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Thursday, May 05, 2005

If you don't like it, ignore it

[originally posted to Daimnation!]

Our Liberal masters plan to ignore a Conservative-sponsored non-confidence amendment even if it passes:

The Conservatives won a battle Thursday in their effort to force a non-confidence vote against the Liberal minority government, but it appears they could yet lose the war.

Minutes after the Tories won the right to proceed with an amendment later this month calling on the government to resign, the Liberals said they will simply ignore the call.

By tradition, the government must step down if it loses a vote on a money bill, such as the federal budget, but it's not clear if the Tory amendment falls under that category.

The Speaker of the House of Commons ruled Thursday that the amendment, to a finance committee bill, was in order. That appeared to clear the way for a vote on the matter in about two weeks.

The Tories hold that if they win the vote, it requires the government to resign and call an election.

Not so fast, said government House leader Tony Valeri. He said the Liberals will refuse to recognize the amendment as a confidence motion and keep governing.

I think there's going to be another King-Byng Affair before this is all over.

Posted by Damian Penny on May 5, 2005 in Canadian Politics | Permalink

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Posted by: Anon. | 2005-05-05 5:47:14 PM


They'll probably be able to get away with this as long as they bring forth the budget for a vote. Their previous desire to hold off any vote of non-confidence for as long as possible would have been problematic. This way, they can claim they're testing the confidence of the House anyways. Just on their terms.

Besides, it looks like they might get all three independents on side. They might survive any vote of confidence no matter when it's held.

Posted by: The Cyber Menace | 2005-05-05 6:09:11 PM


First they take away the CPC opposition day, then they plan to ignore a non-confidence amendment. Ruling like you have a majority is one thing, ruling like your a dictatorship is where we are heading.

Posted by: qwerty | 2005-05-05 6:16:43 PM


There is precedent for forcing dissolution by force in British history.

On 20, April, 1653, Oliver Cromwell, at the head of an armed troop of soldiers, swords drawn, entered Parliament and dissolved by force the "Rump Parliament".

Cromwell: "You have sat too long here for any good you have been doing. Depart, I say, and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go."


Martin: Resign. Now. In the name of God, go.

Long live freedom and democracy.

Posted by: maz2 | 2005-05-05 7:14:14 PM


Sorry maz2, but a military coup sets a very bad precedent.

If they do it once, the temptation to do it again will exist forever. Freedom and democracy will be ruined forever - even more so than Ontario's greed.

On the other hand, the Feds will use the military to achieve purely political ends, such as occupying Alberta some day soon, or shoveling snow in Toronto.

The best solution: disband the military, destroy all their weapons, and renounce war and weapons forever.

Posted by: Scott | 2005-05-05 7:35:30 PM


In the British House of Commons, 7 May, 1940, Leo Amery to Neville Chamberlain:

"You have sat too long here for any good you have been doing.Depart, I say, and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go." Cromwell, 20 April, 1653, to the "Rump Parliament".

Winston S. Churchill became Prime Minister . The rest is history.

Chamberlain: hero of the appeasers, pacifists, leftist/Liberals/Labour/Socialists & etc. Chamberlain: "Peace in our time."

Martin: Resign. Now. In the name of God, go.


Long live freedom and democracy.


Posted by: maz2 | 2005-05-05 7:53:41 PM


Power at any cost, even sacrificing democracy to achieve that aim. The Librano's motto "Power for the sake of power (and the Power Corp)."

Posted by: Bob Wood | 2005-05-05 8:09:39 PM


Liberals claiming that a non-confidence vote doesn't require a visit to the GG? This would be the gift that never stopped giving.

Go Valeri! If only they were as stupid as they are corrupt.

Posted by: Terry Gain | 2005-05-05 9:06:46 PM


Oh Bananada!

The conservatives are wasting their time comparing Dithers to the Sopranos, this country is way beyond that, we are now into Zimbabwe territory and Paul Mar-gubwe.

When will he close down all media that does not project Lieberal-PF party thinking?

Posted by: Cascadian | 2005-05-05 11:54:25 PM


Over at http://www.smalldeadanimals.com


Go to Bananada : Not Just Another Catchy Slogan.


Read comments: Outrage, calls for Librano resignation, demonstrations, etc.


Over at www.andrewcoyne.com

Andrew asks whether an orange demonstration on Parliament, Hill, Ottawa, is required to force the Librano/Martin government to resign.


Is there a crisis in government in Canada?

Long live freedom and democracy!

Posted by: maz2 | 2005-05-06 5:56:52 AM


Robert McClelland

Several weeks ago I assigned you the task of investigating how much of that 2 billion dollars of Gun Registry money was doled out to Liberal ad agencies. In addition you were to report on:
1.what did we receive in return?
2.how much over market price were they paid? and
3.what was kicked back to the NGP?

When will your report be ready?

Posted by: Terry Gain | 2005-05-06 10:51:47 AM



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