all out with the garbage.
Posted by: WP on Politics | 2006-06-03 2:23:18 PM
We only have the Liberals to thank for all that crap. Paul Martin took bribes from the Tamil Tigers, and Chrétien wasn't clean on that front either. The Liberals have sold us out for votes and bribes. We are only reaping now what the Liberals have sowed, i.e., opening the borders to criminals and terrorists and admitting them in full violation of our immigration laws (how else can you explain it that Liberals admitted murderers and other violent criminals from, say, Jamaica, when the law says clearly that you cannot have any previous criminal convictions?).
Shame on the Liberals. If the day comes, and I hope it doesn't, when the CN Tower is toppled by some terrorists, I hope it falls on a bunch of Liberals.
Posted by: WP on Politics | 2006-06-03 2:29:51 PM
Thanks for getting me right DonutHoles.
Just a reminder that semi-automatics aren't illegal in Canada *yet*, but the Liberal and Mulrouney -- is there a difference? -- made them far too regulated.
Posted by: Robert Seymour | 2006-06-03 2:34:28 PM
This is a result of Canada being the world's immigration septic tank. It's mind-boggling that there are people out there who are vilifying Harper/CSIS/RCMP for arresting these terrorists.
Posted by: alex | 2006-06-03 2:40:18 PM
Alex, the left will always vilify anyone who arrests one of their own.
Has anyone else noticed how the left-wing in Canada (media and bloggers) has become more and more supportive, shall we say, of radical and fundamentalist Islamists and terrorists? CUPE's recent anti-Semitic boycott of Israel is only one of many examples.
Posted by: WP on Politics | 2006-06-03 2:45:20 PM
Personally, I have to laugh at the statements by police, repeated by the CBC: the suspects are "of various backgrounds"... with a "violent ideology inspired by al-Qaeda." If they bend over backwards any further to avoid calling them Muslims, they're going to fall flat on their backs! This is just silly.
All of the suspects are residents of Canada and most are Canadian citizens of various backgrounds, officials said.
"Our information is that they participated in training altogether," McDonell said.
"For various reasons, they appear to have become adherents of a violent ideology inspired by al-Qaeda," said Luc Portelance, Assistant Director of Operations for the Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS).
Posted by: Jeffrey | 2006-06-03 3:02:47 PM
It was interesting to see Tarak Fateh of the Muslim Canadian Congress this morning on Newsnet. He said that five years after 9/11, something isn't working ... I was encouraged because he seemed to imply that moderate Muslims have a responsibility to reclaim their religion, but then he invoked the name of W.
As if this attack wouldn't have been attempted if John Kerry won the White House.
It's vital that Muslims stop using Bush as a punching bag rather than taking a good hard look in the mirror.
Posted by: Road Hammer | 2006-06-03 3:03:11 PM
Folks, for us in the know about our Western History and Islamic History, these actions by Muslims are not surprising in the least....what is surprising thus far is that Muslims have not yet carried out a major terrorist attack on Canadian soil...
It is only a matter of time now....and if you want to be serious about fighting Islamic terrorism, you first have to stop ALL islamic immigration to Canada and to all Western Countries....and then you have to start deporting those that are literal orthodox followers of Islam....then you have to start spying on all Sunni/Shia mousques....and so on and so forth.....
And this is not going to start happening because we are deluded by moral relativism...by multiCULTurism and so forth...until we are hit by more then a few 9-11's perhaps Canadians and others will awaken to the FACT that not all creeds and cultures are equal and that we will have to banish Islam from our countries proper.....
Islam will never stop folks...never...you can try appeasing this dragon of old but it will keep attacking.....and frankly, I do not know if we will win....you combine Islam with the Left that enables it, we have a deadly and vile enemy to deal with...
Posted by: Albertanator | 2006-06-03 3:10:48 PM
Hear, hear, Albertanator, fully agree! Well said!
Posted by: WP on Politics | 2006-06-03 3:22:00 PM
Oh come on, we all know that the CIA planted the 3 tons of ammonium nitrate and the crude yet effective detonators. They were just set up by Harper so he could impress Bush. After all, did you really think the softwood lumber deal came so quickly out of Bush's "good will"? It's all a conspiracy folks.
The real terrorists are the cops and "persecutors" who will steamroll the human rights of these innocent immigrants in the name of corporate greed. They all act on behalf of Harper and Bush, pure and simple.
All this does is give Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaeda a good reason to attack Canada in earnest. I suppose that if Canada withdrew its soldiers from Afghanistan and the Middle East there MAY be a chance of redemption. We won't know until they attack again.
Yeah, riiiiight. Why does this crap sound good coming out of the mouth of the mad left?
Out of curiosity, I wonder what targets they had in mind. With three tons of ammonia nitrate, they could have made 3 1 ton bombs, each placed in a Ryder truck. Maybe (repeat, MAYBE) one for the US Consulate-General in downtown Toronto; another for the corner of Yonge and Bloor during the daytime to cause massive casualties; and a third for Toronto City Hall. That would definitely get some attention.
But one problem: David Miller is NOT EVEN CLOSE to a Rudy Giuliani. So it's good that the authorities stopped them before they could strike. There is no way Toronto people could have coped with the disruption. Look at what they did during the transit "strike" last week!
Posted by: Scott | 2006-06-03 3:55:23 PM
I was thinking of the US Consulate as well. It is very unprotected and open. And unfortunately, it is surrounded by most of Toronto's hospitals.
Posted by: RightGirl | 2006-06-03 4:06:52 PM
The problem with the term racism today is that it is applied to liberally. No pun intended.
If you say anything at all that identifies anyone of any race other than white anglo (preferrably male christian) of anything at all .. you are racist.
I have news ... it's is human nature to be racist it is how tribes survived to become cultures then nations.
If you want you particular culture/nation to survive it will require a bit of what you may call racism ... it's sort of like Rooting for the home team. Some may even call it patriotism.
Got that? it's okay to like who an what you are and to not necessarily like 'other' especially when 'other' wants you dead.
And puleeez stop using the KKK and Nazi analogy, it's worn out and tired and has little to do with what we are facing today.
Posted by: John | 2006-06-03 4:10:55 PM
The best part about breaking the terror ring is that if the attacks had been carried out, there may have been sympathy for the people of Toronto. After 9/11, the whole world rallied around New York. Something similar happened after the 7/7 bombings in London, and the 3/11 bombings in Madrid.
The idea of giving sympathy to those stupid Ontarians is too much for this Albertan to bear. Years of arrogance and greed, proven by voting Liebral and NDP, have turned Canada into a soft target for terrorists to strike. Ontario's need for cheap unskilled immigrant (read: slave) labor has turned their society into a new form of Apartheid. Worse, they use "multiculturalism" to delude themselves into a false sense of toleration. One Caribbana festival per year will not erase 364 days of low-paying jobs fit only for non-whites!
Their "Not in My Back Yard" attitude has made them arrogant and lazy - well more than usual. They actually blame others for their social problems - like Mayor Idiot's blaming of "lax US gun laws" for Toronto's new reputation for being a shooting gallery. If their mayor's incompetence and stupidity didn't wake them up, nothing will - not even these suspected terrorists.
They supported 9/11 - praising the deaths of 3000 innocent people. They still deny the Holocaust and the deaths of more than 6 million innocent people. Heck, they still say that the Nazis were innocent victims of the Allies. Will their insanity ever end? If the terrorists had attacked, they would have blamed someone else for their actions. So why should I feel sympathy for Toronto? IT'S ALL THEIR FAULT!
Posted by: Scott | 2006-06-03 4:32:33 PM
Scott, chill, wouldja? There are normal people here in Toronto - they just happen to be a minority.
Posted by: RightGirl | 2006-06-03 4:46:13 PM
A very tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny minority!
Posted by: WP on Politics | 2006-06-03 4:51:04 PM
There is no reason on earth to get ethnic or racial about this stuff.
Muslims' religion has heavy duty flaws and is not "uplifting" at all (except by stepping on the other guy), at least to my limited knowledge of it. It cannot flourish in freedom.
But their problem is rotten corrupt leadership of "haves" versus "have nots" which works swimmingly well when you have a climate of total stark terror or fear and retribution as your crazy social setting.
We (in free countries) must over throw our rotten Liberal-Communists and throw them to hell out of our countries - back to Russia, or where ever they like it so well.
The Arabs - Muslims who are here, sure as hell wanted to get OUT and AWAY from the terror.
The culture of fear and the oppression of the group over the individual is the culprit in our free nations. These Muslim people need to have successful models and fight through all of the issues in a protected democratic free government situation in their own countries.
Then the dumb frustrations of stupid and hateful Muslims living within our own free societies won't have to feel like such feeble ineffectual pioneers or oddballs here in our free countries versus what would be happening in their old country culture.
This battle is worth the fight.
If we had Summertime County Fairs with booths and prizes for "Pissed Off" I'd win gold ribbons all over the place, but we can't be fools and shortsighted when we have a chance to move the world forward to greater peace and prosperity and stability. The nut case Muslim Terrorists are not nearly the impossible problem or danger that Liberals-Communists have always been. The Muslims are just mainly traditional society folks holding to religious orthodoxy while confronting modern society presented as materialistic atheism.
The Liberals-Communists are materialist atheists who desire to have the same total fear based control as the manipulative Muslim fanatics.
We free peoples must help provide the traditional Muslim societies with time and guidance in bridging to a free democratic government (with protections for minorities) model.
Posted by: Conrad-USA | 2006-06-03 4:52:14 PM
Definition of a Racist:
Someone who has just won an arguement with a Liberal.
These devote Muslin detainees have been demanding that the Ontario authorities provide them with Korans.
A witty poster on LGF said:
#15 mbruce 6/3/2006 03:18PM PDT
NO, I think you boys have had a little too much Koran.
Time for some Mad magazine and Hulk comics.
Posted by: Speller | 2006-06-03 5:33:31 PM
I think that giving them copies of the Koran would be like giving a suspected arsonist a book of matches and a gallon of gas. The Koran appears to be what started this in the first place. It doesn't make sense to provide the means once again.
Incidentally, wouldn't these people have the Koran memorized anyway? So why bother!
They should be grateful that they receive oxygen while in jail.
Posted by: Scott | 2006-06-03 5:37:30 PM
This is what years of "bleeding heart" leftists in gov't has wrought us.
It is not the "quantity" or immigrants, it is the "quality" of immigrants.
Under the Liberals, this country has let in low lifes and turned their backs on alot of ones who would have been contributors.
Screw the racist and such label. If people want to beleive in Political correctness, rather than truth this is what you get.
How many Catholics, Jews or Protestants do you see ramming jet liners into sky scrapers?
Posted by: notasocialist | 2006-06-03 5:40:02 PM
How many Catholics or Protestants did you see blowing up pubs and bars in the 80s? How many Christians did you see burning witches or Jews in the Middle Ages? How many anti-choice extremists have shot and killed pro-choice doctors? Had you forgotten that white people sometimes blow things up too? I'd wager that every single religion you can name has some history of extremist violence.
Posted by: Voice of Reason | 2006-06-03 6:02:02 PM
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